Like we’ve said, SBlue, he has zero interest in the long term health of the fanbase/getting bums on seats. There’s a revenue target to hit and if selling *around* 8k (I say ‘around’ as I’m not sure we’ll even get to that pathetic figure) then that’s that as far as he’s concerned. Lazy, cynical and totally without passion for this grand old club. So very sad.

I’m seeing very little re ST discussion? Only a single sentence about the phase 2 price rise, not the whole *very large* issue. As an existential issue for the very future of Blackburn Rovers, I presume the discussion was frank and lengthy and it has just not been captured verbatim on the minutes?

‘Waggott said this was the ‘best response in five years’ and sales in phase one, which ran until May 7, had been above the target of up to 6,500.’ Best response is five years! So definitely 10k by KO then, great stuff.

Each to their own, but I’d be on that private jet quicker than you could say Madri…

And we need to look at it from their perspective too, most players aren’t fanatical supporters of a club, they are in academies from a young age, see it as a job - not in the stands every Saturday, living and breathing it like us, so generally they will pick moves for the betterment of their careers.

Hmm, maybe they were just slightly different personalities, what do you reckon? He was a troubled soul in his 20s, like a lot of young lads. He had a tough upbringing, living in a tough area… But guess what he would have been a troubled soul if he’d have stayed at Everton living in the goldfish bowl of Liverpool too, winning trophies at Man Utd was bugger all to do with it… so what’s your post got to do with the point I was making?

Seeing a ✍️ photo next to pints of lager and dark fruit is a first for me 😁

If does, but considering claim your seat was flagged as last Friday it’s dragging on longer than last year. Just the lack of comms that annoys me. Why can’t they just put a post out: ‘we are at the end of the claim your seat period and are processing seat transfers. They will be back on sale on x day.’ A load of folk have been paid since Friday and may be interested (theoretically, not at these prices), so keep them in the loop…

If I was absolute elite, and Rovers weren’t, I would go to the place where I would win most medals. I would then end my career at Rovers. Why did a famous Evertonian leave them as a young player for United? To win things, as unfortunately he knew it wouldn’t happen there, he then returned at the back end of his career. Eminently sensible and rational - but of course football is tribal, emotional, not always rational, so players won’t always make the best decision for their careers.

You are conflating two things. Of course he would enjoy/have more pride in playing for Newcastle, however for his *career* as an elite sportsman it was the wrong move at that time - as his medal haul proved. He should have gone to United/Barca/Inter and ended his career at Newcastle, ergo scratching both itches.

Must have hit Swag’s bonus already…

Both of those things should have happened. Shearer and R9, Sherwood and Zidane lining up in Champions League final…

I’m glad he didn’t, would’ve made me sick seeing him in a Sharp emblazoned shirt… doesn’t mean it wasn’t still the right career move.

Career wise he was a fool, the guy was probably only behind Brazilian Ronaldo as the best striker in the world, he should have won a bagful of trophies. Doesn’t mean that he didn’t enjoy being at his home town club, didn’t make good money. But it was a waste, just like Kane.

He was a fool, heart over head, one medal for one of the players of his generation- should’ve gone abroad or United.

93-97 Flowers was top class, went very quickly downhill after that.

That was Shearer for me.

But as Andy said on the Tugay thread, Brad played twenty five years in the top flight, nearly a decade of those for us. SRJ, as good as he was for the Rovers of that era spent his career (aside from a dozen games or so at the back end of his career) in the second and third divisions.

We had so many loanees between 2012 and about 2017 that I literally have no memory of watching.

Crowds, that’s all it ever boils down too.

We all know about our demographics and geography, however we could always still compete with a lot of sides when it came to crowds regardless - but now we could well be 23rd in the average attendance list of the second division (only probably Rotherham lower) next season. We are now a top half third division club gate-wise, despite spending pretty much two full seasons in the top 6 of the Championship, nothing more then needs to be said about the rank incompetence of the commercial operation of this football club, nothing more needs to be said of how utterly out of touch they are. Yet, nothing, ever changes.

Flowers was superb in his first three seasons or so, his form dropped markedly towards the end of his time here.

It’s just moving deckchairs around the Titanic, a 12,000 crowd in a 31,000 ground will always look sparse whatever jiggery pokery you engage in. He’s put more thought in to closing stands and moving the remaining hardcore in to more camera prominent areas than actually, you know, trying to increase the numbers…

Wasn’t the real point of ending the Riverside as a cheaper option so that post camera move it would coax people towards the other stands? Which has ‘worked’ as the Riverside is now notably quieter. So I just can’t see them reducing prices in there, out of sight, out of mind and all that…

Chadster would still buy one.