If it depends on the Walker Trust ii won't take endless pots of money if the takeover is any guide.

And won't go ahead with this apparently much needed upgrade unless the land is sold. Warning to fans not to object but to stay in their rightful place.

Bloody disgrace that! Used to love walking down those lanes. Euxton will be a city if they keep this up.

I see TM has described Forest as "well-organised"! Another team we'll presumably struggle against then. Exactly what he said about Barnsley. Tony ---they're all well-organised except us and Wycombe. Stop deluding yourself! You're not fooling us.

Is this a good time to suggest that more fans join the Rovers Trust? If these plans go ahead the Trust will presumably want to put a case before a Planning Committee. Hiring experts to assist costs money. Only £10 a year---surely everyone can afford that to save an asset supposedly bequeathed to us by Jack?

Why would anyone be moaning at Brentford? Is he saying building a promotion team takes years and fans haven't moaned while Brentford were doing it? He's had years and we are as far away as ever.

I picked up a bit at the start of the season but I should have known better.

So long as they are happy with no spectators (and I don't mean cos of Covid).

Spare some sympathy for me then. I've been like this for months.

We won't get 70 points either.

If this current run continues we will be looking down not up. We haven't been playing the top teams yet we can't win a game. Unlikely that we'll be relegated, we will scab a couple of wins somewhere but not impossible and a long,long way from where we should be.

"move in the right direction " as the song goes!

The key word there is "finally", that season was a bloody nightmare.

They built the pyramids quicker than this! (Mind you, Tony wasn't on that job!)

Well done, good to see you are getting it. (I tried to write that without being condescending so sorry if that's how it reads)

I don't expect promotion ever from this bloke. We have no chance. Good that you're not a fan of Mowbray though! I see you replied to me already before I've even posted this. Something of a campaign going here! I'll leave it there and you can troll someone else.

No he didn't, you were right first time!

Really? I had high hopes for him when he came, but, realistically I shouldn't have. I should have looked closely at his record. The situation is that he is getting worse. He was outwitted by Neil last game wasn't he? Or did I imagine that? When we lose all the loanees at the end of the season and players leave without a fee, that's when we'll see his legacy. As for "stability"----at what point does that become "stagnation"? I would argue we're already there.

And what finances we do have have been spent well? Not that simple is it? The really simple part of it is that we have a poor manager.

If he didn't think Nyambe was good enough why didn't he sell him when we could get a decent fee for him and sign another? He's had four years + to sort out this spot and the rest of the defence and he's failed.

That's true but there was nothing special about that Preston game. It was typical of games we've seen for 2 years now. And there will be more.

Was he dropped or rested?

Koli b Drain, Pujara b Drain, Pant b Drain, Rahane b Drain.

We're in deep shit. I can understand resting Jimmy Anderson but not Dominic Bess. Given that Joffre was injured as well bowling wasn't strong enough. And since we batted poorly in the first innings we forfeited any chance anyway. Just got to play for some honour now and not give up wickets cheaply.

Given the way we are playing that is not completely out of the question.