Hasta Posted yesterday at 12:39 Posted yesterday at 12:39 Moussa Baradji. Looks like he could be a good player. And yet something tells me he won't be here next year. We were reported as agreeing a loan with an "option-to-buy" However he signed for Yverdon sport in June 2024 on a two year contract. His contract runs out with them on June 2026. Therefore he is a free agent in the summer. Yverdon cannot "sell him" at any point except this window. This implies that the option to buy only is really relevant during this window. In the summer he can go wherever he likes. Am I missing anything? 2 Quote
Backroom DE. Posted yesterday at 12:39 Backroom Posted yesterday at 12:39 34 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said: Probably in hiding after crowing about what a brilliant job Gestede and co did in the summer. Certainly an interesting thread. Unfortunately none of my questions on how Eustace was allowed to supposedly become a one man wrecking crew during his tenure were answered. 1 Quote
MarkBRFC Posted yesterday at 12:45 Posted yesterday at 12:45 4 minutes ago, Hasta said: Moussa Baradji. Looks like he could be a good player. And yet something tells me he won't be here next year. We were reported as agreeing a loan with an "option-to-buy" However he signed for Yverdon sport in June 2024 on a two year contract. His contract runs out with them on June 2026. Therefore he is a free agent in the summer. Yverdon cannot "sell him" at any point except this window. This implies that the option to buy only is really relevant during this window. In the summer he can go wherever he likes. Am I missing anything? I'm pretty sure he signed a new one year contract with them to 2027 just before he joined us on loan, to protect his parent club in case it didn't work out here so they could still get a fee for him in the summer. 3 Quote
roversfan99 Posted yesterday at 12:47 Posted yesterday at 12:47 1 hour ago, RoversClitheroe said: I think Brereton was a really bad footballer. Benefitted from a change in name as well as confidence from such an amazing story. Seems however he has gone back to the pre Diaz era Certainly has his flaws and has struggled to find a home in the last year or 2. Had a good loan spell at Sheff United. But he clearly isnt a "really bad footballer." He scored something like 35 goals across his last 2 seasons here. Still would be a massive upgrade on what we have now. 2 Quote
MarkBRFC Posted yesterday at 12:48 Posted yesterday at 12:48 7 minutes ago, DE. said: Certainly an interesting thread. Unfortunately none of my questions on how Eustace was allowed to supposedly become a one man wrecking crew during his tenure were answered. Because it was all made up. Also said Ismael was a fantastic appointment. Made me think, who really is this chap? 1 Quote
Hasta Posted yesterday at 12:49 Posted yesterday at 12:49 (edited) 3 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said: I'm pretty sure he signed a new one year contract with them to 2027 just before he joined us on loan, to protect his parent club in case it didn't work out here so they could still get a fee for him in the summer. That's not reported on their social media feeds (which reports other contract signs), nor can I find any other source saying anything. Edited yesterday at 12:49 by Hasta Quote
Torgeir Posted yesterday at 12:50 Posted yesterday at 12:50 2 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said: Because it was all made up. Also said Ismael was a fantastic appointment. Made me think, who really is this chap? David Lowe? Quote
MarkBRFC Posted yesterday at 12:53 Posted yesterday at 12:53 2 minutes ago, Hasta said: That's not reported on their social media feeds (which reports other contract signs), nor can I find any other source saying anything. You are correct, there is very little information if anything about it. I remember seeing this at the time... 3 Quote
Hasta Posted yesterday at 13:06 Posted yesterday at 13:06 (edited) That seems to have been pinched from here, but it would make sense. My gut feeling is people will make more money from him being elsewhere, so he will end up elsewhere. Edited yesterday at 13:08 by Hasta Quote
MarkBRFC Posted yesterday at 13:10 Posted yesterday at 13:10 (edited) If we went down I imagine he would be off elsewhere anyway. Would be nice to get him permanent in this window but I don't see it happening. Edited yesterday at 13:10 by MarkBRFC 2 Quote
KentExile Posted yesterday at 13:21 Posted yesterday at 13:21 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Hasta said: That seems to have been pinched from here, but it would make sense. My gut feeling is people will make more money from him being elsewhere, so he will end up elsewhere. If he continues to impress then he will sign for Rovers (for the contractually agreed fee at the contractually agreed wage & terms). He will then immediately by sold on at profit 2 lots of signing on fees, lots of money for middle men etc Nobody benefits from him not signing. The real question is, if he rips up trees between now and the end of the season, will he be with us for a matter of days, or just hours, before he ends up elsewhere Edited yesterday at 13:30 by KentExile 2 Quote
TheKitGuy Posted yesterday at 13:25 Posted yesterday at 13:25 On 30/12/2025 at 09:51, TheKitGuy said: Genuinely who will come to us? Say we need a striker - any in the top half of league one will probably look at us and think no chance. So then we look to the lower league one sides which then begs the question are they any good? Get a prem loan in - lightweight, no relegation battle experience recipe for disaster. Do you look at the SPL? SPL is on the up and most strikers will not move to a relegation threatened champ team. Abroad? no one from any of the top 6 leagues. Okay we will go further abroad eastern Europe perhaps? or a rogue hidden gem? Have been tracking a few that could work, in the fact they can absolutely hit the target. Aljosa Matko - Ujpest (Hungarian top flight sit 8th out of 12) has 11 goals in 18. 62 in last 4 seasons. Brayan Muniz - Indepente Medillin (Colombian top flight side) 29 goals in last 2 years. Bissoli - Buriram United (Thai premier league usually top or there abouts) 64 goals in last 2 years. Stefan Sigurdsson - Sandefjord (5th in Norway top flight last year so missed out on Europe I believe) 15 in 27 I think this is quite relevant still. we need to unearth something - we have zero chance of getting anyone decent from the UK we need goalscoring talent and fast - these players are in form and can score goals. Take a punt, show some creativity. Quote
MarkBRFC Posted yesterday at 13:29 Posted yesterday at 13:29 2 minutes ago, TheKitGuy said: I think this is quite relevant still. we need to unearth something - we have zero chance of getting anyone decent from the UK we need goalscoring talent and fast - these players are in form and can score goals. Take a punt, show some creativity. Money talks. If we can offer better wages than a players current club in league one(probably doubtful with some these days though) then they would be here like a shot. Quote
TheKitGuy Posted yesterday at 13:31 Posted yesterday at 13:31 Just now, MarkBRFC said: Money talks. If we can offer better wages than a players current club in league one(probably doubtful with some these days though) then they would be here like a shot. But like i say, we need a player from the top half of L1 - Would they want to fight relegation and if we want them i'm sure a club in the championship who can offer more will want them too. Hence why we need to look further afield imo. 1 Quote
Hasta Posted yesterday at 13:31 Posted yesterday at 13:31 (edited) 9 minutes ago, KentExile said: If he continues to impress then he will sign for Rovers (for the contractually agreed fee at the contractually agreed wage & terms). He will then immediately by sold on at profit 2 lots of signing on fees, lots of money for middle men etc Nobody benefits from him not signing. The real question is, if he rips up trees between now and the end of the season, will he be with us for a matter of days, or just hours, before he is elsewhere Let's see. 👀 Edited yesterday at 13:31 by Hasta Quote
Kjell Posted yesterday at 13:36 Posted yesterday at 13:36 42 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said: Because it was all made up. Also said Ismael was a fantastic appointment. Made me think, who really is this chap? There were some 'ideas' put in circulation that Gestede was the good guy and Eustace the bad and ungrateful one, and I seem to remember that the triumvirate behind them was Nixon, Unleaded, and the mysterious X account of BrfcPrivy (and to be precise, the latter only indicating that Gestede is a good guy). And just to be clear, I do not mean to indicate that they represent any Holy Trinity-constellation. 3 Quote
Browjd Posted yesterday at 13:37 Posted yesterday at 13:37 As per every year....where has all the money gone?! Quote
KentExile Posted yesterday at 13:38 Posted yesterday at 13:38 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Browjd said: As per every year....where has all the money gone?! Edited yesterday at 13:39 by KentExile 1 Quote
MarkBRFC Posted yesterday at 13:40 Posted yesterday at 13:40 (edited) 10 minutes ago, TheKitGuy said: But like i say, we need a player from the top half of L1 - Would they want to fight relegation and if we want them i'm sure a club in the championship who can offer more will want them too. Hence why we need to look further afield imo. Completely agree, if anyone else is interested we have no chance. If somehow we stumbled on a decent top half league one player that nobody else wanted though, if we offered him more cash than he was currently being paid, I believe they would be here like a shot. Guaranteed half a season playing at a higher level on more money, then if you do well you can be sold again in the summer, or you stay playing at the level you were playing at anyway on a better wage. Edited yesterday at 13:41 by MarkBRFC 2 Quote
bluebruce Posted yesterday at 13:52 Posted yesterday at 13:52 29 minutes ago, KentExile said: If he continues to impress then he will sign for Rovers (for the contractually agreed fee at the contractually agreed wage & terms). He will then immediately by sold on at profit 2 lots of signing on fees, lots of money for middle men etc Nobody benefits from him not signing. The real question is, if he rips up trees between now and the end of the season, will he be with us for a matter of days, or just hours, before he ends up elsewhere I'm not sure these deals are always done with the player's contract already settled and obliged to kick in at the buying club's will. I'm sure I've heard about players in these sorts of arrangements deciding not to go. Quote
lraC Posted yesterday at 13:53 Posted yesterday at 13:53 12 minutes ago, Browjd said: As per every year....where has all the money gone?! There seems to be a phantom £20m required in excess of the funds we receive from the gate receipts, TV money and corporate funds generated. When I met up with Waggott back in November 2023 he stated it was £40m needed and the spit was £20m generated and £20m from the owners. So far as I know, this figure is still ball park, but reduced by the amount generated from sales and the name of the game for Pasha and his mates, seems to be to bring this down to as close to 0 as possible. Quote
KentExile Posted yesterday at 14:01 Posted yesterday at 14:01 (edited) 17 minutes ago, bluebruce said: I'm not sure these deals are always done with the player's contract already settled and obliged to kick in at the buying club's will. I'm sure I've heard about players in these sorts of arrangements deciding not to go. I have seen arrangements where the club have decided against triggering the buy option I have seen arrangements where players have asked the club not to trigger the option. This has typically been when the player was only on loan because he had fallen out with his manager at his parent club and either than manager had been sacked (or if one or the other club have been promoted/relegated) meaning a change in circumstance I have seen arrangements such as I have described where another club offering more becomes involved, and they player has been "flipped". I cannot recall any instances where because of this, the player did not move to the initial loan club on a permanent deal first, before then being sold on Look at the Harvey Elliott situation at Villa, because of the contractual situation, Villa cannot play him, otherwise the purchase becomes automatic, which includes the wage. It has to, otherwise Villa would not worry about triggering it, as Elliott would tell them he doesn't want to move, and everyone (apart from Liverpool) would be happy That seems garbled on my part, hope it makes sense Edited yesterday at 14:10 by KentExile Quote
JHRover Posted yesterday at 14:20 Posted yesterday at 14:20 26 minutes ago, lraC said: There seems to be a phantom £20m required in excess of the funds we receive from the gate receipts, TV money and corporate funds generated. When I met up with Waggott back in November 2023 he stated it was £40m needed and the spit was £20m generated and £20m from the owners. So far as I know, this figure is still ball park, but reduced by the amount generated from sales and the name of the game for Pasha and his mates, seems to be to bring this down to as close to 0 as possible. They're not doing a very good job of it then because they continue to say £20 million+ a year is needed even after all the steps they have taken over the last 4 years and massive cost cuts. Maybe time the owners entrusted their cost cutting to people who actually know what they are doing? Quote
wilsdenrover Posted yesterday at 14:28 Posted yesterday at 14:28 33 minutes ago, bluebruce said: I'm not sure these deals are always done with the player's contract already settled and obliged to kick in at the buying club's will. I'm sure I've heard about players in these sorts of arrangements deciding not to go. I don’t know if it’s the same for international loans (I can’t find anything either way in FIFA regs) but for domestic ones this is certainly the case. 1 1 Quote
SuperBrfc Posted yesterday at 14:33 Posted yesterday at 14:33 (edited) 13 minutes ago, JHRover said: They're not doing a very good job of it then because they continue to say £20 million+ a year is needed even after all the steps they have taken over the last 4 years and massive cost cuts. Maybe time the owners entrusted their cost cutting to people who actually know what they are doing? It came to light last year I think it was, that Pasha is on a salary of £500k a year. He's been here for 10 years, officially. Even if he was on lower than that in the years 2015-2023, he has still accumulated millions by way of salary in over a decade. If we still need around £20m a year from the owners after all these years, as the hierarchy keep alluding to, what is he doing exactly in his role that keeps the owners satisfied with him being their man here? Edited yesterday at 14:34 by SuperBrfc 4 Quote
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