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Also, did it take only until recently for Venkys to lose interest? They havent attended a game in about 10 years. Most summers saw minimal spending even before the court case.

He isnt why we are in the mess we are in now, at all. Seemingly, when you get a dislike of someone, it really sticks in your head permanently even if their spell here becomes an irrelevance. He hasnt been here for 3 or 4 years. This idea that he was purposely avoiding the massive pay rise that a promotion would bring just shows that hatred is coming in over any semblance of logic. But either way, hes been gone for long enough whereby any damage he personally did (which I cant see, youll have to be specific) would have worn off.

But it also wont work if we wont offer competitive wages, lose so many proven players simultaneously and replace them with random cheap players from lesser leagues. They do know what they are doing above Ismael. They are refusing to offer competitive wages, their only focus is cutting costs. But although they know what they are doing, its clearly not to the betterment of the football club.

Maybe they didnt, maybe they expected it. But it still would piss you off when it happens or you at least wouldnt agree with it or actively want it.

We had a number of spells with Waggott here where we did sort new deals. Notably one under Broughton and one under Mowbray. He clearly was never the reason as it doesnt make sense. It coincides with regular owner cutbacks.

What? Thats like saying if a manager knows that he has £100k transfer budget, how could he be mad that he doesnt have more when he knew they only had £100k. He has no control over budget. Purely from his perspective, his squad is being made massively weaker because we lack the willingness to finance and the proactivity to offer proper contracts. So we sign inferior crap. If hes on board and fully aligned then hes an idiot.

I dont know why you keep saying "historic failures" when the same idiots are running things. If Ismael is genuinely happy to see all of our proven Championship quality leave and be replaced by whatever we can pluck from random leagues for under a milion, then he is a bit thick. But more importantly, the removal of quality from our squad becomes more important than whether Ismael is "aligned" with the idea. With Hyam for example, it isnt historic. We are just choosing not to offer a proper contract. If we did he seemingly would sign.

That 1 minute at the end of a cup game was definitely primarily a play to get more money at tribunal.

His intentions are most likely that he is sat on a 3 year deal so not to rock the boat. Nothing sinister beyond that. He has shown signs of frustration already and he will be worn down at some point. They all have been.

I knew that would anger you more than it perhaps should.

I wish we were in a position where we were signing a proven, very good Championship winger but worrying that we overpaid.

Yes, I am sure he is against keeping all of our best players. His wishes are irrelevant.

The damage doesnt seem to have been done on Hyam, or maybe Tronstad. We are just refusing to offer them any sort of rise.

Are we seeing the pattern in senior players not renewing their contracts yet?

I dont think it was a "massive mistake." He cost a nominal fee and has seriously declined since suffering 2 bad hamstring injuries. I dont think he has been a good signing though. I cant understand why we extended his deal. Well, I can. Because I suspect his wage isnt that high.

He did.

I see the owners aided by their minions Suhail and Rudy are keen to make our 150th season a memorable one by getting rid of good Championship players and replacing with cheap crap from here there and everywhere which will lead to League 1. Clearly also keen to push a narrative of helplessness through the media and also Ismael. He has had question marks over man management in the past and he is happy to throw players under the bus in public if need be. People lap up his "honesty" but I suspect the squad wont appreciate it. People also seem keen to underestimate the importance of these players. Talk of Tavares off the back of one decent game against Bradford's second string being an able replacement for a midfielder who has proven to be a good Championship midfielder over a number of seasons. Hyam has never been popular but hes our best centre back and has excelled in 2 of his 3 seasons here.

I dont see how he would offer anything to any Championship club.

Things are getting prettt desperate if Emmanuel Dennis even gets a mention.

Yes it is. Wharton is a very, very good player but not Real Madrid starting 11 to replace Luka Modric standard.

We didnt create a chance of note (most we managed was a half chance for Ohashi) against West Brom, having seen them rip us apart for half an hour before retreating. I would suggest that is pretty poor.

Playing with 10 men is a risk. Not sure what McLoughlin has done to be dropped either.

We shouldnt be loaning a replacement for Travis. Nor obviously should we sign someone injured. Use a couple of loans to add additional attacking power on top of buying a right winger and any direct replacements for outgoings.

How do you know that either has a "ceiling" that is higher than a player that a player who has repeatedly proven to be a very good Championship midfielder. Baradji should be a non starter anyway if he needs an operation. And likely will be anyway for work permit reasons. Also, you say that Tavares is very highly rated. By who? I liked the look of him admittedly against a League 1 second string. But he WAS highly rated by Leicester years ago, then went to Porto and stayed with the B team aside from a brief and unsuccessful MLS loan, then was in and out at Moirinense. If he is better than Travis or even on par then its a hell of a signing.

Why does he not? We seem to be prioritising athleticism over ability. Travis does have ability (might not be a brilliant passer but no mug either) but he certainly is an athlete as well as bringing other things. Surely he suits it down to the ground.