Pretty sure I created a thread about this. Think it's the third Thursday in March IIRC.

I honestly believe that we are going down.

Perhaps but is Mahoney not worth a game ahead of Bennett for instance.

I'm not old enough.Thing with Mahoney is that he hasn't yet been given an opportunity. He has been messed around quite a bit though. Thought he had his chance under Lambert and has been gone backwards since Coyle came in. It irritates when young lads get a game playing with poorer players and expected to perform. Give them a chance with first teamers - especially when they have been in and around the team for so long. It's not lack we are doing well with those players deemed better than him.

No mention for Mahoney?

We already know most of this but it's interesting side-by-side. https://www.facebook.com/828777003809568/videos/1357725770914686/ Treatment of English fans compared to Germans - and just look at the crowds! Compare and contrast the dying English fan scene where the match day experiencefor fans is sacrificed (butchered) presumably to make TV viewing preferable...

Wouldn't be surprised if BK negotiated a reduced rate and BwD agreed because they are a 'name' and presumably add prestige.

Right next door. And BK is open.Burger King is crap and sounds like Taco Loco is too.

Keep at it, you'll get there.Did you protest, rigger?

Certain managers guarantee a certain standard, in the sense that they have a high percentage. Obviously nobody gets 100% but 70% is a damned good number. Managers like Allardyce, Warnock, Bruce, McCarthy 'guarantee' certain things.Managers like Coyle effectively guarantee failure. We all saw it coming and then when it happens people bang on about nothing being certain or the power of hindsight. My first post about this was that I would expect Warnock to have had us midtable after 15 games. You brought up Cardiff (rather bizarrely). Yet the stats back my expectation, rather than your ill-judged pop about where Warnock had Cardiff after 4 games. There's no shame in being wrong so put away the spade.

It was also largely because all of those people making a mess of the boardroom left. Warnock would have had us (and Cardiff) mid table if he had been at either club from the start of the season. Cardiff's poor start and league position is no reflection on Warnock at all.Look at Warnock's record and look at Coyle's over the same period. No contest. Really not sure what point you are trying to make. You don't like Warnock?

How long did it take Blackpool? Don't see much difference in our circumstances.

Is this a joke post? 7 points from 4 games extrapolated over the 15 league matches Coyle has played this season is 26 points and 5th in the table.Please, go on...

...8 years ago.

Along with naivety, confusion, badly-advised, etc...

He's pretty much exactly where we thought we would be when we signed him.Now, where would we have expected to be with Warnock in charge? With poorer, lower cost players I'd say comfortably mid table in reach of the play-off places.

Losing good folks, proper supporters like this, is heartbreaking and is exactly why we need to keep making ourselves heard against Venkys, and against those "fans" who boo the protests and who were delighted with a draw yesterday to help justify their preconceived views. We need to keep up the pressure and make sure that any google search for Venkys brings up their name alongside poor decision making, failed ownership and incompetence.This isn't just about managers, our disastrous owners lurch from bad decision to bad decision, and their minions call it bad luck. Right now we are heading for League One under a shroud. Ewood is miserable largely because there are no signs that it is ever going to get better, and experience tells us that Venkys are likely to continue making it worse. Despite Venkys "apparent" wealth, we have managed to spend all of the PL prize money, all of the parachute money and sold all of our best players to keep the club afloat. AND we are over £100m in debt. If that doesn't set alarm bells ringing with some people then I can only conclude that: They. Don't. Care. We are doomed WITH Venkys in charge. Where is the money going to come from? Where are our next player sales going to come from? What do we have left to sell? What, are they so STUPID as to keep hold of the club, without spending, and appointing duff managers, thinking that we might still get promoted? Even ignoring the conspiracy theories about potential sales of Ewood and Brockhall, can one of the anti-protesters tell us: what is left to sell? Where is the money coming from to pay wages and running costs? Don't tell me, it's the stayaway fans that are ruining our chances! Pah! What a cop out. What did Venkys do with ticket and sales money when we DID have 25k crowds? That's right they added it to the pot and gave it to agents to buy substandard players who helped Kean to relegate us. Venkys have effectively dumped us but won't sell - seemingly because they think they have somehow added value to the club where they think they can get their money back! Nobody is buying your damaged goods at premium prices. Anyone interested is now waiting for the club to go into the Poundland shop window. And we fans have to sit and wait until you take us out of the league before we can even start to rebuild. Before we can even hope to have fans like Tyrone back on board. And some folk think that coming back to Ewood and getting behind the boys is going to change anything about our current trajectory. That money will just vanish again. It won't be used towards better players, better managers, better anything. I just hope that enough people will be willing to come back once Venkys do eventually dump the club though, because we are going to need them. Anyone who sat on their hands yesterday, please don't make excuses when the time comes. You are the self-proclaimed TRUE BLUE fans and you will be expected to be part of the rebuilding process (as much as the protesters) whichever league we are in.

Struggling a bit with your maths there, Shaun. 36 no?Moot point mind. Still sends us down.

Earliest incarnation I remember it as was 'Unit 4'. Not very imaginative!

Charm offensive.

There's no doubt whatsoever in my mind that we are this season's Blackpool. Just without the fan demonstrations.

0.5

Just wait til it starts raining. Beautiful day yesterday - just look at that sky! This is obviously the plan.I think that once people get used to the camera move will be seen as a good thing. Even better if some Qatari business man sees the fantastic stadium on TV and thinks we are the next Man City.