They also want their cake and eat it. They want to continue in the PL, where they are currently way ahead financially of the rest - while at the same time, alongside that, earn billions from the ESL. Greed on a massive scale with no thoughts for any other clubs or the structure of domestic football.

Not Venkys, but Tony has spoken.

PNE statement. https://www.pnefc.net/news/2021/april/european-super-league-proposals/ Venky’s said anything yet?

Mourinho sacked.

What this is about, is the big clubs taking total control of European football. They are taking the power from the bodies such as UEFA, the PL. Between them they are cementing their position of running the whole game. No one will be able to move them out. There’s nothing democratic about this. Those clubs will dictate everything and they will be unmoveable. In order to put themselves in that position, they are prepared to destroy the foundation that football has been based on for 150 years. They are prepared to destroy the fundamental rule that if you win games, there is no limit to what you can achieve. That fundamental rule will only apply to those clubs who own and run the ESL. It’s disgusting and only further confirms how far the game has moved from the fans to the billionaires.

It could well mean good riddance to many an English club as well - including rovers. Sky money would virtually disappear for a lot of clubs. Income would be close to zero. we would have to pray that Venkys stayed and propped us up.

I met @bob fleming once. He ignored me when I spoke to him. I thought that was his real name🙂

Who cares? Winning, losing is all the same.

Did you have to oldjamfan?

Just a reminder that it’s live on YouTube.

How do Man City manage to improve their youngsters while winning all those games? Maybe it helps the likes of Foden playing in an ambitious, successful, winning team and club.

If Mowbray truly want to develop players - and I’ve no doubt he does - then the best way to do that is by playing them in a winning team isn’t it? It’s not easy to develop anyone when they’re on the losing side week in, week out. Sorry Tony, but using the idea of developing players ahead of winning games is ridiculous. You do both, don’t you? You seem to be using player development as an ax use for poor results. As for the total dumbing down of supporters expectations from both Waggott and Mowbray, well it’s obvious that they don’t want to be judged against anyone or anything successful. Especially in the eyes of the owners.

What a different club we’d have been if they’d tapped into Williams and Finns experience and knowledge of the club. It’s the biggest mistake they made - after the decision to listen to Anderson.

Hmmm, yeah Arbitro. I much preferred the days when all the talk was about the players - how brilliant they were, how poor they’d been. Nowadays, with Rovers, it’s anything but. It’s about the owners, the manager. They dominate discussion and none of it is in a good way. That’s for them, between themselves, to ask why and do something about it. While things are this way, success on the field will be nigh impossible.

He says today that the other forwards “must” look towards achieving Armstrong’s finishing standards. Easy this management game isn’t it. Just tell them they must score more. Might as well tell me I must become a Premier League player.

A lot of twitterers saying “I accept that it’s time for Mowbray to go, but those that have been shouting for that for ages were well out of order. They’re nasty people and not real fans” In other words, “they were right and I was wrong, but there’s no way I’m admitting that”. Its astonishing how blooming naieve they are.

Dead right CLB. All I did was lend the use of my name. The letter and ideas were completely down to Rev.

Maybe he’ll get on his bike?

My thoughts are with Tony. He now has to continue the depressing task of walking between two sites.