Hasta

I dont disagree but we've got one thing killing the game, let's not introduce another.

Yep. Like golden goal. The problem is it will slow the game down, kill the excitement and yet will still lead to controversial decisions. One persons opinion differs from another. That first Tottenham goal last night wasn't ruled out because of flaws in VAR, the technology or how it is used. It was ruled out because whoever made the call was an idiot. It would be less controversial if it was a 'panel' adjudicating because surely 2 other people would have said "goal". However how long is that going to take.

Anyone want to have a go at defending that latest VAR catastrophe at Wembley tonight?

He's looked poor for a long time now. However in October people were saying Graham was lazy, didn't care and should be sold and that Samuel should start. Graham actually needed a run of games rather than a few cameos here and there to get his confidence and form back. Similar applies here. I'm not saying he is great, and if he went I wouldn't be sorry, but it's unfair to think this is a good as he is based on Twenty minutes here and there and a couple of starts on the wing, especially when he has looked quite handy earlier in the season.

As I said earlier, look at yesterday. Half of the people said Alli dived, half said he didn't. We would still be debating it whether a ref had watched a video and made a call or now. If you want to punish clear, clear dives and blatant elbows, do it retrospectively.

And yet the entire MOTD team said it was a clear penalty. So we could be having the same debate except we would have had a 2 minute delay while VAR was consulted and the penalty given.

The problem is a lot of decisions are still opinions. The goal at Anfield which was (correctly) disallowed by VAR recently should have been given as a penalty instead if you are going to use the footage to come to the decision. Yesterdays decision was a shambles in the way it was shown. Some people are still saying it was offside, most others think he was level. Differences of opinion despite seeing multiple stills and replays. Twitter is currently in meltdown as to whether Dele Alli dived or not at Rochdale. Goal-line technology is fine as its black or white, but if anyone thinks there will be no more contentious decisions with VAR they are kidding themselves.

No he wasn't. He stood his ground. The keeper pushed him forward when the ball was in flight and only then did he back back in to his position. If you are going to review the passage of play on video then you have to analyse the whole situation. It would be soft but you can't tell me the keeper putting two hands and pushing like that isn't a penalty.

Just watched the Liverpool game. For the first disallowed goal, Barry is given offside. As the ball comes In, you can clearly see the keeper.pushing Barry to get him out of the 6 yard box. Therefore it should have been a penalty. If Barry does that to the keeper he blows straight away.

Fair enough depending on if the grey areas can be avoided. What if a cricketer thinks he's nicked it, appeals, the batsman clearly hasn't hit it and then the appealer gets fined. It can only be used absolute clear cases like the Diouf incident. Many yellows I see for diving are grey. Even under VAR they would be grey.

Problem is most diving incidents have varying opinion. Everyone agrees that Dioulf dived at Ewood when playing for Bolton. However people have alternate views on the Morata / William incident's last week. Big punishments can only be applied if it's absolutely clear..

Would you fine a cricketer 5 weeks wages for appealing for a catch when he knows the batsman didn't nick it?

Regardless of whether he went down or not, are you saying the defender didn't put his arm on him to deliberately stop him breaking clear? Is that not a foul?

If Morata had been trying to sprint clear and had put his arms on a defender like the defender did for the "penalty", the ref gives a free kick every time. If the ref decided not to give a penalty fine but to book him, when the hand on him pventing a clear run is obvious, was ridiculous . He had no need whatsoever to book Morata and that ultimately led to Morata's rant and sending off. He got the Willian penalty wrong as well and also failed to give a clear Chelsea free kick at the end when they were down to 9. Ref had a shocker whilst trying to get his 5 minutes of fame on the Beeb.

Antonson's ball in to Dack for the 3rd looked simple but how many times did we see the likes of Feeney mess those situations up. Full steam ahead with 3 of the next 4 games at home.

Edited cos vinjay doesnt like my drunken humour (or lack of in this case!) (Sorry, I've been drinking near t'Turf ?)

Bonus points for anyone who can turn "Back in Black" into a Bradley Dack song.

Both. A good manager can blend a team of adequate players into a successful side. There is now a massive worry if Mowbray can do that, especially after witnessing that @#/? today. He seems to think we can keep it tight and almost overpower the opposition to get results. Like we don't need to work at it. However the squad is simply not as good as people thInk. On what they have showed in Rovers colours, the players simply lack the talent people think they have. As defenders, Ward, Caddis and Williams aren't great. As cultured as Mulgrew is on the ball, he's not the best out and out defender. Downing has done well fortunately, but we're solid rather than blessed in defence. Midfield,is a funny one as it has improved since relegation. Smallwood shows up how bad Lowe was and we have a lot of average options. However, none who started today have anything in their game to unlock a defence. That job falls to Dack and Chapman but they are currently benched. From what we have seen Dack is living off reputation though. I'm Yet to see his true value. Up front is another quandary. Grahams purple patch (10 weeks?) ended long ago and neither Antonsson or Samuel look like they will create lots, or that they will sniff out 20 goals. I think this is another area we seriously lack in. In short, watching how the games are panning out, Mowbray should be doing better as we are playing poor and being overrun in many games. However I still don't believe we have a squad that is in the best two in the league.

Agree about King and Gestede. However some people blindly supported Gaz when he started dropping them for Brown up front !! That was the final straw for me with Bowyer.

Is it on Radio Rovers?

I get your point but it's a bit irrelevant in the current climate. If Ibrox was only going to be 50% full against Celtic regardless then they could reduce the capacity by 10,000 with no complaints.

They're not quite a Ferrari. That Souness 5-0 team would still spank their current mob.

At least the service is as reliably bad as ever. I left my seat in the Blackburn end at 3.35pm and got served at 3.58pm. Rushed my pint down in a few minutes to get up for the second half as there was no coverage downstairs but still missed the first goal.

Ah ok. I'll let them off. It wouldn't have surprised me though

Game not shown on concourse anymore. The 'matchday experience'.