Mattyblue

You are correct Bizzle. People have a choice to make, and if we do see our sales go down substantially … again, whilst most other clubs at least get back to where they were in 2019/20, if not considerably higher, they’ve made said choice and the only conclusion to draw is that there’s something seriously amiss at this club, no? And without root and branch change to its set up, from executives to team manager, a change the owners seemingly just aren’t interested in pursuing, I just don’t see how the club climbs out of this hole.

Well they won’t actually over perhaps 1/2000 or so extra walk ons (though with match day tickets at £30/£35 that will put many off) as our gates have always consisted heavily of ST holders, season ticket sales go down, so will gates by the same figure.. We sell 10,000 STs and we’ll have 12/13,000 of home attendance. We sell 5,000 and it will be 7/8,000. The way it has always been here. That’s why JW always banged the drum of how vitally important it was to keep that solid core of ST holders and to work hard to increase it, as we just don’t sell match day tickets in any real numbers here, in comparison to clubs from bigger conurbations .

Indeed. And even discounting Bolton and Blackpool as a comparison as they are increasing sales on the back of a promotion doesn’t read across here - as we somehow managed to not increase sales at all on the back of ours… even though we finished the season with 28,000 in the ground. Let’s be frank, the club is in a very deep hole.

Not what I’m finding reading around other local papers and websites. Yes, Blackpool et al, but even clubs that have been treading water are reporting strong demand.

Agree largely Roversider, however the evidence points to something else re your last sentence - as most clubs are reporting strong sales, the fact we certainly won’t be doing the same tells me there is something rotten in the state of Blackburn Rovers.

Will our season ticket sales be much higher than even Accy will be getting through their gates?

Yet Bolton will have bigger gates than us next season. A perfect example of how BRFC is just merely existing at this point.

Pushing 40 years, I’d say.

My point being most haven’t raised prices substantially since we were last allowed in grounds. A braindead move, just like post Oxford.

All true in the wider economy rog, but most other Championship clubs have gone the other way this summer…

Though you’ll still read… ‘cheap as chips’, ‘still have some of the lowest prices in the league’ posts all over social media. First one, well, value is in the eye of the beholder, I suppose. Second one, is just untrue these days, now we are actually top end.

Oh I agree. As an example, Boro are seemingly Cat A+ because they brought 5/6000 a few years back when they were going for promotion, so the idiots down there presume they’ll be doing the same when they are sitting in 12th for a Tuesday night game in January.

All cat A+ means is they think there will be thousands of away fans to fleece (hostage to fortune there with the ongoing Covid situation re away fans even being allowed).

A mere team? Premier League giants Leeds United, more like…

Totally agree with that analysis. Again, speaking anecdotally what I’ve noticed this past twelve months is even with fans I would have always seen as fanatics, the club just rarely even gets mentioned in conversations anymore. Obviously, the pandemic is part of that, but that just adds to the fiendishly difficult job it will be to flog a decent amount of STs… and who at the club cares or is switched on enough to put that graft in?

Who we talking about, Rovers? Of course, the coaching staff here will be happy he’s there, as am I, great for his development and confidence, which can only help him for next season. Ok, I’ll re-phrase, the club’s social media output is milking it, but then, it’s run by a Crawley Town fan, so no surprise there.

One of the main reasons folk stop going to matches is when they’ve had enough of a manager and the product they put on the pitch. If that’s a ‘personal’ reason, then so is every choice a fan makes for knocking it on the head. But then surely by your mantra of ‘ “supporters” we support by turning up’, not liking the manager isn’t a good enough reason to not go, putting up with poor managers is simply part of being a fan, no?

Who’s desperate? Chile? Your true feelings on BB slipping out there Bizzle, tut tut!

Shows how the expectations and standards of many fans has fallen through the floor if EB (a good solid pro and servant, but lower league journeyman all the same) is being deemed ‘a legend’. Same with BB, fair play to the lad, but you’d think he was the first Rovers player to ever get an international cap the way the club is milking it…

‘Personal reasons’ being you didn’t like the manager at the time… so a few years later others are following your example and are also not going because of their feelings re a manager, yet you believe this is different, why’s that?

Didn’t you stop going because we appointed a certain ex Bolton and Burnley manager, Paul? (Apologies if I’m confusing you with someone else).

About 5 and a half weeks to flog STs then presuming they go on sale next week…

The away day (note, ‘day’, not 3pm to 5pm) has been one of the few decent aspects left of being a Rovers fan this past decade. The mood music doesn’t sound good for such trips resuming anytime soon…

See my post was deleted, however I’ll re-post the salient bit. Our fanbase is well spread across a fair few constituencies these days, so it isn’t just Hollern that needs engaging.

I’ve worked in Stoke… so no surprises there.