2025-26 Relegation thread

[RevidgeBlue]

1 hour ago, MarkBRFC said:

Looks like we'll be out of the relegation zone for the next week at least.

Nope.

And still waiting in vain for this "We usually seem to pull out a win when we really need it" type victory.

(Although I appreciate you've changed your mind and now only think we'll beat Wednesday 🙂 )

[davulsukur]

Leicester have sacked their manager.

[StHelensRover]

We've been averaging roughly 1 point per game 28 played, 29 pts).

If we continue on that run we'll get 46-48 points.

Some seasons that's enough to stay up, some seasons it isn't.

Our squad is getting gradually worse as the season progresses, morale is (presumably) getting lower and lower, I think it's 50/50 whether we survive. Two home wins only so far, if we only win another two home games before the end of the season, we're going down. 

Edit - we need to get to 50 points, that is usually enough. We need 21 points from 18 games, so 7 wins or 6 wins and a few draws? 

Edited 21 hours ago by StHelensRover

[wilsdenrover]

Returning to our points per game of the first 14 matches gets us to 51 points

Maintaining our points per game from the last 14 matches gets us to 44 points.

 

[Hasta]

It’s that run in after Easter I don’t like the look of.
 

I know this league pulls out unexpected results, which we have really highlighted this year, but I can’t help thinking we are squandering the fixtures in which I expect us to garner points.

Edited 16 hours ago by Hasta

[DE.]

4 hours ago, StHelensRover said:

We've been averaging roughly 1 point per game 28 played, 29 pts).

If we continue on that run we'll get 46-48 points.

Some seasons that's enough to stay up, some seasons it isn't.

Our squad is getting gradually worse as the season progresses, morale is (presumably) getting lower and lower, I think it's 50/50 whether we survive. Two home wins only so far, if we only win another two home games before the end of the season, we're going down. 

Edit - we need to get to 50 points, that is usually enough. We need 21 points from 18 games, so 7 wins or 6 wins and a few draws? 

The loudest alarm going off for me is the fact we haven't seen able to beat any of the teams around us. As far as I can remember we have dropped points to every single team from 16th downwards, even Sheffield Wednesday. Granted some of those were draws, but still, I think the signs are extremely ominous if we are not able to prove ourselves superior to a single one of the teams we're battling out with on an individual basis. With how tight the league is this year, it's entirely plausible that as the season ends there will still be a ton of teams competing for a top six spot - which means less likelihood of teams being 'on the beach' or resting players for upcoming playoff games. 

[RossendaleBlue3]

The whole "18 games to play, 54 points still to play for", really loses its gravitas when in the last 18 games we've played, we've only picked up 22 points

Forgive me for being cynical Val

[lraC]

4 hours ago, RossendaleBlue3 said:

The whole "18 games to play, 54 points still to play for", really loses its gravitas when in the last 18 games we've played, we've only picked up 22 points

Forgive me for being cynical Val

That return, would probably keep us up, but I can’t see us picking up even that many.

The next 2 at home could be crucial, but I can’t see us picking up even a point on Saturday, so the Sheff Weds game, then becomes high pressure.

[TimmyJimmy]

If anyone has access to an AI tool I'd be grateful if you could get this answered for me. Of the managers sacked this season how many of their clubs had more or less points than Rovers at that date (complicated because Wednesday had a points deduction).

My gut says that we're hanging on to VI well after other clubs fire their managers.

I have a bet with the wife!

This might help:

Danny Rohl (Sheffield Wednesday)
Departed: 29th July, 2025 

Ruben Selles (Sheffield United)
Departed: 14th September, 2025 

Paulo Pezzolano (Watford)
Departed: 8th October, 2025 

Will Still (Southampton)
Departed: 2nd November, 2025 

Liam Manning (Norwich City)
Departed: 8th November, 2025 

Alan Sheehan (Swansea City)
Departed: 11th November, 2025 

Marti Cifuentes (Leicester City)
Departed: 25th January, 2025

[JHRover]

15 minutes ago, TimmyJimmy said:

If anyone has access to an AI tool I'd be grateful if you could get this answered for me. Of the managers sacked this season how many of their clubs had more or less points than Rovers at that date (complicated because Wednesday had a points deduction).

My gut says that we're hanging on to VI well after other clubs fire their managers.

I have a bet with the wife!

This might help:

Danny Rohl (Sheffield Wednesday)
Departed: 29th July, 2025 

Ruben Selles (Sheffield United)
Departed: 14th September, 2025 

Paulo Pezzolano (Watford)
Departed: 8th October, 2025 

Will Still (Southampton)
Departed: 2nd November, 2025 

Liam Manning (Norwich City)
Departed: 8th November, 2025 

Alan Sheehan (Swansea City)
Departed: 11th November, 2025 

Marti Cifuentes (Leicester City)
Departed: 25th January, 2025

Interesting that all of those clubs (Sheff Wed being exceptional case and Leicester too early to judge) have noticeably improved since making changes. 

[frosty]

30 minutes ago, TimmyJimmy said:

If anyone has access to an AI tool I'd be grateful if you could get this answered for me. Of the managers sacked this season how many of their clubs had more or less points than Rovers at that date (complicated because Wednesday had a points deduction).

My gut says that we're hanging on to VI well after other clubs fire their managers.

I have a bet with the wife!

This might help:

Danny Rohl (Sheffield Wednesday)
Departed: 29th July, 2025 

Ruben Selles (Sheffield United)
Departed: 14th September, 2025 

Paulo Pezzolano (Watford)
Departed: 8th October, 2025 

Will Still (Southampton)
Departed: 2nd November, 2025 

Liam Manning (Norwich City)
Departed: 8th November, 2025 

Alan Sheehan (Swansea City)
Departed: 11th November, 2025 

Marti Cifuentes (Leicester City)
Departed: 25th January, 2025

This is a good site for things like that - https://www.11v11.com/league-tables/. Enter any date and select the Championship and it'll show you how the table stood at the end of that day.

[LeftWinger]

1 hour ago, TimmyJimmy said:

If anyone has access to an AI tool I'd be grateful if you could get this answered for me. Of the managers sacked this season how many of their clubs had more or less points than Rovers at that date (complicated because Wednesday had a points deduction).

My gut says that we're hanging on to VI well after other clubs fire their managers.

I have a bet with the wife!

This might help:

Danny Rohl (Sheffield Wednesday)
Departed: 29th July, 2025 

Ruben Selles (Sheffield United)
Departed: 14th September, 2025 

Paulo Pezzolano (Watford)
Departed: 8th October, 2025 

Will Still (Southampton)
Departed: 2nd November, 2025 

Liam Manning (Norwich City)
Departed: 8th November, 2025 

Alan Sheehan (Swansea City)
Departed: 11th November, 2025 

Marti Cifuentes (Leicester City)
Departed: 25th January, 2025

I think it's only Leicester that probably had more points than us when they sacked their manager.

[TimmyJimmy]

Thanks chaps and to Frosty in particular (very handy site that).

I was interested in what the league as a whole defines as a firing level of incompetence and how VI compares.

These were the points when Championship managers were fired compared to us at the same time.

Watford had 5 more points yet they still fired Pezzolano

Swansea had 1 more Yet they still fired Sheehan

Leicester have 11 more than us now and they fire Cifuentes

Southampton had 1 less than us when they fired Still, so virtually level pegging

Norwich had 7 less than us, so Manning deserved it!

 

Seems we don't hold our manager to the same level scrutiny. Other boards look to have more of an idea as to how to manage a club - especially when you see they are all ahead of us now.

[Herbie6590]

5 minutes ago, TimmyJimmy said:

Thanks chaps and to Frosty in particular (very handy site that).

I was interested in what the league as a whole defines as a firing level of incompetence and how VI compares.

These were the points when Championship managers were fired compared to us at the same time.

Watford had 5 more points yet they still fired Pezzolano

Swansea had 1 more Yet they still fired Sheehan

Leicester have 11 more than us now and they fire Cifuentes

Southampton had 1 less than us when they fired Still, so virtually level pegging

Norwich had 7 less than us, so Manning deserved it!

 

Seems we don't hold our manager to the same level scrutiny. Other boards look to have more of an idea as to how to manage a club - especially when you see they are all ahead of us now.

Ismael signed up for the project.

If they change him then Suhail & Rudy have to indoctrinate a new guy…too much like hard work that, so keep the current guy.