So how do young players come through to first team squad then? Good job Adam Wharton pathway wasn't blocked by senior player isn't it. Why can't you have 25 man with Michalski, Montgomery and Tyjon part of that squad?

I think I will be in a minority but I think it's really nice. It gives some identity to the town.

Adam Wharton does not make Spurs title challengers.

We are nowhere near FFP limits. And pretty easy to say that we would be better off without Venkys.

How do young players get through to first team squad? How are they meant to develop and get used to first team tactic unless you play them and get them training with the first team like Ismael and JDT. So I take it you don't agree with Ismael creating a pathway for Tyjon to play and develop here?

We didn’t get £30m…we got £20m…. And some on here defended it!

15% of the profit I think was suggested…. So 15% of £80m…..£12m ish

Do we care how they come across? The last guy was a very good manager and that’s all I want from them.

FFP and they way the big boys have changed everything has destroyed so much. I agree that Venkys have been horrible owners in a lot of aspects, but it is impossible to say if we would be better off with other owners or the existing owners. Football has changed a lot the last decade and unfortunately in favour of the big few. Just look at Club World cup. Its farcical. Donald Trump handing over a throphy in a meaningless cup. Makes me puke.

Seeing as you posted before this, and avoided my question, why did you say this was a terrible signing?

I thought it looked alright in the flesh, to be fair. The green is infinitely better and I’m not a massive fan of the dark shades on the sleeves, but otherwise it’s alright. VI was present this morning and came across really well, to be fair. Seems open and honest, which is completely different to the last guy and his generic soundbites.

My mind may be changing, I can’t decide if it’s utterly horrible or I quite like it I predict that like the pink it will sell well and become a bit of a cult classic, reminds me more of a third kit though

Rovers losses makes sense, I assumed you meant Venkys own business losses, and taking money out of the club, not putting it in. Commercial is the obvious one, aka overall income / turnover. Better management would improve that - I’m not sure it would be enough to put us into a position to have a lot more competitive salaries though.

No, I think it was 96/97 away shirt where we narrowly avoided relegation. Had a panel down one side that had Rovers crest replicated in different sizes then repeated on one of the arms, both home and away had 'grandad collars', sponsored by CIS

Again, your first paragraph suggests that the reason you keep posting stuff like this is because you have an issue with my posts and a preconceived idea as to what I think of everything. Ive tried to point out positives and negatives of the deal and consider both sides. Overall I think its a decent enough signing.

That's why you have different lists. That's how football works. Experience Championship centre defender for low fee is a bargain. Still think we need another centre back in. Kapaudi has been not available for weeks.

Don't know much about the guy, but on the face of it this seems sensible. Decent age, plenty of champ experience, and by the sounds of it, £500k. Have to see how he does, like all players we sign, but it seems low risk and logical to me.

You make a lot of content, it’s difficult not to see your stuff first. It’s invariably revisionist, goal post moving stuff that just irks, and as you know, has done for probably a decade. Decent signing, we’d agree - that’s the neutral observation. We needed and wanted a left sided centreback, he’s at peak, cheaper than he’s probably worth. I don’t see any issue.

yes, going to both and hopefully we be meeting up with a few friends there.

Peter Gabriel - The Book Of Love

Every year Venkys have to find somewhere between 10 and 20 million to keep their regime going here. Adam Wharton's sale meant that they saved that money. And yes, a large chunk (not all) of Rovers' losses are a direct result of Venkys and their continuing mismanagement and neglect, which is another reason it wouldn't cost £20 million a year to fund Rovers under proper owners.

Indeed. We cant just build a smaller squad and assume numerous graduates can have a breakthrough season similtaneously. It puts far too much pressure on them when we have no idea if they are currently ready, and its very unlikely that they all will be.

It isnt bullshit at all. We have been bidding for Kapuadi for ages, before considering the likes of Sagnan and Nade. Doesnt mean that they dont rate McLoughlin or that he wont be a good signing. Never said he isnt well regarded by our scouts. We clearly had a top target whose price was too much for us. If you cant get your main targets you work down your list.

He's played like 2 games and got sent off in the game he started. I think you're overstating how much of an impact he can make...