Contracts

[Mattyblue]

Classic Bizzle. Always has to announce his  his return, then announces his departure straight after.

How’s that flex going by the way?

[JBiz]

2 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

You asked me a question neither of us could possibly answer either way.

We clearly arent offering competitive Championship wages for this to be a continued running theme.

But the main issue is the lack of proactivity. Why are we still to offer actual contracts for players with such little time remaining on their deals? Why has there been an 18 month lull?

Occasionally some players will outgrow us, but in that case ie Brereton and Rothwell, you have to sell and reinvest. Dolan, I think he would have signed had we been proactive. Now, not gonna happen especially as his stock has grown and his deal has been allowed to expire.

We can easily offer estimates, or a view on the potential earnings those players can obtain here and elsewhere. All that stuff is readily available online. Like turnover to wage ratios, income levels, season ticket prices / numbers etc

“Defending the club” is always the bollox that comes back when anyone offers anything that might be an external factor, like for example a player trying to maximise their income in a short career. Just read Preston’s chairmans recent comments;

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/25245597.preston-chief-hits-unfair-issue-affecting-blackburn/

Thats not offering up excuses as to why our turnover is still dog shit, and not increasing enough due to a lack of decent backroom management. It’s not offering an excuse as to why managers walk out the door into teams in the relegation places. 
 

 

[JBiz]

3 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

Classic Bizzle. Always has to announce his  his return, then announces his departure straight after.

How’s that flex going by the way?

The flex? Aka the higher wages you can offer someone over their contract if you don’t have to pay a fee?

[Mattyblue]

You still here?

Yes, I.e there’s no issue in us buying £7million young players as they’ll be on peanuts.

[JBiz]

2 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

You still here?

Yes, I.e there’s no issue in us buying £7million young players as they’ll be on peanuts.

I don’t think anyone but you ever interpreted it as that, but don’t let me stop you go reading posts from 6 years ago if it’ll get the sand out your arse.

 

 

 

 

[Mattyblue]

You’re a memorable poster, what can I say!

[Tomphil2]

The interview with the #nob end chap was interesting and everything that's missing here when there is silence then they stick 3 stooges in front of the cameras to try and save their own backsides.

No time for Preston but the difference in how the two clubs are run is night and day and i fully expect them to outdo us this season.

Also interesting how they are increasing their turnover despite the cheaper ST offers but of course that couldn't possibly work here even though we still have a bigger fanbase waiting in the wings.

[JBiz]

1 hour ago, Tomphil2 said:

The interview with the #nob end chap was interesting and everything that's missing here when there is silence then they stick 3 stooges in front of the cameras to try and save their own backsides.

No time for Preston but the difference in how the two clubs are run is night and day and i fully expect them to outdo us this season.

Also interesting how they are increasing their turnover despite the cheaper ST offers but of course that couldn't possibly work here even though we still have a bigger fanbase waiting in the wings.

Fucking annoying isn’t it!

[Bohinen1983]

How long was Kargbos' contract? 

[chaddyrovers]

5 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

You asked me a question neither of us could possibly answer either way.

We clearly arent offering competitive Championship wages for this to be a continued running theme.

But the main issue is the lack of proactivity. Why are we still to offer actual contracts for players with such little time remaining on their deals? Why has there been an 18 month lull?

Occasionally some players will outgrow us, but in that case ie Brereton and Rothwell, you have to sell and reinvest. Dolan, I think he would have signed had we been proactive. Now, not gonna happen especially as his stock has grown and his deal has been allowed to expire.

How do you know we aren't competitive wage at championship level? 

Is this some sort of info or knowledge you have?

[chaddyrovers]

9 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

What’s your favourite barbecue item?

Far too many, Sweet chill salmon, minty lamb burgers, Honey and garlic chicken, Salt and pepper King Prawns or Salt and pepper chicken 

9 hours ago, MarkBRFC said:

Bit overkill having a barbecue each day.

Beautiful Sunshine days and enjoying this weather

[JBiz]

1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said:

How do you know we aren't competitive wage at championship level? 

Is this some sort of info or knowledge you have?

Because we keep losing players on frees pal. 

[roversfan99]

7 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

How do you know we aren't competitive wage at championship level? 

Is this some sort of info or knowledge you have?

As said above. Players aren't signing contracts.

[47er]

6 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

Classic Bizzle. Always has to announce his  his return, then announces his departure straight after.

How’s that flex going by the way?

Back into hibernation after a very brief excursion! Comforting to know he's still around for some reason I can't identify!

[JBiz]

4 minutes ago, 47er said:

Back into hibernation after a very brief excursion! Comforting to know he's still around for some reason I can't identify!

I think the comfort comes from knowing I’m still suffering watching this fecking charade, just like the rest of you.

[Mike E]

2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

How do you know we aren't competitive wage at championship level? 

Is this some sort of info or knowledge you have?

It’s info or knowledge that everyone has. Just look at the wages other clubs pay compared to us, and look at the players we get linked with who turn up elsewhere. Or the number of times it has been reported in the last 3 years that we’ve made an offer to a player and then low-balled them when they arrive to sign their contract.

It’s not a mystery.

[chaddyrovers]

8 hours ago, Mike E said:

It’s info or knowledge that everyone has. Just look at the wages other clubs pay compared to us, and look at the players we get linked with who turn up elsewhere. Or the number of times it has been reported in the last 3 years that we’ve made an offer to a player and then low-balled them when they arrive to sign their contract.

 

Is it's? So you know what every player at Rovers is paid? Sharing that info then Mike? 

Yes true on a few players I will say like Caulker. 

Edited 11 hours ago by chaddyrovers

[47er]

2 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Is it's? So you know what every player at Rovers is paid? Sharing that info then Mike? 

Yes true on a few players I will say

Don't be pathetic Chaddy. We know that we pay the smallest wages in the division bar Rotherham. Its public knowledge.

[London blue]

Elliot said in his last podcast that it's generally accepted we are "comfortably in the bottom half of the championship" when it comes to financial heft.

It's common knowledge, if you choose not to believe it you're only betraying your own naivety.

[Tomphil2]

Rovers is mixed wage bill by the sounds of it with academy grads still on academy wages but no doubt with bonuses, lower paid players in their first contracts or bargain basement signings. Then there'll be a few on average wages and one or two higher earners compared to the others but not in terms of top 10 championship earners.

It's an ever evolving mystery but if its remained fairly static over the last few years but the squad size has remained the same that gives a clear indication it isn't a big payroll in Championship terms.

[MarkBRFC]

11 hours ago, Bohinen1983 said:

How long was Kargbos' contract? 

June 2027 like everyone else, bar De Neve, O'Riordan and Atcheson.

[DeeCee]

Could someone put a contract out on Suhail?

[Mattyblue]

We haven’t re-signed a first team player on a long term deal for what, two years now?

So use that thing called *logic*, Chaddy. We obviously can’t or won’t pay the going rate for our established Championship players.

Edited 10 hours ago by Mattyblue