RevidgeBlue

If we're the only suitor for him maybe. If not and If we're going down, (which I think we are) what's the point in him moving unless we're a better long term prospect? (eg Derby v Rovers) Im not even sure we're that at the moment either. All likely to be hypothetical debate anyway as we won't pay the fee for him.

I think it's more likely that the owners don't WANT to be relegated but that Pasha and Gestede (and Waggott when he was still here) pitched them this masterplan about how they could reduce the age of the squad with a view to selling players on, save a shitload of costs in terms of wages and STILL retain Championship status! (Cue £ signs!) In short the stooges have played Russian roulette with our Championship future and probably failed. The live bullet is about to go off. I still dont think either that anyone has accounted properly for the loss of Championship TV Revenue if we go down plus all the other associated loss of revenue. The net position will be we'll be a lot worse off.

From the player's perspective it would be an odd and risky move to agree to a permanent offer to move in the hope of moving again in the summer.

I'm thought you were asking about the suggestion that Cashin had to play because Brighton were subbing most if not all his wages. That came from the people who normally share the transfer rumours. Apologies if Ive got my wires crossed.

Wow, what's the bid today, £1.6m plus a £3.4m add on if he hits 300 international caps? (Not having a go at you sorry. The LT shouldn't be encouraging this nonsense either) Lashings of humble pie at the ready if Im wrong.

You've asked the same question before and I answered it at the time. From the same people who provide the transfer rumours normally. You seem quite happy to believe them when it suits, for example if it's reported we've spent £3m on a player.

Hard to argue against that isn't it when you consider what they did to Eustace and the experienced players, failing to give them any assurances on their futures and replacing them with Ismael and assorted Eurotrash. The vast majority of us knew how it would turn out and so it's proving.

Personally I think that's a bit harsh. I don't mind nipping over to the other forum to discuss the pro's and cons of anything or anyone doing the same over here as long as any live debate takes place in a reasonably respectful manner.

That's it in a nutshell isn't it. Not going to call anyone "clappers" or anything like that but some supporters actually seem to be citing the fact that only 6.5 k home fans turned up is some sort of failure on behalf of the protest organisers! As if home crowds of that level are acceptable in general! It's beyond bizarre. Anyhow, Im eager to hear what the next protest initiative will be and if it involves turning up at a match Im in. Really, different sorts of protest should already have been organised for each of the next two home games. The pressure needs to be kept up now and constant imo.

Very much so. I nearly posted "Unfortunately I doubt this will be another fairy tale Souness type solution". We got extremely lucky with that.

We'll be lucky if we get to 40 points with this bloke!

Hopefully Leicester use the same data metrics that we do which all apparently showed Ismael to be by far "the outstanding candidate". Get shut of the useless twonk and 2.5 years compo on top. If Carlsberg did approaches..............

Why do they need him when they've got Sam Gallagher?

Yes, that's a really good point. Outside of those two brief runs his record really is impossibly bad. And the first run of 4 games came from a better team when the pressure was off because it looked at the time as though we'd played ourselves completely out of play off contention and it didn't matter.

I was meaning more they wont spend the going rate on wages more than transfer fees. Also, dont forget they sold Hyam in the last few hours of the summer transfer window which would have been £3m in they weren't necessarily expecting so I dont think they deserve a ticker tape welcome through town for reinvesting that money either!

Absolutely no problem. I freely admit I've been a VERY negative bugger about the Club over the last 5 years or so because other than the glimmers of hope offered by JDT and Eustace I see nothing whatsoever to be positive about! In fact I've been dubbed "The anti chaddy" on here as well which reflects my level of concern about the Club. Imo it's not just a normal case of we've got a poor manager (although we have) and we'll go down and bounce back etc. It's the very existence of the Club that is at stake. We won't be bouncing back like last time it happened and imo if Venky's remain for any length of time the Club dies. It's as simple as that. So for me we have to do SOMETHING, anything to try and get them out. Sitting back and doing or saying nothing simply isn't an option if we want the Club to survive in a meaningful form. And a call for a boycott is a logical and appropriate first step in that process imo.

Thanks for clarifying. Either way it's seems a bonkers rule to me - a reward for bad ownership if you will.

Why is it not the plan though? Because they refuse to spend the money. Why do they refuse to spend the money? Because they are no longer able or willing to. Probably the latter.

For a player the selling Club want £5m for! I mean if the bid was £3m upwards or £3m rising to a max £5m with add ons then you still might not land the player but at least it would come into the category of being a serious offer rather than taking the piss.

You've done that thing again........... Lol. That's not an answer to the question I asked whether you say it or they say it!

Exactly. But the point M-B was making was they're so rich they won't be starved out and I think they could be because they won't go beyond said ceiling any longer.

Isn't there some weird EFL rule whereby they're entitled to 25p in the pound therefore they'd be entitled to expect c£55m?

Bloody well hope not. He's still shit even if he's played slightly better since we switched to 3-5-2.

So then, why won't they pay the going rate for established Championship players anymore?

Nope. And still waiting in vain for this "We usually seem to pull out a win when we really need it" type victory. (Although I appreciate you've changed your mind and now only think we'll beat Wednesday 🙂 )