RevidgeBlue Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 9 minutes ago, Elrovers said: If you are correct, then fairs, but if you are wrong don’t post this bs again. No - one seems to mind anyone else posting BS at this time of year. In fact we're frequently urged not to frighten them away! 1 Quote
alcd Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 1 hour ago, KentExile said: Surely not? 😉 Utter waste of money. 7 Quote
bluebruce Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 2 hours ago, Mercer said: Further update. Deal is now close and it's a forward. Will happen either tonight or tomorrow. From Brockhall. Go on I'll bite. If it comes true then personally I'll think there was some substance to it this time, but looking at other posts you'll still have doubters. So to allay that, care to throw any more meat on the bone? Nationality, initials, what league they're from, something like that? Quote
Mercer Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, Theaxe15 said: He’ll only be correct through the fact everyone knows we want a forward and that sooner or later we’ll probably sign one (of questionable quality) so it’s a fairly obvious guess to make. And then he’ll dine out on it for years allowing him to peddle more absolute tripe How sad you are. 1 hour ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: So your initial post says a new signing processed/unveiled at brockhall today then your update says a deal is close……..which is it a done deal as initially suggested or not? Talk about splitting hairs! A deal is done when the contracts are signed. My initial post said "supposed to have been", my second post said "deal is now close" (ie close to completion, contracts signed etc). Is that so difficult to understand? Well I will not "peddle more absolute tripe" (as some on here think) as I simply do not need the aggravation. Edited 11 hours ago by Mercer Quote
roverandout Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago Why waste money on a bang average player like Gardner-hickman when we desperately need it for a striker Quote
bluebruce Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 8 hours ago, Mercer said: Think the tone for this window is well and truly set. Any budget surplus from the summer window will not be spent. I think this window there will be a net trading surplus on player trading. Will be no surprise to see either Toth or Alebiosu, or even both, sold. Our target market will be desperados, loans that cost almost feck all (as Cashin) and cheap unproven imports from Europe. Now you're saying we have a striker about to sign, have you changed your mind on all this from 8 hours ago? Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 2 minutes ago, roverandout said: Why waste money on a bang average player like Gardner-hickman when we desperately need it for a striker Tbf - think that was an old story that was dug up for illustrative purposes and hopefully his wages will put paid to any move. 1 Quote
Mercer Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago (edited) 8 hours ago, Mercer said: Think the tone for this window is well and truly set. Any budget surplus from the summer window will not be spent. I think this window there will be a net trading surplus on player trading. Will be no surprise to see either Toth or Alebiosu, or even both, sold. Our target market will be desperados, loans that cost almost feck all (as Cashin) and cheap unproven imports from Europe. 8 minutes ago, bluebruce said: Now you're saying we have a striker about to sign, have you changed your mind on all this from 8 hours ago? "I think this window there will be a net trading surplus on player trading" - what do you think this means? It simply means we will sell players for more money than we spend on new signings! It DOES NOT mean we WILL NOT sign any new players! Are we clear now? Edited 10 hours ago by Mercer 1 Quote
bluebruce Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 3 hours ago, CaptainBeanfart said: Likely will contain the "option for a further year" clause that all contracts seem to have now, and it won't activate until the summer. So realistically, including this loan, it could be a four year deal. If it includes an extra year, it would essentially be a three and a half year deal, as I assume we are talking 2 years from the pending summer. Which is more palatable, though I'd still say it should be a three year with an option, which is a max 4 and a half year deal. The first part of the loan really doesn't count. He was injured for the majority of it, and not yet our player. Signing him now is more like how renewing a contract would work in terms of the deal length you'd offer, you wouldn't be thinking about their previous time of service, you go from the point of the new contract kicking in, which is now. And you wouldn't give a 2.5 year deal to a player with his profile unless your hand was forced. As I say, 3.5 including an option is more agreeable and no longer ridiculous, but not what I'd have done. Quote
bluebruce Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago Just now, Mercer said: "I think this window there will be a net trading surplus on player trading" - what do you think this means? It simply means we will see players for money money than we spend on new signings! It DOES NOT mean we WILL NOT sign any new players! Are we clear now? Calm down, I wasn't giving you shit. I was just asking if you still believed that, or if the info you're saying you heard has changed your mind on that. 1 Quote
rigger Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 15 hours ago, bluebruce said: It is strange that Gueye was kept around when the manager clearly doesn't rate him whatsoever and we had an Arab club looking to buy him for, I assume, more than we got for Leonard. If the manager didn't rate either, at least Leonard was young enough to have the potential to improve. I find it really hard to imagine that Leonard wouldn't have been getting some game time recently (even without his apparent improvement this season) whilst Gueye has been nowhere to be seen. I guess the reasons are that Gueye wasn't as out of favour with the manager at that time, as he was given some minutes earlier in the season, during which Ismael has clearly decided he has had enough. Well, between that and the alleged lack of application during training which I think meant he wasn't selected as a point of principle more than anything. In hindsight, we definitely should have sold Gueye and kept Leonard. But if you look at last season, Gueye contributed more than Leonard did so I can see why the decision was made how it was at the time. It has turned out to be the wrong one though. Not for the first time. 1 Quote
Ossydave Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 6 hours ago, roverandout said: Why waste money on a bang average player like Gardner-hickman when we desperately need it for a striker Because he'll be Tronstad's replacement more than likely.....which we do need, but he's absolutely nowhere near the same standard, so essentially just another example of running the club into the ground. Don't get me wrong, GH is a steady squad player, but if he's one of the first names on the team sheet it highlights a rather large problem, again. 4 Quote
rigger Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 11 hours ago, philipl said: Papa switched sports to being a horse? It would have to be a donkey-derby. Quote
Ossydave Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 10 hours ago, Mercer said: Further update. Deal is now close and it's a forward. Will happen either tonight or tomorrow. From Brockhall. Look it's obvious you're just hedging your bets to try and make out you're ITK. Every man and his dog knows we need forwards and it's almost certain we'll get at least one (whether they're any good or not remains to be seen). As I say law of averages dictates you'll get lucky one day and get one right, but up to now its still never happened. Odd behaviour. Quote
RoversXtra Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 11 hours ago, TugaysMarlboro said: Roversxtra is now a poster on here aren't they? Maybe they can explain their understanding of the deal. I was under the impression that everything had effectively been agreed before the loan. I think it's trying to say that they're negotiating his contract terms and stuff. Not the price cause that's fixed or it could be negotiating how we spread out the bonuses and what for. This is just my opinion cause it's my tweet but not my report so I can't 100% be sure Quote
RoversXtra Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 10 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said: Is there a slight difference between the 2 posts in that on the Baradji one, Rover Xtra is claiming it as his/her own story (ditto the Cashin one) whereas with the TGH one he/she is simply regurgitating a rumour from someone else? Wdym. I've put the source as to where I got the TGH and Baradji news from. None of that is mine. It's clearly stated. Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 8 hours ago, Mercer said: How sad you are. Talk about splitting hairs! A deal is done when the contracts are signed. My initial post said "supposed to have been", my second post said "deal is now close" (ie close to completion, contracts signed etc). Is that so difficult to understand? Well I will not "peddle more absolute tripe" (as some on here think) as I simply do not need the aggravation. Supposed to have been processed and unveiled to pretty much 99% of readers would mean the deal was done - processed means all actions have been taken the second post then says close meaning the first post/source was wrong as nothing has been processed ready to unveil is that so difficult to understand? 1 Quote
Bohinen1983 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Love a juicy rumour, that's what it's all about. Keep them coming guys! 3 Quote
Theaxe15 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 9 hours ago, Mercer said: How sad you are. Talk about splitting hairs! A deal is done when the contracts are signed. My initial post said "supposed to have been", my second post said "deal is now close" (ie close to completion, contracts signed etc). Is that so difficult to understand? Well I will not "peddle more absolute tripe" (as some on here think) as I simply do not need the aggravation. Sadder than a grown adult who constantly posts information he knows he’s made up just to seem like he’s got a bit of inside info? Quote
wilsdenrover Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 52 minutes ago, RoversXtra said: I think it's trying to say that they're negotiating his contract terms and stuff. Not the price cause that's fixed or it could be negotiating how we spread out the bonuses and what for. This is just my opinion cause it's my tweet but not my report so I can't 100% be sure Not shooting the messenger but all terms (inc the player’s contract) have to be agreed as part of a loan having an option to buy. A club doesn’t have to trigger the option but if they do the player can’t ’back out’. Edited 1 hour ago by wilsdenrover 3 Quote
RoyWegerlesLeftToe Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 5 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said: Not shooting the messenger but all terms (inc the player’s contract) have to be agreed as part of a loan having an option to buy. A club doesn’t have to trigger the option but if they do the player can’t ’back out’. We're probably trying to renegotiate knowing us. You know we said we'd pay £1.5m, how about 3 chickens and free access to our state of the art swimming pool? 4 Quote
roverblue Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago If people want to share or start rumours then I am absolutely fine with it. It feels hopeless being a rovers fan and at least the thought of turning up to see someone new brings some of the hope back. 1 Quote
47er Posted 27 minutes ago Posted 27 minutes ago There's a lot of bickering at the moment. Isn't there enough division between our fans? I don't mind the odd rumour--- distracts me from the reality. You don't have to believe it do you? 1 Quote
davulsukur Posted 26 minutes ago Posted 26 minutes ago We desperately need someone through the door, so lets hope Mercer is right! Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted 20 minutes ago Posted 20 minutes ago 6 minutes ago, 47er said: There's a lot of bickering at the moment. Isn't there enough division between our fans? I don't mind the odd rumour--- distracts me from the reality. You don't have to believe it do you? Iv no real issue with the rumour it’s just the two ‘updates’ contradict one and other so was asking about that Quote
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