Venky’s (& Suhail) Out Protest Ideas

[Proudtobeblue&white]

2 hours ago, Goozburger said:

Many clubs have fallen by the wayside because their owners simply stop their financial obligations. Bolton. Wigan. Sheff Wed. Oldham. I'm sure there are other examples.

If the Venky's left, I think the fan base would be united again, but it really depends on who the new owners are. If it happens, it happens, and we all go for the ride. But I would wager the next owners will have nowhere near the financial clout that the current owners have. 🤷‍♂️

But what is the point of financial clout if you don’t use it wisely?

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2 hours ago, RoversClitheroe said:

I think it's really hard to discuss on the other forum because whenever I've asked a question it's been avoided.

Everyone on there is saying why don't I go find an owner to buy Rovers?

Like come on, I don't think there's an understanding on workings at Rovers and myself not involved in football finding a buyer.

I'd say they're way way more offensive there than on here.

Drog personally attacked me when I wasn't being personal.

Wouldn't bother over there pal. Looks like a school IT project that forum

[Dreams of 1995]

2 hours ago, Gordon Gekko said:

That Thomas Freddie is doing my nut in on Facebook, not normally one to engage with the nonsense but after another demoralising defeat today I've bitten. Anyone know what his game is?!  

Wouldn’t give the guy the time of day. Genuinely think his end game could be a job at Rovers 😂

4 businesses all gone under. He was the creator of FC Rovers. Topping it all off, he’s a recruitment consultant. Or as the rest of the professional world knows them - a reptile 🐍 

[Exiled_Rover]

3 hours ago, Proudtobeblue&white said:

But what is the point of financial clout if you don’t use it wisely?

Hiring the work experience tea boy to run the entire football side of the club seems like a misstep - but I'm not a billionaire, so maybe I'm wrong.

[RoverDom]

7 hours ago, Dreams of 1995 said:

Wouldn’t give the guy the time of day. Genuinely think his end game could be a job at Rovers 😂

4 businesses all gone under. He was the creator of FC Rovers. Topping it all off, he’s a recruitment consultant. Or as the rest of the professional world knows them - a reptile 🐍 

I genuinely think he believes he's the only Rovers fan to work in the corporate sector and all the lowly blue collar workers should bow to his knowledge. He gets right under my skin but as you say its best not to give him the time of day. 

[wilsdenrover]

18 minutes ago, RoverDom said:

I genuinely think he believes he's the only Rovers fan to work in the corporate sector and all the lowly blue collar workers should bow to his knowledge. He gets right under my skin but as you say its best not to give him the time of day. 

From what I’ve read on this messageboard, he appears both arrogant and incompetent.

Makes sense he can identify with the Venkys.

[Hasta]

19 hours ago, Goozburger said:

Many clubs have fallen by the wayside because their owners simply stop their financial obligations. Bolton. Wigan. Sheff Wed. Oldham. I'm sure there are other examples.

If the Venky's left, I think the fan base would be united again, but it really depends on who the new owners are. If it happens, it happens, and we all go for the ride. But I would wager the next owners will have nowhere near the financial clout that the current owners have. 🤷‍♂️

The view on the current Rovers situation with Venkys and the money they put in depends on what you want from the football club.

Going back to good old Drog and his Lancashire United, his point was that if we are to compete regularly in the Premier League then the Lancashire clubs need to merge and form Lancashire United. The counter argument in 2005 always was (and still is now) that the clubs have separate identities. They represent Preston, Blackburn, Burnley. They may not have the resources to compete at the top of the Premier League, but I'd rather support my town team at the level they end up than some commercially-orientated manifestation. The key is the club should be doing the best it can.

At the moment Venkys can put whatever money in they want, but if they don't employ competent people in the board room and dugout then it's just being pissed away.

Let's pretend that they are putting £20million a season (or whatever, I'm not even sure if they are putting anywhere near that in with sales nowadays).

Despite this £20 million, we are fighting for survival in the Championship, have a ground being neglected, have long standing staff members leaving the club due to unhappy working conditions, falling attendances, no communication or respect with the fans, have taken out payday loans because they couldn't get money across to us due to illegal activity back in India.

We had failed transfer deadline day registrations, tried to sell off Brockhall behind the fans backs. We had two managers leave, not necessarily in my opinion because they weren't getting what they wanted but because we have no proper plan in place and they ultimately had been lied to. Mowbray, for all his faults, at least deserved to be told if he was getting a contract or not rather than just letting it run out. Players don't sign contracts and are allowed to walk free because in many cases the club won't offer them new contracts when they have a couple of years left on their current deals

The local journalist is banned from the club because, well no-one is sure but it's not because he writes loads of nasty articles against the club. The 150th anniversary, a landmark date in the clubs history, was badly planned with an (awful) kit launch 2 months after the event. We have no Sky Sports in the Blues Bar. We have a screen outside the ground in the fanzone that has a picture quality like an Atari 2600 game. 

A social media team which can't even get the most basic information right. Almost every announcement has a fault on it. Senior club staff calling people who aren't happy spice heads on social media. Our fine history? Stripped from the walls of the inside and outside of the ground. Discarded as rubbish for all to see behind the Riverside. Want to watch Rovers play live over Christmas? Sorry we don't make any money from that so we're not going to bother trying to let you buy tickets. 

Thats off the top of my head. There's probably tons of stuff I could have added and they are all in the last few years. Let's not even bring up JA and the first two years of their tenure.

It's all a shambles. If you tell me that we could end up with owners who would only put in half as much as Venkys but would be engaged with the club, would make sure the club is being run the correct way, would hold the senior leadership team off the pitch accountable and would generally show the club and it's fans respect, but we might be competing in League One, I would snap your hands off.

Some fans say that attendance aren't down because of the owners. They are down because we lose the glory hunters from the Premier League and because we don't win every week. But similarly fans allowing the complete disrespect and running down of the club to continue, just because they crave the owners £20millon a year to fight for mid table Championship placings rather than risk going down, is also a form of glory hunting.   "I don't want them to leave because we might become shitter".

Maybe we would become shitter, but at least there might be pride and respect again. If you forsake that for a few league positions, you might as well get on board with Lancashire United.

 

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[K-Hod]

13 hours ago, Gordon Gekko said:

That Thomas Freddie is doing my nut in on Facebook, not normally one to engage with the nonsense but after another demoralising defeat today I've bitten. Anyone know what his game is?!  

Don’t feed the troll, mate.

He’s only another successful diagnosis of small man syndrome, not worth it.

[Guy N. Cognito]

@JHRover was spot on with his analysis a few pages back.

There’s a subset of supporters who see themselves as the old guard, holding court and gatekeeping expectations of the post-Walker era. Not only does this give their revisionism a sense of authority, it also functions as a coping mechanism to make the current decline easier to swallow.

[KentExile]

17 hours ago, Goozburger said:

Many clubs have fallen by the wayside because their owners simply stop their financial obligations. Bolton. Wigan. Sheff Wed. Oldham. I'm sure there are other examples.

If the Venky's left, I think the fan base would be united again, but it really depends on who the new owners are. If it happens, it happens, and we all go for the ride. But I would wager the next owners will have nowhere near the financial clout that the current owners have. 🤷‍♂️

Many other clubs, when they have sold £40M+ worth of players have immediately reinvested 80% + of that income to improve the squad and ensure that they challenge further up the table

There is nothing stopping Rovers, even now (although the most opportune moment to do that would have been January 2025 when we were in the play offs... had they done so, Eustace would still be here for a start and he would not have taken half our old squad with him) from doing what Brentford have done in the past, or what Coventry did upon selling Gyokeres & Hamer, or what Boro do pretty much each and every season after selling some of their better talents (although that window of opportunity will soon be gone as it will not be long until the Wharton sale can now longer be included in the last 3 years rolling FFP)

Those clubs have ambition.  it may work out, it may not, there are no guarantees, but the odds are certainly more in their favour than Rovers purely on the basis that they are trying to improve and progress.  Rovers have so far just used money from sales to justify not sending money over from India.  And if it doesn't work out for Coventry/Boro etc, they have saleable assets on sensible contracts to recoup their investment.

It is lazy, short sighted, and as someone has said in the past( (I cant recall who to credit them with the term) Venky Rovers are "penny wise, pound foolish".   For them it is always better to save a few pennies now by not offering new contracts in a timely manner and at appropriate levels, and so instead end up throwing money away due to receiving vastly reduced amounts in the transfer market.

But then again, as has been stated by Pasha et al, sales do not impact our budget, so what does it matter anyway eh?

Those running the club are a terrible combination of disinterested & incompetent

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Full flat line is setting in. What a  shit time to be a Rovers fan. 

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[Rogerb]

39 minutes ago, Guy N. Cognito said:

@JHRover was spot on with his analysis a few pages back.

There’s a subset of supporters who see themselves as the old guard, holding court and gatekeeping expectations of the post-Walker era. Not only does this give their revisionism a sense of authority, it also functions as a coping mechanism to make the current decline easier to swallow.

Being a qualifying member of the old guard I have trouble understanding that position. I want to see my team trying to win games not add value by increasing minutes on the pitch.

[davulsukur]

1 hour ago, ... said:

Full flat line is setting in. What a  shit time to be a Rovers fan. 

As I sat watching some premier league highlights this morning whilst having my breakfast, I saw Man Utd beating their local rivals, West Ham and Leeds bagging last minute winners, Sunderland coming from behind to win and i thought, what must it be like to support a normal club?

When was the last time we had feelings from games like those fans had yesterday? 

We don't hate Venkys enough.

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18 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

As I sat watching some premier league highlights this morning whilst having my breakfast, I saw Man Utd beating their local rivals, West Ham and Leeds bagging last minute winners, Sunderland coming from behind to win and i thought, what must it be like to support a normal club?

When was the last time we had feelings from games like those fans had yesterday? 

We don't hate Venkys enough.

It's just become this numb abyss, that is unexplainable. 

Personally have no pride left talking to other football fan's of other teams. I cant and dont want to join in with football talk anymore because ive nothing to contribute. It's an awful feeling. I feel bad for those like Swindon, Wimbledon imagine ending up like those fkin hell.  It really would be game over and let's get on with our lives 

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[Mattyblue]

I was just about to post something similar.

When non-Rovers fans now come to speak to me at work or wherever, ‘poor result at the weekend’ etc, I just cannot summon the enthusiasm to even discuss it - whereas even a year ago I’d be ranting away.

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15 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

I was just about to post something similar.

When non-Rovers fans now come to speak to me at work or wherever, ‘poor result at the weekend’ etc, I just cannot summon the enthusiasm to even discuss it - whereas even a year ago I’d be ranting away.

There's literally nothing to chirp back with is there. I've really burnt out the line "but we won the prem" 

I can't use that anymore. 

 

[wilsdenrover]

29 minutes ago, ... said:

There's literally nothing to chirp back with is there. I've really burnt out the line "but we won the prem" 

I can't use that anymore. 

 

I don’t think there’s a sell by date on that one.

[davulsukur]

22 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

I don’t think there’s a sell by date on that one.

Not for us but for non rovers fans, it expired a long time ago.