v Charlton Athletic (h) - 4/1/26

[GHD]

9 minutes ago, KentExile said:

and that would cause players to actively protest against decisions wrongly given in their favour too (even if their was no intent to mislead the referee)

I don’t think it would! Because the decisions to deduct points would be made retrospectively by a panel

Edited 17 hours ago by GHD

[KentExile]

10 minutes ago, GHD said:

I don’t think it would! Because the decisions would be made retrospectively by a panel

exactly,

 

so if a decision was wrongly given in someone's favour (eg a penalty for a dive/non contact) could mean a retrospective loss of any points gained + a points deduction on top (as you suggested)

 

What do we think the players would start doing if a decision is wrongly awarded?  The retrospective penally for keeping quiet and hoping they got away with it would be worse than the penalty for saying "no ref, it wasn't a penalty I just fell"

 

Edited 17 hours ago by KentExile

[roversfan99]

1 hour ago, M_B said:

Nyambe suffered from a similar thing,not saying you're doing the same, but if you call out the negatives but fail to point out the positives, you've automatically got yourself a poor player.

Miller suffers from being signed under the Gestede regime. To a lot of people, he's shite until he proves them wrong, and boy do they not want to be proved wrong.

I've read countless times on here, "I'll forgive them most things if they give it their all". That obviously doesn't apply to Miller, because there's nobody tries harder.

As I've said before, he's no Franco Baresi, but he leaves nothing out there, and I for one think he deserves a wee bit of slack. 

The idea that Miller suffers from being signed by Gestede is utter rubbish. Alebiosu was signed by him and has only ever been praised. Gudjohnsen is seen as a good signing.

The reason that many of his signings get criticism isnt because he signed them, its because they are crap. (Not specifically Miller here)

Merely trying hard doesnt make him exempt from criticism. Although the ball at the second time of asking for our second was a very good one.

51 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I think having 2 attacking players in Cantwell and Baradji behind Ohashi was a big improvement compare to the last 2 games. 

Think Miller and Pickering did ok as wing backs. De Neve gives 110% whilst defensive not convincing. Think Miller did ok today but its a role he plays at International football. 

Tho I can understand your point on the formation tho. 

I thought Tyjon should have come on instead of Henriksson tho

Miller is clearly not a wing back. Him playing there for Australia against crap teams doesnt disprove that.

Pickering certainly isnt a left wing back either. Lacks the mobility and energy. We badly need a new left wing back. Maybe 2.

[Mike E]

3 hours ago, Hasta said:

It’s stupid to say our squad has regressed from last season. Says Val

 

He goes on to say “"This is stupid analysis. We didn't lose any quality (in the squad) we reduced the age”

Bullshit. Says I.

So he may just be a cheap, yes man to Pasha and Gestede’s plan, but when you come out with quotes like that don’t be surprised if people turn on you. At least you always thought Eustace and JDT wanted to drive the club forward.

If the quality of the squad isn’t less, then he’s admitting he’s a shit manager.

[chaddyrovers]

2 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Miller is clearly not a wing back. Him playing there for Australia against crap teams doesnt disprove that.

Pickering certainly isnt a left wing back either. Lacks the mobility and energy. We badly need a new left wing back. Maybe 2.

yiu told me similar thing over the last couple of days so why keep posting the same thing. You have your opinion and I have mine. we don't agree, so just leave it there 

[philipl]

After two horrendous no energy performances we dramatically improved to mediocre but at least we ran around with purpose. Highlights were two nicely taken goals by Baradji plus none of the youngsters embarrassed themselves. Atchison looked very decent again.

Ref was his usual garbage self. We probably should have had a penalty looking at it from a different angle to the one the ref saw it from and equally a different angle camera shows Pickering avoiding contact for the penalty that was given. 

Another one for Ismael's long list.

At least we didn't lose which was the most important requirement of the day.

[KentExile]

12 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

The idea that Miller suffers from being signed by Gestede is utter rubbish. Alebiosu was signed by him and has only ever been praised. Gudjohnsen is seen as a good signing.

The reason that many of his signings get criticism isnt because he signed them, its because they are crap. (Not specifically Miller here)

Merely trying hard doesnt make him exempt from criticism. Although the ball at the second time of asking for our second was a very good one.

Miller is clearly not a wing back. Him playing there for Australia against crap teams doesnt disprove that.

Pickering certainly isnt a left wing back either. Lacks the mobility and energy. We badly need a new left wing back. Maybe 2.

Exactly

 

What someone in power at the club needs to decide is, is it wing backs or wingers going forwards, and then  recruit 2 of either, one on each side (left and right)

At the moment (given injures etc) we have none of both positions, on each side.  I can be persuaded that a fit Hedges is adequate on the left as either wing back or winger, but he is not fit, and is unlikely to be until his contract expires.  I can likewise be convinced that Pickering, Ribeiro & Miller are ok full back options, but they are not wing backs.  Alebiosu, obviously when he returns is perfectly fine on the right as either a full back or wing back

I don't care who... Ismael, Gestede, Pasha, (lol), Adam Owen, but someone needs to make a decision and put their neck on the block

Edited 4 hours ago by KentExile

[roversfan99]

2 minutes ago, KentExile said:

Exactly

 

What someone in power at the club needs to decide is, is it wing backs or wingers going forwards, and then  recruit 2 of either, one on each side (left and right)

At the moment (given injures etc) we have none of both positions, on each side

Exactly this. We are so weak down the sides.

If we go full backs then we are well covered there but need a totally new set of wingers. 

But if we decide to stick to wing backs then at a bare minimum in this window we need a starting left sider and some competition for Alebiosu.

Pickering was so blatantly in a position that doesnt suit him. Miller is also clearly better suited as a right centre back, if he is to start which is a different debate altogether.

[rigger]

2 hours ago, bluebruce said:

That was the initial fear, but he is expected to only be out a couple of weeks. He is staying with the Nigeria squad so they clearly think he could still play for them before he comes back.

Let's hope the Nigerian medical team sort out his problem, before our lot get their hands on him.

[Torgeir]

42 minutes ago, GHD said:

If they deducted 1 point + any gained by cheating, the managers would stop it at the first training session

They’ll implement VAR sooner or later in the Championship as well. 

[KentExile]

4 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Exactly this. We are so weak down the sides.

If we go full backs then we are well covered there but need a totally new set of wingers. 

But if we decide to stick to wing backs then at a bare minimum in this window we need a starting left sider and some competition for Alebiosu.

Pickering was so blatantly in a position that doesnt suit him. Miller is also clearly better suited as a right centre back, if he is to start which is a different debate altogether.

just eddied my last response as you typed this, almost word for word the same as your post

Edited 17 hours ago by KentExile

[GHD]

29 minutes ago, KentExile said:

exactly,

 

so if a decision was wrongly given in someone's favour (eg a penalty for a dive/non contact) could mean a retrospective loss of any points gained + a points deduction on top (as you suggested)

 

What do we think the players would start doing if a decision is wrongly awarded?  The retrospective penally for keeping quiet and hoping they got away with it would be worse than the penalty for saying "no ref, it wasn't a penalty I just fell"

 

With respect. I think you’re missing the point

[KentExile]

 

15 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Exactly this. We are so weak down the sides.

If we go full backs then we are well covered there but need a totally new set of wingers. 

But if we decide to stick to wing backs then at a bare minimum in this window we need a starting left sider and some competition for Alebiosu.

Pickering was so blatantly in a position that doesnt suit him. Miller is also clearly better suited as a right centre back, if he is to start which is a different debate altogether.

My personal preference if we are keeping wing backs is Alebiosu + 1 on the right,  and 1 + Powell on he left, or if we are going back to a back 4 and wingers, then 2 new first choice wingers need to be brought in, Powell could be a bench option in this case

Recruiting 2 wing backs is probably cheaper than 2 wingers if that makes any difference

Edited 17 hours ago by KentExile

[rigger]

42 minutes ago, Athlete said:

Two absolute desperate teams both IMHO living in hope there are two worse sides to keep em up

Game of two halves which TBH draw was fair enough

You need three worse teams to stay up.

[roversfan99]

1 minute ago, KentExile said:

 

My personal preference if we are keeping wing backs is Alebiosu + 1 on the right,  and 1 + Powell on he left, or if we are going back to a back 4 and wingers, then 2 new first choice wingers need to be brought in

I think we would need at least 3 wingers.

I would be fine sticking with the back 3 though so a couple of wing backs, a couple of strikers and a right footed centre back. And not just cheap squad fillers.

[KentExile]

10 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

I think we would need at least 3 wingers.

I would be fine sticking with the back 3 though so a couple of wing backs, a couple of strikers and a right footed centre back. And not just cheap squad fillers.

Needs must (given pressing needs up front), I could accept Powell as a 3rd winger if we were to move back to a back 4, as in this scenario, Pickering & Ribeiro should have left back sorted between them

Would definitely need 2 first choice wingers in this case though, which would obviously be more expensive than cover for Alebiosu at right wing back, and a new first choice left wing back should we keep the wing backs

Edited 17 hours ago by KentExile

[philipl]

Incidentally I expect Toth tips the header over rather than let it rebound for a tap in as Pears did. Hopefully Toth is back in the FA Cup at Hull then keeps his place.

[Manymiles]

You won’t know me but Ive been a member of BRFCS for many years. Not a poster but an avid reader who enjoys the views of others.

Thought some would like to know why I got ejected from the ground today in the nicest possible way 😃.
 

My routine is to go from the riverside to BBE with 10 mins to go to sometime celebrate a late winner 🤷‍♂️. Deluded I know!  
 

Entered BBE today as usual. Came out of BBE toilets and steward was waiting and told me I had been seen on cameras re-entering the ground and I had to leave. After “discussion” the jobsworth called the head steward.  The Head Steward was very pleasant and candid. He explained the club have changed their policy and won’t allow re-entry because some supporters have brought Pasha Out banners into the ground!  My conversation with the Head Steward was amicable and so I followed his rules but said I would take this further. In my experience in grounds around the country over many years people have been allowed in for free once the gates are open.  This was an event I have a season ticket for! 

 I don’t have any agenda in sharing this but disappointingly it does reinforce what other’s have said about the thin skinned nature of our clubs current culture 😱.  I can understand our club wanting to prevent confrontation but once they had established I wasn’t interested in confrontation it’s surprising that common sense didn’t apply. 🤷‍♂️ 

What a sad position we’ve got to 😱🤷‍♂️.

 

ps now thinking about the smokers who have to leave the ground at HT for a cig.  Will they now prevented from re-entry? 😱. I don’t think so. 

Edited 15 hours ago by Manymiles

[Athlete]

50 minutes ago, rigger said:

You need three worse teams to stay up.

Sheff wed gone so two

[Gamst]

15 minutes ago, philipl said:

Incidentally I expect Toth tips the header over rather than let it rebound for a tap in as Pears did. Hopefully Toth is back in the FA Cup at Hull then keeps his place.

I really cannot fathom why Pears was in goal today. 

[Roverthechimp]

Anyone else for benching Cantwell?

My dislike for him is growing and though it is clear that he is a decent footballer he frustrates the fuck out of as he should dictating games more or at least look to make things happen ala Baradji.

Or is my dislike for him totally distorting my judgement?

[roversfan99]

13 minutes ago, Roverthechimp said:

Anyone else for benching Cantwell?

My dislike for him is growing and though it is clear that he is a decent footballer he frustrates the fuck out of as he should dictating games more or at least look to make things happen ala Baradji.

Or is my dislike for him totally distorting my judgement?

Bench for who?

He was crap v Wrexham but much better today. He also did make something happen for the first with an excellent cross.

[Tomphil2]

19 minutes ago, Gamst said:

I really cannot fathom why Pears was in goal today. 

Lets hope there isn't another Kaminsky situation brewing.

[Roverthechimp]

20 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Bench for who?

He was crap v Wrexham but much better today. He also did make something happen for the first with an excellent cross.

Fair comment.
As said - personal dislike can colour the view too much. Think he has a lot of ability but doesn’t deliver enough

[DackDackGoose]

Atcheson has something about him for sure! Never known so many youngsters step up in one season. 

Guess they can see the dross ahead of them and gained confidence.

Another game left to rue bad ref decisions as we weren't good enough