I've seen this comparison with Villa a few times since Saturday. Villa also changed manager in October just before they went on that run last season !!!

I was gutted leaving Deepdale on Saturday but, as I only go to 1 or 2 away games a season, at least I don't have to put up with that kind of spineless stuff on a more regular basis. However I feel sorry for those that do. Since we returned to the Championship we have:- Led at Ipswich on the opening day only to concede in the last minute. Led at Bristol City only to put in a second half no-show and lose 4-1 Been 3-0 up at Stoke and tried to throw that away. 1-0 up at Swansea and put in a second half no-show to lose 3-1 A shocker at Preston away last year. A further shocker at Wigan 4 days later. Been 1-0 up against Middlesboro who had 10 men and still didn't win. The farce at Leeds where we took the lead in injury time only to lose 3-2 2-0 up at Brentford only to lose 5-2 Dominate the game at Reading. Manage to get an equaliser with 8 minutes left and then conceded immediately. Get our noses in front at St Andrews with 7 minutes left and then concede immediately. 1-0 up in the first minute at West Brom only to be 3-1 down before half time. 2-0 up at Preston only for a second half no-show and to lose 3-2. Sorry but it's not normal for a football club for that to all happen in away games in less than 15 months. I've not mentioned the Borunemeouth away game in the league cup or the Birmingham home game which saw similar outcomes. Spineless.

I wonder how many of this lot were on a day out with their mates and will now think "Do you know what, I enjoyed that, I might pay £40 this Saturday and go to Ewood?

Underwhelmed, like I felt when they appointed Mowbray. But once you believe we are going backwards and in danger of going down then it's better rolling the dice.

Its a rot that started at Preston away last Novmber and has been ongoing for 11 months. We are almost on relegation form over the past 30 odd games despite the fact we won four on the bounce at the end of last year. Managers dont get a clean slate every summer. There are loads of managers out there that would come. Not sacking him because we "dont know who we would get" was used by people justifying Coyle stopping longer than he should, and that ultimately relegated us.

His shot stopping isnt great. The Hudderfield equaliser springs to mind.. For all Raya's supposed faults, he did pull off the odd worldie of a save now and again. Im struggling to recall any saves that Walton has made that I thought were outstanding. As ive said before, the good keepers save the ones that had they have no right to save. Its easy in hindsight but moving out Raya and Mulgrew and not replacing adequately has been a disaster.

But what if that plumber isn't suitably qualified to work on that type of tap, because it's more complicated than what he is used to working on. (Walton). Or what if you get a electrician to do a plumbers job (Bennett) ? Wigan fans told us that Walton was a good shot stopper but dodgy on crosses. It's not unexpected. The problem is he isn't as good a shot stopper as Raya.

When is the next supporters consulation thingy. The tactic of wheeling Mowbray out to appease the fans might not work at the next one.

The players are only responsible if the errors or performance are worse than normal. Or if they are not trying. If Mowbray decided to play Smallwood in goal yesterday, and Smallwood made errors, it's not Smallwoods fault because he simply isnt good enough. For all we know, Walton is playing to the top of his ability, but that level of ability includes mistakes which costs goals. That's as good as he is. He will do that throughout his career and if you play him in your side then that's the risk you are taking. Bennett has now been at fault for 3 goals in 7 days. If you play him next week at full back and he is at fault again you have to say it's not him 'dropping a clanger'. It's just that he is defensively not good enough.

The problem with shipping Mulgrew out is we are no better defensively, and now do bugger all with corners and free kicks. Whilst some people said they were happy he had gone, it was only a good move if we got adequate replacements in and stopped shipping 2 or more goals every game. We havent. It's another move by Mowbray which has failed.

Nearly 8 years since that front page. Still irks that Cryer wouldn't put his name to it, but we now know why looking at his anti-Rovers stance on Twitter. However had we acted then, the outcome we have endured since was still avoidable.

Not a chance.

Hopefully in midfield.

Waggot is squeezing every penny out of the support he can do, but has suddenly decided to give away free tickets which Roves will ultimately have to pay for in Blackburn town centre.

Tony will be on Radio Lancashire later today saying "If we have a mini and Preston have a Ferrari then there's only one winner"

https://www.pne-online.net/forum/index.php?threads/big-pat-bauer.3428799/page-5 To take just one quote to sum up the thread "Bauer seemed like the perfect defensive signing at the time and so far he is proving to be just that." Of course, we didn't want to stump up a fee or overpay.

Things that need to happen on Saturday. • Re-install Graham alongside Dark. Who cares if it's the only ploy we have that works, we are wasting months trying to find an alternative that is not as good. Every team picked by members on here since Tuesday has Graham up front. Surely Tony can see this is what is best at this moment for the team to gain results. • Allow players to get forward more. Armstrong's starting position is always deeper. You rarely see Travis getting up to Dack. It's like the solution to our defensive problems are to get everyone to drop 15 yards deeper and hope we can cover our deficiencies with more bodies. It stifles us going forward. • Play a left back at left back. Bell, Hart or Downing may well not be good enough but at least they know the job and are in a familiar position. Bennett is becoming a scapegoat because he is versatile. He was at fault for the penalty on Saturday. He was at fault for the goal on Tuesday. It's costing us. In fact, based on the last point and with Johnson proving ineffective, I think I would play Travis and Bennett in midfield. Bennett is more mobile, is no worse on the ball than Johnson generally has been, and i think is better than Evans. I imagine Mowbray would get stick for 'finding a position for him', but if I had the call that would be my move.

Walton Nyambe Tosin Williams Bell Rothwell. Travis. Evans. Downing Dack Graham Id rather not have Bell in but as I'm a firm believer of round pegs in round holes I would start him. Rothwell could be swapped for Chapman or Rankin Costello but it needs a creative option in there.

Gallagher looked a yard sharper and more mobile last time around. If he was in his 30's you'd say he now looks 2 years older. He just looks to me like a player who will ultimately have a regressive profile to his career. (see Danny Cadamarteri, Bradley Allen etc...) The worrying thing is I actually believe the answer to question Gallagher or Brereton may well be Samuel. And that speaks volumes !!

Just watched the goal again. I know he's not a full back, and certainly not a left full back, but what is Bennet doing. He tucks in when there is no danger infront of him, and leaves one guy behind him and lets another one run right around him. He's not helped by Stuart Downing, who clearly looks right at the goalscorer all alone charging into the box but makes no effort whatsoever to help out. It's simply dreadful.

The problem is we sold a keeper who was popular but error prone, and have replaced him with a loanee who simply doesn't look any better and isn't actually ours When we sold Raya, we had lots of names being banded around who most people thought were an upgrade. We ended up blowing the money on a non-scoring striker who we play half of the time on the wing. We had Jason Steele for a couple of seasons, and Walton is definitely steadier than him. But the club talk about kicking on to the next level, and then end up making a major change and being no better off. A few Wigan fans I know had the opinion when he left them to go back to Brighton of "Decent, but there must be better out there not getting a game."

Got to hope the V's had friends and acquaintances around to watch it this evening.

The problem is we just don't have any proper strikers who would get 10+ goals a season and be one of our players of the season. Oh, hang on .....

Where the flip was our central midfielder who fills in at right back and is strangely at left back?

He just looks less mobile this time. He looks ultra bad tonight because the whole team does bar Nyambe and Williams so far.