Venky’s (& Suhail) Out Protest Ideas

[chaddyrovers]

2 hours ago, StHelensRover said:

I'd be really interested to know what the main decision is for those who go as to why they're not prepared to boycott, ones I can think of myself are:

- the owners don't care and it won't work

- not fair on the players

- it's really important part of my routine or the routine of my dependents (e.g. children, elderly or vulnerable) which I cannot forgo, even for one game

- I don't care about what happens off the pitch, I just 'back the boys' no matter what

- No one tells me what to do

That last one in bold is something I heard a few people saying at Ewood on Saturday, that included people who chant against the owners etc. I don't really understand that last one, just sounds like oppositional defiance. 

For each of those above reasons not to boycott, it's hard to get a message or interaction across that can interact with each point and put something convincing across without attracting hostile responses. I sympathise with the coalition on that point, it's very difficult 

very good post and can I respect your choices you have made and how hard this decision is. Its not easy decision for anyone. 

The reasons I will continue to attend and not do a boycott are these, I have been going since August 1993 and I have been STH for over 25 years, I won't allow the owners to stop supporting my team. This is my main social activity with my bro and nephew. Plus my missus went through Cancer in the last 18 months and that told us, never stop enjoying life and doing the activities you enjoy doing cos none of us know how long we got in life. The players need support and backing from the fans. 

Can I please say again, I fully respect anyone decision who has decided to walked away, or boycott games. That must be very hard decision to do and I respect that one, we all have connects to Rovers and we are all Blackburn Rovers supporters at the end of the day. COYB 🔵⚪

Edited 8 hours ago by chaddyrovers

[RevidgeBlue]

38 minutes ago, Exiled in Toronto Mk2 said:

All of those responses, in the minds of the people making them, are completely rational. Telling people to ignore what they think and act based on what someone else thinks was never going to be well received. It’s fundamentally bad strategy to call for something you can’t deliver, as not delivering it makes the Coalition look unrepresentative and ineffective.

We don't know if it can be delivered or not.

Judging by Saturday's attendance many have taken up the call to arms already.

Edited 7 hours ago by RevidgeBlue

[RevidgeBlue]

10 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

very good post and can I respect your choices you have made and how hard this decision is. Its not easy decision for anyone. 

The reasons I will continue to attend and not do a boycott are these, I have been going since August 1993 and I have been STH for over 25 years, I won't allow the owners to stop supporting my team. This is my main social activity with my bro and nephew. Plus my missus went through Cancer in the last 18 months and that told us, never stop enjoying life and doing the activities you enjoy doing cos none of us know how long we got in life. The players need support and backing from the fans. 

Can I please say again, I fully respect anyone decision who has decided to walked away, or boycott games. That must be very hard decision to do and I respect that one, we all have connects to Rovers and we are all Blackburn Rovers supporters at the end of the day. COYB 🔵⚪

You don't need to go to such lengths to justify your attendance. It's not compulsory to attend, nor is it compulsory to participate in a boycott.

Imo the factors you mention above are all plausible reasons for justifying your attendance in general but do not really address why you're unwilling to miss even a single match to make a point.

Hope your wife has made a full recovery BTW.

[Roverthechimp]

14 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

We don't know if it can be delivered or not.

Judging by Saturday's attendance many have already taken up the call to arms already.

I suspect there are people who will say that a boycott is only a success if NOBODY attends at all and that is improbable if not impossible. In my opinion a boycott will be a success if the following happens:

1 - it is a noticeable reduction in attendance 

2 - it makes mainstream media beyond a token "and this is Bob who is protesting against the owners - cue interview"

[chaddyrovers]

16 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

You don't need to go to such lengths to justify your attendance. It's not compulsory to attend, nor is it compulsory to participate in a boycott.

Imo the factors you mention above are all plausible reasons for justifying your attendance in general but do not really address why you're unwilling to miss even a single match to make a point.

Hope your wife has made a full recovery BTW.

I explained my reasons why I won't boycott/missed games. @StHelensRoverpost was a very good one and I respect that post

I respect your reasons for not attending. 

Thankyou for the last comment, much apprenticed 

Edited 7 hours ago by chaddyrovers

[Mattyblue]

What’s still to cut? Cut the wage bill further (Cantwell? get shut of those wages), close the Riverside, downgrade the Academy, have another go at putting houses on Brockhall, loads to go at.

[RevidgeBlue]

3 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

What’s still to cut? Cut the wage bill further (Cantwell? get shut of those wages), close the Riverside, downgrade the Academy, have another go at putting houses on Brockhall, loads to go at.

All technically possible of course, but we're barely competitive as it is, so any further cutbacks would almost certainly lead to loss of Championship status.

[toogs]

53 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

All technically possible of course, but we're barely competitive as it is, so any further cutbacks would almost certainly lead to loss of Championship status.

I’m not sure our owners give a shit what league we are in anymore. The lower the league, the cheaper the operation. 
 

 

[Armchair supporter supremo]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

very good post and can I respect your choices you have made and how hard this decision is. Its not easy decision for anyone. 

The reasons I will continue to attend and not do a boycott are these, I have been going since August 1993 and I have been STH for over 25 years, I won't allow the owners to stop supporting my team. This is my main social activity with my bro and nephew. Plus my missus went through Cancer in the last 18 months and that told us, never stop enjoying life and doing the activities you enjoy doing cos none of us know how long we got in life. The players need support and backing from the fans. 

Can I please say again, I fully respect anyone decision who has decided to walked away, or boycott games. That must be very hard decision to do and I respect that one, we all have connects to Rovers and we are all Blackburn Rovers supporters at the end of the day. COYB 🔵⚪

🎻 🎻 🎻 🎻 🎻 🎻 🎻 🎻 

 

What flannel. 

 

So basically.... "- I don't care about what happens off the pitch, I just 'back the boys' no matter what" 

Edited 6 hours ago by Armchair supporter supremo

[JHRover]

I admire anyone who can turn around after the events of the last 2-3 years and say that hand on heart they have been enjoying it. 

I suppose this takes us back to those who have the ability to ignore/set aside the off the pitch nonsense and focus purely on 11 lads running around on matchday, and their matchday 'experience', and those of us who don't have that ability and cannot help but become embroiled in the rest of it, knowing that there is something inherently wrong with the club and struggling to get past that fact. 

Personally it has filled me with dismay and rage at the way the club has operated and continues to operate, and unfortunately that has overridden any pleasure that there is to be had from watching games. The sad but inevitable consequence of that is to conclude that it isn't enjoyable. And when you reach that conclusion the obvious question is why do it?

Even when JDT and Eustace had us competing at the top end and I started to enjoy it again it was burdened with the knowledge that our 'custodians' were always going to bring it to a swift end.

[RevidgeBlue]

1 hour ago, toogs said:

I’m not sure our owners give a shit what league we are in anymore. The lower the league, the cheaper the operation. 
 

 

First part, you're probably right.

Second part, I doubt it is in real terms once you've taken away the Championship TV money.

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6 hours ago, StHelensRover said:

The best thing you can do is to use the mute feature. I'm going to take part in the Watford boycott and I am having to seriously consider season ticket renewal after 27 consecutive seasons. However, the responses I've now seen on here, social media more widely in addition what I've heard down at Ewood at the weekend have left me resigned to the fact that it won't work and that many people are going to ignore it. There are certain people on this message board who probably cannot wait for it to fail and you're best muting them. 

Nothing can fail if what you're doing is sending a message out. 

Failure is for those who believe in it.

[glen9mullan]

Whats always interesting reading social media is the loudest voices of opposition to change in the main don't actually go Ewood. I find it incredible on X in particular the opposition to boycotting is from supporters who aint actually going or have never been. 

As a season ticket holder they've had my money already, but on average i spend over a £100 per game at the ground, across parking, club shop, children flag bearing and refreshments for me and the family. That's the first tap , ive turned off.  

Looking through my bank statements, i've spent (not including season tickets or fuel) £2146.00 this season. In the new year thats halfway to a holiday and wont be going in the clubs til in any capacity.

As a supporter of 47 years, i've seen the good, the bad and the ugly but this time its different. No connection, no goosebumps and a club/ownership who dont give a f***, about the fans.

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2 hours ago, Armchair supporter supremo said:

🎻 🎻 🎻 🎻 🎻 🎻 🎻 🎻 

 

What flannel. 

 

So basically.... "- I don't care about what happens off the pitch, I just 'back the boys' no matter what" 

Which is the marshmallow, wrapped in cotton wool, many these days. What happened to people wanting more out the club? We want owners that care that's all. We don't want to be pumped up to touch the number 1 spot in the Prem. We want ambition, integrity, trust and above all, we want people that believe in success of the most famous Town team in footballing history. Yea we are. Don't care about any other team.

We can go on supporting the lads on the pitch that'll never stop no matter how hopeless but for no attempt to better ourselves other than do everything on a very scrupulous budget for 15 years is unforgivable 

[Mattyblue]

Social media is the Wild West, obviously the crux of the whole thing is getting a critical mass of that 9,000 or so that will (actually) attend for a 3pm Saturday game to not do so.

Does the Coalition still think that will happen? As I have very big doubts after the conversations I had on Saturday and since.
 

[RoversClitheroe]

1 hour ago, glen9mullan said:

Whats always interesting reading social media is the loudest voices of opposition to change in the main don't actually go Ewood. I find it incredible on X in particular the opposition to boycotting is from supporters who aint actually going or have never been. 

As a season ticket holder they've had my money already, but on average i spend over a £100 per game at the ground, across parking, club shop, children flag bearing and refreshments for me and the family. That's the first tap , ive turned off.  

Looking through my bank statements, i've spent (not including season tickets or fuel) £2146.00 this season. In the new year thats halfway to a holiday and wont be going in the clubs til in any capacity.

As a supporter of 47 years, i've seen the good, the bad and the ugly but this time its different. No connection, no goosebumps and a club/ownership who dont give a f***, about the fans.

A real problem, as you probably know Glen, is it appears someone is paying for pro Venkys/ pro board bots on X and also Facebook.

I think WATR would benefit from fighting fire with fire.

[Tomphil2]

Bots are easy to spot they reply real fast and almost instantly start patronising and use first names.

The profiles are a scream as well.

Probably California Rovers bot farm.

[47er]

The boycott may not be successful but it has to be tried. In reality thousands have just got out of the habit of attending anyway and probably realised how much money they are saving on a lost cause.

It'll be joined by more over the summer when many don't renew. That is a boycott of sorts.

Sadly  it all seems to be leading to a tragic ending where  fans have to pick up the pieces and start all over again.

The only question for me is how many years of suffering do we endure till that happens. I don't think I have that many left!

Edited 1 hour ago by 47er

[Mattyblue]

It’s going to be ‘officially’ tried, but c6,000 will still be in the ground, not a million miles off what we’ve seen in the past couple of months anyway.

So what are we getting from it over and above what has already been happening?

Edited 1 hour ago by Mattyblue

[RevidgeBlue]

 

20 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

So what are we getting from it over and above what has already been happening?

To flip that on it's head, what's the worst that can happen?

The boycott doesnt get a particularly good take up, BUT the cause receives some media attention and we're no worse off than if nothing had happened.

[StHelensRover]

Do people think the club will pull out all the stops to entice people to the Watford game? Slash prices, bring a mate, kids for a quid, family fun day, tons of free tickets to local schools etc?

If they suspect only a few hundred will actually boycott, they might be able to plug that gap with a big one-off push/giveaway, so that they can then point and say there was no drop in attendance, no boycott, etc. That is something I would do, if I was in that position.

Let's say real home attendance circa 6k, but 500-1k boycott. Imagine they could claw most of those back in other sales if they offered hundreds of free tickets and had a huge one-off ticket deal.

Edited 1 hour ago by StHelensRover

[Mattyblue]

Gets some media attention for a little bit, fair enough. That Daniel Storey article was very good. But of course the media cycle moves on in a week or two and as the regime will have just stayed in their submarine till it dies down they’ll just shrug it off.

The ‘official boycott’ on its own terms will do nothing a savvy media campaign would do anyway - like we saw last season with the three stooges in their hostage video - but what it has done has lost the Coalition a lot of ground with the majority of match goers, which is kind of the opposite of what they were aiming for.

[M_B]

6 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

You don't need to go to such lengths to justify your attendance. It's not compulsory to attend, nor is it compulsory to participate in a boycott.

Imo the factors you mention above are all plausible reasons for justifying your attendance in general but do not really address why you're unwilling to miss even a single match to make a point.

Hope your wife has made a full recovery BTW.

The boycott would look even more effective if the game before against Charlton was a sell out,see what you're missing sort of thing. 

So if everyone who hasn't attended a game for God knows how long could possibly turn out for Charlton in early January that would be brilliant, come on, let's sell it out and show them what they're missing. 

After all, it's only one game. 

 

[rigger]

1 hour ago, Tomphil2 said:

Bots are easy to spot they reply real fast and almost instantly start patronising and use first names.

The profiles are a scream as well.

Probably California Rovers bot farm.

If the club try to off-set the boycott by giving away tickets, then publish this fact (maybe over-estimate the facts) and see what the clubs reaction is. They don't seem to be good in these situations.

[Giant]

A lot of the folk pushing for a boycott won’t have been on Ewood all season, so if they don’t go against Watford they aren’t really boycotting. The reality is that many people have been boycotting for years under the excuse that they aren’t going again until Venkys leave. It doesn’t seem to bother the owners at all however many people are a the games.