Or Southampton or Leeds if they became available.

Can you see if you can find it, because the Birmingham story was debunked by the majority of fans that were there and has become an urban myth. I've not seen any documentary on Sky regarding BBD.

Whether it is a big following or not will depend on how many people returned tickets when it was cancelled.

Szmosics had a good game and the team played well, but there was no high press.

Whilst I was pretty worried until the penalty, once we got in front we played some good stuff and were pretty comfortable. I’m surprised they had lost so few before today after watching them, but even so it was a good confidence-boosting win all in. No one was an outstanding 9 or 10, but with everyone probably rating 7 with a few 8’s in there made us clearly the better team overall. Atmosphere was pretty flat from both sides.

My mate was offered the spare season ticket in our group on Wednesday and he said the same thing. Tried him again this morning and he still said no.

Not necessarily because in the 4 minutes that were left I wouldnt have put it past us shipping at the other end, as my examples above and several others from recent history highlight. If the ref had literally blown the whistle after the goalkeeper kicked it then I would say yes. But he didnt.

Just going to give this a bit of a bump as I started the Michael Hodkinson book No Nay Never last night after having left it unread at the side of the bed for almost a year. As others have said its a brilliant read, and I'm only on the early chapters so far. If you missed it or ignored it last year, well worth checking out.

Therefore Brad Friedel once won us a point at Charlton. And Charlie Mulgrew won us three points at Leeds. We ended up losing both of those games.

The problem is he’s not doing it slowly. From about 4 games in it became clear he is insisting that the players we have play this slow build passing game from the back. It doesn’t suit the players and it shows in the performances. In fact I first noticed us doing it at Celtic.

It was the insinuation that you need premiership payments to achieve success. I replied its not true because clubs that dont have premiership money DO have success and DO get promoted. We're in a bit of a circle here. Howver forget we are talking about Rovers. The point is you can trade your way to promotion. It's difficult but this is sport and it does happen, and probably more often than your post above implies.

There's nothing new I can say that I havent said after the Luton and Millwall games. Slow pointless passing putting ourselves in trouble and losing the ball and creating little threat. When we went a goal down we suddnely started trying to get the ball forward quicker and looked a bit more dangerous. Also helped that we had an attacker on the pitch who knows how to find himself in dangerous positions. However i'm sure we will be back to the same slow build from our own half "project" next game. Jon Dahl Stubbornsson

No. You said without parachute payments ( "premier league money) you couldn't succeeed in this league. If you trade properly you can. If you put a Rovers hat on, would we have been allowed to invest as much of that money from sales in as Forest have? Almost definitely not.

Forest Net Spend last season = £5.5m Forest Net Spend 20/21 = -£0.5m Forest Net Spend 19/20 = -£8.78m So they've actually gained £3.78million on net transfer dealing over the last 3 years. Incidentally, Forest haven't bought a play in the last 3 years until they achieved promotion who cost as much as Gallagher.

And yet when some people call Waggot a liar he gets defended by others. This is why you can’t take anything he says in an interview as being true.

Burnley, Bournemouth, Brentford, Brighton, Leeds, Huddersfield off the top of my head all managed promotion. Success in my head for a manager without parachute payments would be top 6. Others do it every season. We couldn’t.

Generally, at least 2 clubs every season finish in the top 6 without parachute payments. I'd class top-6 as a success for a non-parachute payment club.

By "We", I meant the club and the player went they sit down for discussions. But you're right. Ultimately he can do what he wants.

All Broughton is really saying there is "we will decide if he leaves in January or the summer". He doesnt clearly talk about offering Brereton a new contract to stay beyond the summer. The articles hints at it, but the quotes do not.

I’d probably put it as failing to get in the top 6 in the next 3 seasons. Or being seriously in a relegation battle in any of those seasons.

Because the players we have don’t fit that model. And players who do fit that model will be difficult to find as they will cost a lot of money and be sought after. Im not talking about his game plan in general. Just the decision to want to play everything out in short balls from the back. I reckon it’ll shoot us in the foot shortly, and then we will see him eventually start to tell them clear it from the back a bit more direct more often. Another thing that worries me a little bit of whether he will be prepared to mix it up with a plan B if plan A is not working. Luton and Bristol City games suggest not.

And in my opinion that is why he will fail.

In general you can't complain with 6 wins and 6th place at the start of October. However its not the general style of football and possessional play that bothers me. If we want to knock it across a back line for a bit to try and find an opening that's fine. Its pretty dull to watch and if the game is going against us it will be highlighted, but if it helps us control games and thus get more points great. If that's how he wants to play then great, although Buckley and Dack suit possession play more than Gallagher ever will. I'm seeing less and less of the "high press" we thought he would instill. However Kaminsky passing to his centre halves or midfielders when they are stood 12 yards from goal and under pressure is incredibly high risk with little reward. It's cost us goals already at Luton and should have cost us yesterday. The players we had yesterday are simply not good enough footballers to receive the ball and pass out in that situation. You say "It takes time though to grow to be more incisive & build up confidence", but it doesn't matter how long JDT works at it Ayala, Travis, Hyam, Pickering and Wharton are not going to be able to regularly receive the ball 8 yards from our goal-line and play it through the opposition lines to get us attacking the front foot.

Hull sack their manager after 4 straight defeats.

This one seems doubly painful as it was so soon after the Queens death cancelled a full weekend of fixtures.