roversfan99

Alebiosu and Kargbo are quick, not seeing much pace elsewhere.

Well I certainly wouldnt have taken a point before the game. Its a home game against a side thats nothing special, off the back of a dreadful start to the season. Unlike our overall start, its not terrible by any means, but we needed a win. On Gudjohnsen, had it been a player who had 2 really good first starts, people would be saying what a signing he looks and you wouldnt say a word. Im just speaking on what weve seen so far, hes looked crap, miles off it, has had 2 massive chances that hes totally fluffed and his poor touches have twice led indirectly to opposition goals. Im not writing him off, lets make that clear, its very early days, but he has also looked rubbish in his first 2 starts, lets not beat around the bush. Lets hope he improves and fast. Did I think Hedges was "very good" or man of the match? No to both. I dont recall anything he did going forward in terms of quality. Plodded up and down without threatening. Its been a really poor start to the season heading into the second international break. 2 wins, 6 losses and a draw. I dont see much to be optimistic about at the moment.

Ultimately its another poor result that leaves us with less points that games played in what is a start that at any other club would leave the manager in massive jeapordy. The fixtures we have had have been favourable and results very poor. For the first hour we were crap. Gudjohnsen looks like a dud of a panic buy and I dont know why he started again. The 2 wingers that came on made a difference. Fair play to Kargbo in particular. Hedges seems to now be someone that plays the full game regardless.

Ismael thought we played well v Swansea. Only he thought that, but still.

You are avoiding the question. If he only returned in April and played 5 games and did well, would that make it a good signing, according to your logic. The question is whether it makes sense to sign someone with a serious injury. Even if he is good, he misses a big chunk of the season. Tavares is crap. And the cup game doesnt count for you judging Ismael so im not sure what the rules are there. TGH is average.

But merely knowing something doesnt justify it. We knew Steve Kean was being appointed manager. We knew Owen Coyle was being appointed manager. We knew that Wharton was being bundled out of the door. Doesnt justify any of those. Im asking a simple question, do you think its sensible to sign a player (in a position where we have lost our captain) who we know in advance will be out for months?

No loss as he isnt a Championship standard player these days. But another really shrewd bit of business. Did we know he was injured when he signed?

You havent said your opinion on ("the plan of" signing a player out injured for months. You have done your usual routine of going round arguing with people who criticise the club, without committing to saying that you agree with the decision.

I also moan about the horrendous way in which the club is run regularly, because it is warranted. So to clarify, you have no problem with us signing him (a replacement for our captain) despite a long term injury, because they explained as such when he signed?

Again, the same points. What makes you so insistent that Ismael has specifically picked this bloke out from a relegated Swiss team as the specific player he wants? You cant possibly know that. But either way, thinking that the manager should pick which players he was doesnt mean that I have to agree with every individual player. Signing a player you know is out for months is an absolutely ridiculous move, whoever has decided it. I know they knew about the injury, I know that we were told about the injury, it doesnt mean that it any less ridiculous. Its only you that cant bring yourself to criticise it. You seem to think that because they knew he was injured, and because they told us, the deal is immune to criticism. If they knowingly signed a 60 year old and told us that they were doing so, that wouldnt be normal either.

I know we did. Which makes the deal an absolutely stupid one to do. Im guessing based on the above that you dont agree that signing a player with a long term injury in an area where we have lost our captain is stupid?

It doesnt really matter as the games are pointless. But Wharton in, Foden in, Bellingham in. Lots of players in there that dont deserve to be. Loftus Cheek a standout.

Baradji is doing well and in "10 days" we will have a timeframe. What a joke of a signing.

Obviously idiots shouldnt be abusing him online. But his effort levels in the lead up to the winner midweek were totally unacceptable. Play crap and people can let you off. Dont try, its hard to.

The whole ground could be underwater and chaddy would predict the game could carry on. "Its only a bit of rain FFS."

He repeatedly showed at Spurs that he doesnt have a plan B. Changing your formation doesnt mean its a plan B. To replace Nuno with Ange was a ridiculous move. I would never have appointed him. But I do find it interesting how 6 games is "FFS have time and patience" territory (why would I need patience judging the Forest manager) but 7 games for Ismael is enough to judge?

On what planet is a friendly v Wales necessary next week? That squad is a farce.

Theyve definitely downgraded though. Forest do have a strong side that theyve massively bolstered this summer.

The Forest fans are already signing "you're getting sacked in the morning" to Ange after an embarassing defeat at home in Europe. Marinakis is a prick but to be fair, his ambition and spending you cannot fault. But hes had a shocker replacing Nuno with that clown.

I think the terrible summer window sums up the issues we have in basically every area of the pitch in terms of selection. In defence, we had one of the better back 4s in the league last season. Now, as a result of one solitary injury to a player who is always injured anyway, we are left with 2 centre backs, one of whom needs nursing, and both are left footed so we will be left with a full back at centre back again. No wonder we look so likely to concede. In midfield, we brought in 3 players and none come close to filling the "replacable" Travis void. The loanee we desperately took last minute from the B team of a side in League 1 last season is the default pitch. The other 2 include a player in Tavares who is terrible and another who the other day on the team photo still has his foot in a brace. Attack is as problematic an area as any. We simply do not look like scoring very often despite signing numerous players. We signed 2 in De Neve and Henriksson who often sit on the bench despite needing a goal in favour of not using all of our subs. Hedges after the excitement of his seasonal goal has regressed to the mean and the less said about Kargbo the better. Morishita has shown flashes but often has struggled to get involved. And we will likely go back to our very average striker having seen our fancy new one having been happily waved away by his Belgian club show his inability to control a ball.

Its obviously far beyond that the football "isnt as good as it was." Thats a provocative and unnecessary angle. Its a shame from both sides that people have to "feel sorry" for those making the opposite decision to themselves.

But he still then still finish 5th, they finished 21st the season before. So even if some foundations were in place, he did very well in his season there. I totally agree that it is very much the exception to the rule in terms of his career and hes a crap manager but he had a good season. Did they flip a coin for every result that year? He did really well at Barnsley. Dont have to pretend he didnt to justify the opinion that hes a poor manager. Coyle did a good job at Burnley and hes even worse.

By Barnsley fans, do you mean that one mate who "played at a high level?" He finished 5th which was a very, very impressive achievement considering the size of the club. Its very difficult not to rate that particular season, maybe theres some resentment that he left. His career since has been a shit show, I dont think hes a good manager and that Barnsley season was a while a go and quite probably a one off. But I dont get this angle that he wasnt rated by the fans of a club where for once in his career, he actually did really well.

6 defeats from 8 in all competitions.

That doesnt have to mean defending most if not everything they do, avoiding or skirting around topics concerning the indefensible and making out that everything is good.