Tim Sherwood was awful and couldn’t get into the side in the old div 2 when he signed, but ended up a premierleague-winning lynchpin and captain. Therefore there’s time yet. However I’ve been unimpressed with Sammy so far apart from his composed finish at Swansea.

https://youtu.be/31JIOLsDIqk If only

Imagine paying Nicko's patreon fee to be told we will only sign Hyam if we sell Brereton.

Only worry on last night was JDT's interview did seem a come and get him regarding Brereton. It seemed to be more talking the price up rather than 'we would prefer it if he stayed'.

No. It was the entire first half until, if rumours are to be believed, the players told him it was bonkers at half time.

According to Soccerbase, Richard Browns only premier league start for Rovers at Ewood was the 7-1 drubbing of Norwich in 1992.

Very good point Marty. I’d never thought of that. If according to Jack’s “plan” we won the league a year earlier than anticipated, the original plan surely was to improve again over the summer of ‘95.

Three days ago.

You’re a master of deflection I will give you that. So I’ll ask you straight. Do you think that we possibly deserved more than a point today? Yes or no? Be careful. Read back what you have already said.

I did go to the game. I thought we deserved naff all . And if you went to that game and think we deserved more than a point your in cloud cuckoo land. And thus begins the circle again.

It’s a good job points earned before the end of the transfer window arent as important as those earner at the end of the season. 👍

I know we are boring people going around in circles here, and it’s true I think we deserved naff all. And you are well entitled to say that is horseshit. Fair enough. But you said we deserved “a point minimum.” That implies that we maybe deserved more than a point. But when I suggested that you were in cuckoo land if we deserved more than a point in that game you’ve kind of denied that’s what you said! I’d suggest it’s you that goes back and re-read what you have written. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt that you may have misunderstood something here. Aside, on a positive note I think a midfield of A. Wharton and Travis could be the basis of a central midfield for the season. Wharton clearly the bright spark of the day today for me.

You said we deserved a point “minimum”. And then you said it again in the post directly above to Booth. That surely implies you think we maybe deserved more than a point. Which is precisely what I said you said.

And as the home team you would expect us to come on strong. Stoke created better situations throughout the game than we did. They just managed the game. Get infront. Hold. If @BankEnd Rover thinks we maybe deserved to win that he’s in cuckoo land

With all due respect, your hoover has never cut the grass like my lawnmower has multiple times this year.

We deserved naff all. First half we should have been 2 or 3 behind. Second half they stopped pressing so high and we still created next to nothing. As far as away performances go, Stoke nailed that and fully deserved 3 points.

He added 5 minutes and on my watch he blew on 95:45 so he added 45 seconds on top of what they indicated. It’s not enough and usually drives me mad. But at least today he added extra on for time wasted in injury time. Often they don’t.

Oh, and we seriously missed Rothwell. Because JR on an average day was better than what our midfield has shown over the last 3 games.

That was awful. However, it’s also probably the game where it has dawned on me that Adam Wharton could be the real deal.

What An Ass that signing is.

When did having to have left footer or “left-sided” central defender become an issue. I don’t remember many of our great defences having left-footed centre halves.

Depends if you like the original. If you liked the original you'll like the new one. If not you won't. Mainly because it's practically the same plot line. Maverick does something stupid. Instead of a bollocking he gets sent to top gun. Students unknowingly embarass instructor in a bar. Instructor walks into class next day much to their shock. Students don't get on during flight training. They bond a little bit in a topless homo-erotic sports scene. Someone close to Maverick dies. Mav may not carry on, but he does. Proper mission comes along at the end. The selected pilots for the mission aren't what peple expect. Mission is unpromising at one stage but eventually becomes good. Pilots, who previously dont get on, get out of plane on deck of aircraft carrier and embrace.

I'd much prefer two quality, permenant centre back permenantly. And no I wouldnt be happy with a loanee replacing Lenihan. I'd clearly rather have a player of sufficient quality who is ours. But that's not the point I've been making. If we are to bring in a loanee, and we can't make JPVH a permenant, then I'd be happy with bringing him back as a loan signing.

There.

Agree on all of that. But if on transfer deadline day we’ve brought nobody in, would you say we don’t want Van Hecke on loan, it’s either permanent or nothing?