v Elche CF - 25/07/25- Pre-Season friendly

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

8 hours ago, philipl said:

Cantwell was undoubtedly the most gifted player on either side in the Elche game 

Why cant I warm to this player?

Noticed he walked off the pitch on his own after going to the fans.

[Tomphil2]

8 hours ago, ObiWhan8t7 said:

Burning off that lazy tag with recent performances. In Great shape and looks more hungry to do well. Need to get him more of the ball. He has the quality to unlock teams, just find he doesn’t have that natural 10 awareness to be in those dangerous positions. In the holes, breaking the lines, Be doesn’t find them frequent enough

Big season for Cantwell because he'll need a new club this time next year so i expect a good season from him and hopefully he can stay fit.

[rigger]

8 minutes ago, SIMON GARNERS 194 said:

Why cant I warm to this player?

Noticed he walked off the pitch on his own after going to the fans.

Maybe he is a bit of an arse.

[BankEnd Rover]

3 minutes ago, SIMON GARNERS 194 said:

Why cant I warm to this player?

Noticed he walked off the pitch on his own after going to the fans.

I know what you mean. If you watch him on the pitch he doesn't half moan when things don't go his way. I imagine he can be quite difficult to work with as a result. 
I actually think, he thinks he's better than he is, which don't get me wrong he does show patches of class - He's definitely regressed as he's got older. 
 

I really enjoy watching him though, and still think he'll play a huge part this season. I was worried how he'd react to Val knowing what type of character he is but looking at TC in pre season, he looks good! If he was just a tad quicker then he would be unstoppable...He runs like he's 10 stone heavier. 

[rigger]

1 minute ago, Tomphil2 said:

Big season for Cantwell because he'll need a new club this time next year so i expect a good season from him and hopefully he can stay fit.

Or a new contract ?

[BankEnd Rover]

1 minute ago, Tomphil2 said:

Big season for Cantwell because he'll need a new club this time next year so i expect a good season from him and hopefully he can stay fit.

Yep, this will definitely be his last season for us, especially if he chips in a few more G/A...He'll move abroad next, La Liga or MLS.

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

57 minutes ago, Lancaster Rover said:

So De Neve is essentially Owen Beck

Er no. 

As others have pointed out, he has a good engine and can get up and down but we haven't seen him do anything to worry the opposite full back or any crunching defensive tackles. 

With him and Hedges on the other side we may negate other team's threat out wide but there will be minimal goals/assists coming from either.  

[Tomphil2]

25 minutes ago, rigger said:

Or a new contract ?

Too early on a Saturday for that kind of comedy.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

1 hour ago, Lancaster Rover said:

So De Neve is essentially Owen Beck

But Beck could tackle. We don’t know with De Neve.

[Tomphil2]

28 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

Yep, this will definitely be his last season for us, especially if he chips in a few more G/A...He'll move abroad next, La Liga or MLS.

I'm thinking Saudi maybe.

Probably not relevant but the agency he is with doesn't have one other UK based player on their books as far as i can see.

[rigger]

5 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said:

I'm thinking Saudi maybe.

Probably not relevant but the agency he is with doesn't have one other UK based player on their books as far as i can see.

He really is "Billy no mates".

[alexanders]

2 hours ago, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

Er no. 

As others have pointed out, he has a good engine and can get up and down but we haven't seen him do anything to worry the opposite full back or any crunching defensive tackles. 

With him and Hedges on the other side we may negate other team's threat out wide but there will be minimal goals/assists coming from either.  

De Neve has already scored in pre season, against Beck. 

[M_B]

1 hour ago, alexanders said:

De Neve has already scored in pre season, against Beck. 

We're not talking about actually scoring goals though 😁

[steelcityblue]

Didn’t find the game dull as per RF99. Was a good test in draining heat. Took Rovers a while to work themselves into the game as Elche were good in possession. But despite that Rovers kept any chances to a minimum and gradually worked themselves into the game and carried more threat then Elche after the first 30 mins. So a good interesting test. There will be teams that have a lot more of the ball than us in the championship and we looked organised out of possession.  Wharton pinged some good long range passes and would be my first choice LCB right now. Be interesting if he can find Kargbo consistently with balls over the top…don’t think they’ve played much together  in preseason.  Toth definite number 1.  Brittain hasn’t downed tools. Hyam more obviously vocal in a quieter stadium (surprised me that).  Personal preference for Pickering over Rebeiro.  Can take a set piece (and Cantwell’s were generally disappointing).  Travstad combo busy and effective. Hedges often an outlet and kept  things moving but not enough output as per. May be more iMprotant to VI in front of the new RB who clearly likes to bomb on.   De Neve really got up and down but more Labore than Arte. Kargbo seriously quick but a bit untidy with the ball. Had a good shout for a penalty from where I was sitting.  Ohashi had some nice touches but Geuye looked a more effective striker up against those centre backs.  He needs to look after his arms when jumping though. Will pick up a few more yellows if not.  Impressed with the turnout from fans. Good effort and good friendly atmosphere. Respect to the players for coming over for selfies etc after the game with a few freebies for kids in the crowd  An all round good experience.  

 

[RoversClitheroe]

3 hours ago, rigger said:

Or a new contract ?

I hope not, don't understand the hype

[rigger]

5 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said:

I hope not, don't understand the hype

That is your fault not his.

[RoversClitheroe]

1 minute ago, rigger said:

That is your fault not his.

You think he's decent?

[lraC]

8 minutes ago, steelcityblue said:

Didn’t find the game dull as per RF99. Was a good test in draining heat. Took Rovers a while to work themselves into the game as Elche were good in possession. But despite that Rovers kept any chances to a minimum and gradually worked themselves into the game and carried more threat then Elche after the first 30 mins. So a good interesting test. There will be teams that have a lot more of the ball than us in the championship and we looked organised out of possession.  Wharton pinged some good long range passes and would be my first choice LCB right now. Be interesting if he can find Kargbo consistently with balls over the top…don’t think they’ve played much together  in preseason.  Toth definite number 1.  Brittain hasn’t downed tools. Hyam more obviously vocal in a quieter stadium (surprised me that).  Personal preference for Pickering over Rebeiro.  Can take a set piece (and Cantwell’s were generally disappointing).  Travstad combo busy and effective. Hedges often an outlet and kept  things moving but not enough output as per. May be more iMprotant to VI in front of the new RB who clearly likes to bomb on.   De Neve really got up and down but more Labore than Arte. Kargbo seriously quick but a bit untidy with the ball. Had a good shout for a penalty from where I was sitting.  Ohashi had some nice touches but Geuye looked a more effective striker up against those centre backs.  He needs to look after his arms when jumping though. Will pick up a few more yellows if not.  Impressed with the turnout from fans. Good effort and good friendly atmosphere. Respect to the players for coming over for selfies etc after the game with a few freebies for kids in the crowd  An all round good experience.  

 

I agree. It definitely wasn’t a dull game. Perhaps it being a friendly dulled the excitement for a few, but I found it to be a good contest.

I spoke to a few Elche fans, who fancy themselves to give a decent account of themselves, in La Liga, so they will be a decent side.

I might go and watch them a bit this coming season, especially if Dolan makes an appearance there. 

[lraC]

I find it quite incredible that someone think Britain has downed tools. He put plenty of effort into the game, including a crunching tackle, right in front of me.

[RoversClitheroe]

1 minute ago, lraC said:

I find it quite incredible that someone think Britain has downed tools. He put plenty of effort into the game, including a crunching tackle, right in front of me.

Agreed.

Found it odd some prick videoed himself asking Brittain when he's off to Boro.

Not sure if it was a Rovers fan or some sad Boro fan travelled all that way to say that

[rigger]

5 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said:

You think he's decent?

Yes I do think Cantwell is a decent player.

[Exiled_Rover]

6 hours ago, SIMON GARNERS 194 said:

Why cant I warm to this player?

Noticed he walked off the pitch on his own after going to the fans.

Are you one of these people that also support Rangers / Celtic too? They couldn't warm to him either. 

[Exiled_Rover]

6 hours ago, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

Er no. 

As others have pointed out, he has a good engine and can get up and down but we haven't seen him do anything to worry the opposite full back or any crunching defensive tackles. 

With him and Hedges on the other side we may negate other team's threat out wide but there will be minimal goals/assists coming from either.  

We didn't see Beck worry the opposite full back much either to be fair. 

[Exiled_Rover]

2 hours ago, steelcityblue said:

Didn’t find the game dull as per RF99. Was a good test in draining heat. Took Rovers a while to work themselves into the game as Elche were good in possession. But despite that Rovers kept any chances to a minimum and gradually worked themselves into the game and carried more threat then Elche after the first 30 mins. So a good interesting test. There will be teams that have a lot more of the ball than us in the championship and we looked organised out of possession.  Wharton pinged some good long range passes and would be my first choice LCB right now. Be interesting if he can find Kargbo consistently with balls over the top…don’t think they’ve played much together  in preseason.  Toth definite number 1.  Brittain hasn’t downed tools. Hyam more obviously vocal in a quieter stadium (surprised me that).  Personal preference for Pickering over Rebeiro.  Can take a set piece (and Cantwell’s were generally disappointing).  Travstad combo busy and effective. Hedges often an outlet and kept  things moving but not enough output as per. May be more iMprotant to VI in front of the new RB who clearly likes to bomb on.   De Neve really got up and down but more Labore than Arte. Kargbo seriously quick but a bit untidy with the ball. Had a good shout for a penalty from where I was sitting.  Ohashi had some nice touches but Geuye looked a more effective striker up against those centre backs.  He needs to look after his arms when jumping though. Will pick up a few more yellows if not.  Impressed with the turnout from fans. Good effort and good friendly atmosphere. Respect to the players for coming over for selfies etc after the game with a few freebies for kids in the crowd  An all round good experience.  

 

I must be the only one that thinks Wharton is incredibly clumsy on the ball - to the extent where I'd be calling for a DNA test to prove he's Adam's brother. 

I have kittens when he's passing the ball along the line at the back. 

[LeftWinger]

7 hours ago, SIMON GARNERS 194 said:

Why cant I warm to this player?

Noticed he walked off the pitch on his own after going to the fans.

I took the kids to get autographs after the Wolves game last season. All signed autographs and had pictures with fans...apart from Cantwell. He was carrying his child, which definitely seemed like a deliberate ploy to avoid interacting with supporters.