TM is unique though---no manager has ever been less accountable for results than this bloke.

Going with the Pink Floyd analogy, couldn't Tony's tenure be compared to the "Endless River"?

He's a reasonable collector of ingredients but a rotten cook. He he can't put the ingredients together and has consistently neglected the base of the cake.

Yes but he's not a loan is he?

Tim Barron?!!

Scott Dann was better than Taylor and I was sad we let him go but he wasn't as good as Jones or Tosin imo.

Agree. Its frustrating for the younger players. Every time we sign a loanee they slip that farther back. Eg Wharton, he went on loan after loan, and from memory was about to go on loan again but we had run out of players and we had no choice but to play him. Result?---he excelled! Its OK to sign 4 or 5 Premier League players we could not afford to buy, to get us up. But when we don't go up season after season and face a big turnover at the end of the season, then bring a new set of loanees in, you have to question it. It doesn't help that we have so many crocks in our squad.

How about "going for it in a restrained way"?!!

Are we actually signing him? I've seen endless "Rovers closer to signing Pickering stories".

Looks like the owners have decided to go for it as, I seem to remember, you said a week or two back. Strap in and let's enjoy the ride!

Seriously doubt that. If anyone offers it we would snap their hand off.

Ridiculous.

Bloody hell Chaddy, he isn't a Rovers supporter is he? He had a choice and he made it---for himself. Plenty of time to help out another club when he is financially secure. Jones was a Rovers supporter and he was off to Manu like grease lightening!

and the ability to see it through.

Poor old Wharton. Waited so long for his chance, proved himself and promptly got injured. Football can be a cruel game sometimes. I hope he doesn't get forgotten.

Lovely. At last!

They'd rather earn £30000+ a week than £10000. Hardly a surprise.

It won't be for £5M though!

Yeah, I can see why you"d say that. I'm a bit ambivalent about it really. We won't see the best of him under Mowbray that's for sure. And it isn't fair to judge him on the basis of the position he's asked to play. The thing is we have a double dose. Exactly the same things can be said about Brereton! How anyone can say Mowbray's a good manager on this basis alone is beyond me.

Yes, that's fair comment.

For everyone else on the MB, I'm sure its clear that my comment on the rate of progress is my opinion and just that. I didn't say so because its obvious!

He is an odd one alright. Sometimes, in fact a lot, he looks like a young colt who's still learning to walk. And, you're right, hie first touch is often woeful. But he does compete, nothing seems to get him down, not even being played out of position. Every game he does something that makes you think "there is a player in there". But he was never worth £5M.

I'm not lecturing you on opinions just telling you not to call them "facts"! You're perfectly entitled to believe Mowbray is a good manager, but "good' is a relative term. If you mean "good relative to Coyle" then you are setting the bar too low---in my opinion!

Don't put words in my mouth, you have enough problems with your own!

I'm a bit confused here----he's messed up so many chances as to prevent us being in the play-offs but its a great signing from Mowbray?!! You wouldn't be having it both ways would you?