I was talking more Glens recollection

Yeah, it is staggering the lack of fight, determination or anything from those interviews. In the past we've expected decent players to leave -if- a very good offer has come in but we've had managers talking about the importance of those players, being keen to keep them, building around them etc. Not now, the white flag is flying over Brockhall. Come and get them. Here it is just shrug shoulders, we've made an offer, they aren't taking it so they either get sold now or leave for free. Worryingly he almost seems keen on the sale option under the apprehension that it will allow for reinvestment. Must have been the shortest ever contract negotiations with these players. As of March / April all 3 of Travis, Tronstad and Brittain were very clear that there had been zero discussions about it, with the club saying that it would only happen at the end of the season once budgets and league status were known, and now by the start of August negotiations have failed. So at best perhaps 12 weeks of a period during which the players were away on holiday. Impressive speed there. Or perhaps the negotiations have been all of a phone call to tell them we aren't offering them improved terms and probably not even what they are on at present, therefore not even worthy of being called an offer.

They are… https://s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/gc-media-assets.gc.roversservices.co.uk/36515ad0-7437-11f0-a740-4f31ea861e61.pdf

They’re on the club website… https://s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/gc-media-assets.gc.roversservices.co.uk/36515ad0-7437-11f0-a740-4f31ea861e61.pdf

Charlie Olson has moved on loan to League 2 Oldham

If Ryan Hedges ends up being the first "significant" contract renewal in +2.5yrs...

I agree and after all said and done, he only needs to reply ask Pasha and his number will be up, if he does decide to leave with a nice fat pay cheque an NDA his arm. He might want to go back to France, as he is missing the the Frogs legs and Escargot.

Dear Mr Balaji Rao, Just a quick heartfelt note, to wish you and your family, all the best in these turbulent times. It isn't easy running a chicken business, but rest assured that all of us Rovers fans, are eating as much chicken as we can, not to mention eggs and other related products. We will continue to monitor your share price and your sector daily, but we can guarantee we are all 100% behind you and will ensure our baby is still alive and kicking as the years tick buy. Yours Mr A R Bot.

And then have the sheer nerve to reinvest some of that in new players. Anybody would think there is a model to follow there. Unfortunately our illustrious owners seem to only understand the first part.

They run Rovers via the VH group profits though that is clearly how it's done and must provide some handy accounting benefits back in India. It's 15 years now since they bought Rovers so allowing for inflation, expansion, borrowings and the cost base explosion of raw materials needed to run that business profits are bound to be hit. It doesn't matter what it or they are worth they don't use their personal wealth unfortunately it is imo all about the profit from the core company and this isn't defending them it's just the reality of how things are done. Would be interesting seeing if there is any real correlation between share price/profit of VH group and the money they've chucked into Rovers. I'm sure i recall share prices at historical highs when they were allowing the Armstrong's and Gallagher's to be bought but i may be wrong. They have seemed to like funding a mass loss making overseas entity for some reason until recently though.

Was it not fairly widely reported? Maybe Balaji gave him yet another reprieve.

I mentioned that they should give the LT a shout as they’d reported it. They seemed surprised.

Cheap, low wages, no championship experience, and no other clubs in for him. I'd say it's a very credible link on that basis. Although he does look like a decent player tbf.

@glen9mullan is Elliott reluctant to post anything coalition led? Andy Cryer did a great headline. It would be amazing if we could get him and Andy Byers to do a headline about wanting Suhail out? Not seen anything around the differences in fans forum minutes either?

On the fans.

I mean we run Hedges out there every week. I consider that cruel too.

Venky's share price is 10x what it was when they bought the club. The VH Group conglomerate and the personal wealth of the Raos is huge. There's money but there's no intention of spending it on Rovers.

He was demonstrably out of favour and a bit out of form, so we got lowballed by a club who had no money anyway and probably scared them off with our asking price. Then he had a very good season after. Think we would have no issues getting 2 million. 3 might be a more drawn out and potentially unsuccessful affair, but that would be my asking price. If we were actually going to reinvest a bit.

Ismael's press conference hinted at players needing "minutes" to get them upto speed. So imagine the likes of Pickering, Wharton, Kargbo, Montgomery, Gueye etc will all start.

Yes I did read it - I think your points are very good - it’s just impossible to know from the regs whether the panel would think the same. Agree on your domestic youth player comment, I was just trying to work out their thinking regarding giving so many points for a debut.

BOURNEMOUTH have sold three defenders to Liverpool Real Madrid PSG this summer for a combined 150m!!!

What I meant is I outlined in the other post (dunno if you saw it) why I think we'd have a very good case at an appeals panel. I think it would constitute exceptional circumstances personally. As for Pasha, the more likely we are to not be able to do the purchase after dragging it out, the more 5k will look like a bargain to him 😂🤡 You would have thought that. I'd also have thought they'd be interested in protecting domestic youth players getting their own opportunities.

Err.....Cheers- I think! 🤣

Would imagine Tronstad.

Made offers to "at least 3" of the 4 players. As we know one of them was Hedges, wonder who was the odd one out?