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3 hours ago, ... said:

I'm not voting for anyone. I hate the venkys as much as anyone but I want to take my kids out on a Saturday because that's MY time. 

I'd much prefer it and it'd be much better if 15k home fans turned up every home game so we'd average 18k over a season then it would remove a lot of ready made excuses by those inside the club.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, lraC said:

Here is an interesting article on football agents.

I do sometimes wonder if the club is run for the benefit of agents, rather then the owners and the fans.

One that always made me think that was our bargain purchase of Ruben Rochina.

Show me the Money: Who should pay the Football Agent and how is it taxed? - The Football Week

 

It was certainly the case in the early days with all the Kentaro boys, if it still goes on they do a better job of hiding it now.

Posted
1 minute ago, lraC said:

Here is an interesting article on football agents.

I do sometimes wonder if the club is run for the benefit of agents, rather then the owners and the fans.

One that always made me think that was our bargain purchase of Ruben Rochina.

Show me the Money: Who should pay the Football Agent and how is it taxed? - The Football Week

 

If you could make a million quid a year wheeling and dealing at a mid sized mid table championship club whilst also playing the big i am and benefiting from hospitality and perks etc why would you risk that in pursuit of a golden ticket.

I am and always have been utterly convinced there are other irons in the fire at this club and those irons have been more than happy with the last decade.

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Posted

Looks like Bath and Weimann might head to Derby.

I wouldn’t be too bothered if Weimann didn’t resign TBH. He popped up with some important goals last season, but his overall play was pretty ineffective last season. Considering his age and recent injury, offering a significant contract to him doesn’t make sense. 
 

Bath would be a bigger loss, no doubt. However again at his age I wouldn’t be paying over the odds to keep him. 

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Posted

Agreed that Weimann was someone I personally wouldnt have offered a new deal to in the first place so I wouldnt be too fussed about him not signing, in isolation. Batth would be a major blow though.

The bigger issue is the failing of the club again. A few leaked articles about things we are trying to do or are supposedly close to change the narrative in some peoples eyes, dont believe it. If we cant even sort a new short term deal for a couple of veterans then that is pretty telling.

Im sure if they do both join Derby then they will both get some stick. Lets not forget that we have already pissed about Batth in the past and cost him a year of his career essentially.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Blow-in said:

Is that not the very definistion of a "mixed bag"

I thought they were all pretty good signings, especially considering the outlay. 

Gueye was unplayable at times, Ohashi scored 10, Toth has taken the gloves off Pears (we hope!).

Sadly Kargbo got injured, but he has the pace we've been crying out for. 

Alas the person that lined those all up left in October and you saw the calibre of player we brought in during January under Gestede et al. 

We're fucked. 

Posted (edited)

I cannot believe they’ve allowed Batth to slip through their fingers. This could have been sorted months ago.

His leadership is something we have desperately need in the side - along with Trav they’re the only two with any of it. No surprise to see our nosedive in form coinciding with his absence.

Yet another terrible judgement call in a never ending list. No doubt one of Rudy’s lads will be coming in as his replacement. Happy days, eh.

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I believe 'they' - chief Venky stooge and his dogsbody - never wanted the likes of Batth, McFadzean or Weimann. They were very much Eustace signings, he wanted experience and eventually demanded it last summer threatening to walk away if he didn't get it. 

So I don't think chief Venky stooge will be making much, if any, serious effort to keep those players here now Eustace has gone. 

It will of course be dressed up as part of a project, wanting to lower the age of the squad, wanting to build value in the squad, and certain people will lap this up and convince themselves that it is all part of a plan. 

In the end they are just making it up on a whim and the minute another club comes along with a comparable or better offer we step aside. 

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Posted
5 minutes ago, JHRover said:

In the end they are just making it up on a whim and the minute another club comes along with a comparable or better offer we step aside. 

'Making it up on whim' is the exact definition of how they operate right throughout the club.

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Posted
16 minutes ago, JHRover said:

I believe 'they' - chief Venky stooge and his dogsbody - never wanted the likes of Batth, McFadzean or Weimann. They were very much Eustace signings, he wanted experience and eventually demanded it last summer threatening to walk away if he didn't get it. 

I won't be overly critical of the club for hesitating to extend the contract of a player who will be 35 in September. 

That will go wrong more often than it goes right. Of all of the contract resignings we have messed up, the likes of Batth, Weimann, and a few others are at least understandable. 

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I'd call it playing Russian roulette with those running the club risking relegation just to try and squeeze some value out of project signings.

See the season before last and all that was what lead to recruiting Eustace and his more experience model in the first place. 

Now it's a couple of new characters maybe about to repeat history still under the stewardship of the long standing shadow ruler.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Eddie said:

I won't be overly critical of the club for hesitating to extend the contract of a player who will be 35 in September. 

That will go wrong more often than it goes right. Of all of the contract resignings we have messed up, the likes of Batth, Weimann, and a few others are at least understandable. 

I'm not sure I attach any importance to his age. He was a rock for us for most of last season, and deserves another year. 

Making out like he is no great loss, not important or that it is wise to get shut just because he's 35 is in my opinion foolish. When you are working with our pitiful budget going for tried and tested in their 30s is important and sometimes the best way to recruit the experience needed as Eustace recognises. 

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Posted
11 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Also, it shouldnt be spun as a tactical decision. We will have tried and then failed.

Who would try to spin such a thing? Oh right 

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Posted
18 minutes ago, Eddie said:

I won't be overly critical of the club for hesitating to extend the contract of a player who will be 35 in September. 

That will go wrong more often than it goes right. Of all of the contract resignings we have messed up, the likes of Batth, Weimann, and a few others are at least understandable. 

Have to agree. Disappointing perhaps, but not a disaster imo.

Centre backs are probably the easiest position to pick up bargains, and if we do sign the French lad then I'm sure we can pick up a cheap alternative somewhere.

Weimann would be a bench warmer, so again I'm prepared to see what the recruitment team comes up with in that position.

We all know Eustaces preference for older players , but somewhere down the line that policy will come back to haunt you.

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I think it does become counter productive if you sign TOO MANY older players or you become overly reliant on them. 

But having just a couple and not obsessing over a data driven, inflexible value centric model (that keeps chasing) is invaluable for guidance. I think it really helped having us last season, especially Batth. Its not like we have a team full of veterans. And its not going to be of our choosing if they go, thats the issue, it further symbolises the inefficiencies in the club.

The season before, we totally lacked that and it really hindered us.

 

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Posted (edited)
19 minutes ago, G Somerset Rover said:

Have no doubt, Danny Batth’s replacement will definitely be cheaper (and probably be worse) than Danny Batth. 

I've amended your quote

I think that is more accurate.  Rovers might get lucky, but the penny pinching will eventually catch up

Edited by KentExile
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Posted
34 minutes ago, JHRover said:

I'm not sure I attach any importance to his age. He was a rock for us for most of last season, and deserves another year. 

'Time takes everybody out, time is undefeated.'

Posted (edited)
21 minutes ago, G Somerset Rover said:

Have no doubt, Danny Batth’s replacement will be worse than Danny Batth. 

Very strong chance that it will be worse than Danny Batth last year. Decent chance that he will be on par with whatever Danny Batth produces next year. 

Edited by Eddie
Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, MarkBRFC said:

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/25193971.blackburn-rovers-uncertainty-derby-county-lurk-duo/

As predicted.

And folk actually think they can get Brittain to sign a new deal or get this lad from Montpellier signed up?!

Do me a favour, these pair should have been the easiest deals they do this summer.

‘No chance we’re re-signing/signing him’
 

You say the same every summer/Jan about every player we are linked with and then claim you were right😉 

 

You’re bound to be right about some!

 

Edited by Forever Blue
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A good CB can play until they are 40 as long as they stay mostly fit, look at Thiago Silva.

Batth should have been given a deal that he would resign instantly and we can build from there, he is/was our best CB.

Instead they've undoubtedly low-balled him again while Eustace will have offered a 2-year deal at Derby.

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