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They remain convinced that big crowds under this lot would automatically mean better players, wages payable and form. Somehow they chose to miss the rather obvious correlation that wages cuts,player sales, doubling of losses and managed decline began the min they took over with gates of 25k and Prem/Parachute income. Ok a lot are too young to remember or maybe grasp these very basic facts but the others ... ? They are in their own world of denial for some reason.

Harold Dorman - Mountain Of Love

if you get rid of players because you won`t pay them the going rate then replace them with ones who arn`t as good ,you will go down the leagues,it matters not if the crowd is 30000 or 300,i can`t understand why some of our fans can`t see the fact that venkys have continually dismanted the playing staff from the moment they arrived

Yet half our own fanbase remain oblivious to or just shrug the shoulders 'well if everyone turned up every week..' type stuff. Well they did didn't they for the first few years of this bollocks and it didn't make a jot of difference.

Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes - Bad Luck

Behaved badly, bowled badly, fielded badly, batted badly, prepared badly, organised badly, managed badly...yet still people make excuses for the pathetic results. I'm not sure what folk don't understand. Try acting like that in your own job, putting in a succession of below par work shy performances, a few short days / lazy weeks and wander in stinking of booze. Cry about it on here when you lose your employment. In the meantime, Crawley averaging 27, Duckett 20, Pope 20, Stokes 18 and Smith 23 are the main reason we lost the ashes. Useless. We gave the bowlers no respite or rest and nothing at all to bowl at. Duckett averaged 16 until the final test. Crawley out four times for a duck. Average opening partnership of 20.I'm not sure what folk don't understand. Bethal has come in with zero experience, scored over 200 runs averaging over 50. There's absolutely nothing to lose with a more professional approach to international cricket and a total re-set. Our vice captain / white ball captain is out getting pissed the night before an ODI. Good old Brendan removed the 12 oclock player curfew. Everyone drunk mid-series in Noosa. One x 3 day game in preperation against a lions team. Wood hadn't bowled since February. Archer no fitness for a five match series, only lasted 3 tests as they were so short. Somehow Stokes limped across the finish line. Three of Australias main bowlers sidelined. Half their top six batsmen struggling. Robert Key stated we had been at 20% of our abilities. They have beaten us easily with four players. All Bazball has achieved is to alienate the average cricket fan, damage a number of younger players, propogate a disrespectful drinking culture and stagnate us at the highest level. If i've ever got to watch Crawley and Duckett opening the batting for England again im going to go mental. Help! I'm not sure what folk don't understand.

In my experience we usually bottle it in front of a big crowd, outside of the glory years, especially away from home.

He's more aware than plenty of our own fans.

Think I'll wait till the lineups are out before I decide whether or not to watch. A few debutants from the academy might make it a bit more interesting, otherwise I'm not sure I'll bother. I do want to go through purely in hope of a decent tie next round to add a bit of interest to the season.

Why would the owners put us into admin and create s forced sale? Easier to sell isn't it? You think that you continuing to attend will save the club? Its on a downward trajectory yet the owners are billionaires!] What's the use of them?

Just listening to some of the away followings today: 5000 Boro at Fulham 7000 Exeter at City 7000 Sunderland at Everton 7000 Villa at Spurs Its clear the fans hold FA Cup in high regard.

Yes I know all about that, he was targeted and went to prison. I’d have been in full support of Ricky at the time, it’s more recently I don’t agree with his politics, but I can separate that from the man today.

I’m not sure he’s that good, but I’m also adamant if he was under contract longer he would have featured at some point instead of Henriksson and Diamini up front. If we did go down it would be more mismanagement.

No for me, basically 😂

I think If you have a TNT subscription with Sky, you get Discovery + for free, so "yes, but no", or is it "no but yes"?

Is the game even on sky?

If he was any good, he would have made the breakthrough into our first team, irrespective of his contract situation. My bet is that if he makes a move to a big club, he will never get a game in their first team. Notwithstanding that, the contract will no doubt set him up for life and so not sure that we can blame him, more especially given current state of our club !

Man Utd now in the race to sign Igor Tyjon.

Discovery + subscription, dodgy fire stick, or dodgy stream 😉

Apologies if this had already been asked, but apart from Sky is there any way of watching this game tomorrow?

And you will be thinking that is the fault of the fans?

Ill post it, when we're in league 1, with nobody turning up for matches.

Short term effort for long term results. It's about the future now.

Just for context, the above is what passes for a 21st Century stadium these days. Makes me puke to think how pathetic Rovers current situation is, relative to where they might have been, had the chicken wankers actually invested in the club these past 15 years. Hang your head in shame, Rao brothers and sisters. Your incompetence, ignorance and petulance are the laughing stock of the football world. Now, fuck off. VENKYS OUT!

Due to my ongoing pettiness, I will neither watching nor attending after Hull let me get to the Humber Bridge before cancelling a game on Boxing Day. I hate Hull.