Valérien Ismaël: Blackburn Rovers Head Coach

[Hasta]

Just now, davulsukur said:

As someone else said, sack this clown and bring in Duff.

We're going down, might as well make it entertaining (and uncomfortable for the hierarchy)

Duff won’t come. It’s a poisoned chalice for anyone with a reputation to ruin. Whoever we get will be like Val, off a scrap heap hoping for one last chance. Lee Bowyer for example. Which is shit, but is where we are. 
 

Regardless, we might as well roll the dice cos we can’t be any worse.

[Rover down South]

We have to be realistic about the pond we’ll be fishing in. 

We ended up with Val presumably because no one better would touch the job, despite being in the play off position.

The squad is far worse off than it was twelve months ago and whoever comes in has those above him dictating everything.

So with all that in mind, would Robbie Savage be worth a punt? Has a good win % and the sort of Eustace type character that could bond the players?

[lraC]

44 minutes ago, Hasta said:

He should be gone now. A win on Tuesday just means they won’t touch him until after the Norwich game on Saturday. And that’s just time and games wasted. It’s just a carbon copy of 2017.

Do not bank on a win V Wednesday on Tuesday 

[Ghost7]

Is he gone yet? We need to act fast.

[davulsukur]

16 minutes ago, Hasta said:

Duff won’t come. It’s a poisoned chalice for anyone with a reputation to ruin. Whoever we get will be like Val, off a scrap heap hoping for one last chance. Lee Bowyer for example. Which is shit, but is where we are. 
 

Regardless, we might as well roll the dice cos we can’t be any worse.

I'm pretty sure he would. 

His only managerial position to date has been Shelbourne FC and he's been out of work for the last 8 months.

He would jump at the chance to manage in The Championship 

[simongarnerisgod]

4 minutes ago, Rover down South said:

We have to be realistic about the pond we’ll be fishing in. 

We ended up with Val presumably because no one better would touch the job, despite being in the play off position.

The squad is far worse off than it was twelve months ago and whoever comes in has those above him dictating everything.

So with all that in mind, would Robbie Savage be worth a punt? Has a good win % and the sort of Eustace type character that could bond the players?

lol,savage would last about a week here,he`d be about as compatable with gestede as petrol is to a swan vesta

[Rover down South]

4 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

lol,savage would last about a week here,he`d be about as compatable with gestede as petrol is to a swan vesta

😆😆

Fair enough!

[Gav]

We want nobody near this club who could potentially be a manager of the future, once the circus has left town.

The club right now is setup to fail, at every level, why on earth would we want Duff, Dunn or Savage involved in the current climate?

Henning Berg was a fantastic player for this club, a Premiership winner and he's soiled his copy book with some for his brief time here, but elevated his stature in our house by taking the rats to the high court, but you get what I mean I'm sure.

These owners are poison and don't represent the Blackburn Rovers that we all know and love in any way.

VENKYS OUT - NOTHING ELSE MATTERS.

 

[Eternal Optimist]

9 minutes ago, Gav said:

We want nobody near this club who could potentially be a manager of the future, once the circus has left town.

The club right now is setup to fail, at every level, why on earth would we want Duff, Dunn or Savage involved in the current climate?

Henning Berg was a fantastic player for this club, a Premiership winner and he's soiled his copy book with some for his brief time here, but elevated his stature in our house by taking the rats to the high court, but you get what I mean I'm sure.

These owners are poison and don't represent the Blackburn Rovers that we all know and love in any way.

VENKYS OUT - NOTHING ELSE MATTERS.

 

Don’t think anyone wants Dunn 😬😬 oooohhh that would be a dreadful appointment 

[bluebruce]

16 minutes ago, Gav said:

We want nobody near this club who could potentially be a manager of the future, once the circus has left town.

The club right now is setup to fail, at every level, why on earth would we want Duff, Dunn or Savage involved in the current climate?

Henning Berg was a fantastic player for this club, a Premiership winner and he's soiled his copy book with some for his brief time here, but elevated his stature in our house by taking the rats to the high court, but you get what I mean I'm sure.

These owners are poison and don't represent the Blackburn Rovers that we all know and love in any way.

VENKYS OUT - NOTHING ELSE MATTERS.

 

I don't really want any ex player until they've cut their teeth at a level where I'd be happy to take them on even if they weren't an ex player. The sentiment is virtually meaningless to me, I want results.

[Norbert Rassragr]

If we're going down and don't care about the future, we might as well rehire Coyle or Steve Voldercunt. Go hard or go home. 

[Guy N. Cognito]

1 hour ago, Gav said:

He was spot on.

We are run by a bunch of rats from Pune, not Jack Walker and his team on the ground who only wanted good this club.

Do you disagree?

Comparisons to the 1995 winning era are facile and only show that Mowbray was part of the system at that point, dumbing down expectations to feather his own nest.

[Tomphil2]

Why are people saying daft things like Damien Duff etc ?

What credentials does he have to save a championship club in freefall ?

Naff all except he played here over 2 decades ago then turned into a little turd when he left, honestly i'd drive Mowbray here before i'd be daft enough to give it to Duff or someone like that.

The proof is in the pudding it needs a Eustace or near as damn it.

[Eternal Optimist]

2 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said:

Why are people saying daft things like Damien Duff etc ?

What credentials does he have to save a championship club in freefall ?

Naff all except he played here over 2 decades ago then turned into a little turd when he left, honestly i'd drive Mowbray here before i'd be daft enough to give it to Duff or someone like that.

The proof is in the pudding it needs a Eustace or near as damn it.

He was well thought of and did a good job at Shelbourne by winning them their first title for a few years. No one around these days has experience in dragging a club up from free fall? Mowbray tried and failed with us and has been pretty pants in jobs he’s had since.  

 

[Tomphil2]

18 minutes ago, Eternal Optimist said:

He was well thought of and did a good job at Shelbourne by winning them their first title for a few years. No one around these days has experience in dragging a club up from free fall? Mowbray tried and failed with us and has been pretty pants in jobs he’s had since.  

 

Rowett for starters, winning the league at that level is no qualification for a job like this at this point in time.

If we had a solid squad sat going nowhere in midtable it might be different as would a summer appointment with time to mould a squad but not now.

Trouble is there is zero football brains in the club now at director level not even a Waggot so in blind panic they'll probably turn to Mowbray with a long term contract.

And that will give us more of a fighting chance of staying up or coming straight back than a complete punt. JDT won a far superior league to that twice yet still struggled with the nature of this league.

Horses for courses needed.

[Eternal Optimist]

Just now, Tomphil2 said:

Rowett for starters, winning the league at that level is no qualification for a job like this at this point in time.

If we had a solid squad sat going nowhere in midtable it might be different as would a summer appointment with time to mould a squad but not now.

Trouble is there is zero football brains in the club now at director level not even a Waggot so in blind panic they'll probably turn to Mowbray with a long term contract.

And that will give us more of a fighting chance of staying up or coming straight back than a complete punt. JDT won a far superior league to that twice yet still struggled with the nature of this league.

Horses for courses needed.

Rowett plays long ball/counter attack horrendous football. We can’t defend so would struggle to even put a counter attack together, no pace to even play a counter attack and no one that seemingly can hold a ball up so can’t play long ball. Wrong manager for this shockingly put together team 

[Tomphil2]

1 minute ago, Eternal Optimist said:

Rowett plays long ball/counter attack horrendous football. We can’t defend so would struggle to even put a counter attack together, no pace to even play a counter attack and no one that seemingly can hold a ball up so can’t play long ball. Wrong manager for this shockingly put together team 

So did Eustace because these guys firstly look at solidifying the defence and take if from there.

Also a lot of our rare success even under Ismael came earlier away from home on the counter it's nonsense to suggest we can't play like that. Of course it won't be pretty who gives a toss we need results and clean sheets and there is enough defenders to pick from.

The high press i'm afrain needs ditching it isn't working its cost numerous games due to fatigue on 70 mins and a raft of subs because of it.

[Guy N. Cognito]

Someone like Steven Gerrard.

Why? Because it's a win-win situation.

Either a high-profile appointment galvanises the team enough to stave off relegation, OR he fails, and he casts a media spotlight on everything going wrong at Rovers. A name like Gerrard doesn’t fade quietly into the background like another drab appointment. His presence drags cameras, column inches, and uncomfortable questions with it.

[Gav]

4 minutes ago, Guy N. Cognito said:

Someone like Steven Gerrard.

Why? Because it's a win-win situation.

Either a high-profile appointment galvanises the team enough to stave off relegation, OR he fails, and he casts a media spotlight on everything going wrong at Rovers. A name like Gerrard doesn’t fade quietly into the background like another drab appointment. His presence drags cameras, column inches, and uncomfortable questions with it.

What was it Tony Mowbray said about it no longer being 1995 🤣☝️

 

[Rover down South]

I think we need to be realistic.

It’s possibly the least attractive managerial position in the top four divisions. No wage budget, no transfer budget, best players sold and fees not reinvested. Plus you have the CEO ‘in waiting’ pulling the strings.

Edit: And a below average squad.

Edited 1 hour ago by Rover down South

[Lancaster Rover]

Any championship job is an attractive job, last time round we will have had lots of quality candidates. The issues is Pasha et Al aren’t interested in quality candidates. They’re interested in maleable serfs who will tow the party line. Which apart from a minor wobble about the pitch Ismael has done perfectly. We’re only in the bottom 3 due to injuries, referees and the weather……..

[Guy N. Cognito]

6 minutes ago, Gav said:

What was it Tony Mowbray said about it no longer being 1995 🤣☝️

Do you think his stock is really that high?

[Browjd]

Something happening….EJ and AB haven’t posted all day despite some significant rumours 

[Lancaster Rover]

Boat’s happening 

[Tomphil2]

20 minutes ago, Guy N. Cognito said:

Someone like Steven Gerrard.

Why? Because it's a win-win situation.

Either a high-profile appointment galvanises the team enough to stave off relegation, OR he fails, and he casts a media spotlight on everything going wrong at Rovers. A name like Gerrard doesn’t fade quietly into the background like another drab appointment. His presence drags cameras, column inches, and uncomfortable questions with it.

Yep they should've gone for him when he said he was interested and that is following the ethos set down by Jack then John Wiliams.

Blackburn Rovers needs a big name manager for several reasons, profile, crowds, media image, connections, lure of better players to a northern backwater etc.

That's why they followed Souness with Hughes and him with Ince who ok that didn't work but they nipped it in the bud quick and got another in Allardyce.

They cost money but there is way more chance of them delivering and success goes someway to paying for itself. Repeated failure costs more and more in the long run as these lot have found out.

Lessons learned ?  Not a chance but we've clearly seen why they really opted for Ismael because here it's all about what happens off the pitch and toeing that line.