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It doesn’t seem that long ago (80’s) that the promotion places were between Oxford, Portsmouth and Rovers. We had some good battles with them all. 1-1 draw today, safe trip to all the fans making the trip.

Remember Bellamy scoring two belters down there in better days. Last visit was particularly depressing.

Actual attendance on Tuesday was 5670.

we hav`nt got a great record at fratton park from my memory,though 3 points today will be massive,said before the relegation places will between oxford,portsmouth and ourselves,given that sheff wed are already gone and norwich will surely improve

If it wasn’t important there wouldn’t be any players on six figure sums per week.

I dont think I am the one who is being naive to suggest that money is still important to people earning well above an average wage.

Do we have a link to that? Because I remember after that was said, @Kjell posted this post, which said that in another Norwegian podcast Tronstad said:- I want to stay abroad for as long as possible. I’d really like to stay at Rovers, I enjoy it a lot there. I have NOT received any contract offer from Rovers, there have only been some informal conversations. Now I can’t find links to any podcast so don’t believe either view over the other, but the Elliot Jackson article about Tronstadt over the summer quotes Rudy as saying he wants to leave for personal reasons, and I don’t believe Rudy.

I think Waggott was a poor CEO. I think Mowbray was an ok manager who did a decent job, but certainly had a number of flaws. I think Anderson was a leech and out of the 4 certainly have the most disdain for, he cant be compared to managers/executives/board members (bar maybe Suhail). And I think Coyle was a dreadful manager. I dont think they shouldnt all be judged on what they have done at the club. I just am not naive enough to think that the architecht of our downsizing is anyone but the owners. I think your deflection of blame away stems around your warped logic about how "their financial clout" impacts us. They merely offset the losses every year by raising share capital or debt. The same as all Championship owners, none of then have a choice. Norwich, Swansea, Preston, QPR, the list goes on although i doubt their fans praise them for it. You seem to view it as if at the start of the year, they go heres £20m see what you can do with this.

jdt said wahlstadt needed to develop,it`s manager speak for "he`s useless and not good enough for this level",you can apply what jdt said about our former calamity keeper to what val has said about sidnei,he is`nt good enough,even the diminishing number watching at ewood can tell you that it`s always an indication of a player out of his level when they get rid of the ball as quickly as possible and then you don`t notice they are actually on the pitch,i,e vale,telalovic,sidnei,jason lowe,goulon,hope akpan

"Very certain" is a bold statement. The reasoning/theory for this should be shared, or the language reconsidered.

No you’re right, people with money aren’t bothered at all about making more money.

He said during a podcast during the summer with the Norwegian press.

Who says he will take Wolves up after they get relegate given its complete rebuild with a new squad need and gelling quickly to get up, plus will the financial support be there to do that? Who knows but promotion on a CV is better than relegation on it. You act like he is great financial difficulty, feck me. Talk about naivety

Where I may have differed from many people over the years was that rather than simply wanting to chase the owners out of town straightaway I thought the ideal scenario would have been to combine their financial clout with proper people running the Club on the ground. I dont have to like the owners, I'm not going to invite them round for dinner or anything, I just want the Club to properly funded to give them a chance of being successful. Unfortunately we never got to the situation where competitive funding married up with competent ambitious people on the ground. Anderson, Singh etc burnt their way through money like it was going out of fashion initially, Waggott and Mowbray wasted the period when they still retained a bit of an interest plodding along feathering their own nests. It was always going to happen that the owners' interest would fizzle out sooner or later and by the time we lucked upon a couple of outstanding candidates in JDT and Eustace, the taps had been well and truly turned off. Out of curiosity, as you dont seem to blame Waggott or Mowbray for anything, then using the same logic do you absolve say Anderson or Coyle from any blame? After all, it's all the owners fault and said people were acting under their auspices and with the tools they'd been given at the time.

Do the Venkys actually know the real depth of resentment amongst the fans to their Tenure? What info are they being fed at Boardroom and Management level by individuals who are pro Venkys for no other reason than to line their own pockets with money.The self preservation society. All fine Mrs D,nothing to see here...another contract extension my good acolyte!

2-0 Rovers

No. It was to hit the net without it bouncing. That was our captain.

With a fully fit Aussie squad and a fully fit English squad, very few of our team make a combined eleven based on the stats. Especially away from home. Therefore it was imperative to focus on and do the basics extremely well. Which we have failed to do spectacularly. Our fitness and concentration has been very poor across all disciplines. Our specialist batting has been pathetic, our fielding and catching atrocious and our bowling lacks consistency, guile, options and penetration. Only Stokes and Root have performed to any sort of par, but we needed much more from both in the abscence of any sort of contribution from the majority. I don't see how this improves for the remaining tests. My only hope is it doesn't totally disintegrate. The Aussies will get better and we will become more tired, demoralised and jaded. From this point on Crawley, Duckett, Pope and Smith are playing for their future. Brook needs to stop believing his own hype. Root and Stokes as usual need to be world class. I am cutting the bowlers some slack as only getting 35 overs rest between innings and trying to constantly defend 150 is depressing watching on tv, let alone trying to pull it off. Yes we were crap before Bazball. Yes we are crap now. And......? Scooping, switch hitting, charging the bowler, driving on the up, hooking, hitting across the line, hitting in the air should all be banned unless youve got 100 on the board, or match curcumstances dictate. And instead of getting pissed on a beach, practice your fucking catching instead.

Perhaps the target was to hit the bar ?

Ive never said that they shouldnt be criticised. But you have historically deflected from the owners. It isnt in my head as lots of other people have pointed it out over the years. If Waggott was the "architecht" of the downsizing, and what has happened since his departure was because of his work. What happened for over 7 years before he was appointed? If your argument is that the owners dont care and want to pass the blame away to people closer to home. Then surely Suhail would be the architecht, having been here before, during and after Waggott and with seemingly more power.

Wonder what he thinks of this.

That's rich coming from the person who is currently one of the first ones to shoot down any criticism of the Club. You're not wrong with the above statement. However the modus operandi has changed considerably, in the early days they pissed money up the wall like it was going out of fashion. Then bruised by that they went to the other extreme and we're now penny pinching our way into oblivion which was Waggott's MO.

'Family reasons' all rather convenient at the club that won't extend the contract of anyone and cuts/reduces/offloads wherever possible. Proof will be in the pudding but I'd be surprised if he's playing in the Norwegian league come next year.

I imagine its to give the U18s the best chance possible to go as far as possible in this competition. Also, despite the hype I don't think at the moment he's anywhere near good enough or ready to he around the first team. It is important to remember he's only 17 years old though.

Im with chaddy on this one. Thought it was a strange move for Edwards to make. Other than a short term boost to his finances, couldnt really see any upside to it and he might end up making himself unemployable in the long run.