2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

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6 minutes ago, rigger said:

Pederson V Chelsea in the cup 

 

Originally thinking of something else but yea agonising 

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[roversfan99]

55 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Gueye has had one season in English football and has already matched gallaghers best season for goal contributions. Both aren’t anything special let’s be real but he’s different and offers more than gally does and ‘should’ improve 

Ultimately we shouldnt be using Gallagher as the benchmark anyway.

But like I said, we won over twice as many games in the half season worth of games that he didnt start and combined with only 6 goals, I dont think he had a good season individually nor one that was above the majority of Gallagher's seasons here.

I dont think he fits into the style of the rest of the squad either and I wasnt impressed by his body language towards the end of the season when he came on in games. When Ohashi doesnt play, Gueye certainly doesnt slot in seemlessly as the results prove.

I also dont see the contribution of missing an open net but it hitting his heel leading to someone else scoring, or him winning a header 30 yards out as on par with a goal personally.

[RevidgeBlue]

9 hours ago, roverandout said:

Gueye seems better with the ball at his feet than in the air. Similar to Peter crouch

Hedges doesn't look too bad UNTIL the ball arrives at his feet.

[Hasta]

Duplicate post

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[Hasta]

1 hour ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Gueye has had one season in English football and has already matched gallaghers best season for goal contributions. Both aren’t anything special let’s be real but he’s different and offers more than gally does and ‘should’ improve 

I don’t disagree on the overall point, but that first season of Gallaghers was statistically better (just).

[RoversClitheroe]

8 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Hedges doesn't look too bad UNTIL the ball arrives at his feet.

Think he's absolutely terrible personally, should be in league 1.

[Emerald Isle Rover]

32 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Ultimately we shouldnt be using Gallagher as the benchmark anyway.

But like I said, we won over twice as many games in the half season worth of games that he didnt start and combined with only 6 goals, I dont think he had a good season individually nor one that was above the majority of Gallagher's seasons here.

I dont think he fits into the style of the rest of the squad either and I wasnt impressed by his body language towards the end of the season when he came on in games. When Ohashi doesnt play, Gueye certainly doesnt slot in seemlessly as the results prove.

I also dont see the contribution of missing an open net but it hitting his heel leading to someone else scoring, or him winning a header 30 yards out as on par with a goal personally.

I’m taking it in isolation in response to your posts about Gallagher. As I mentioned I don’t think either are great.but the highest ‘league goal contributions’ in gallaghers tenure was 12 I believe and Gueye has 12 this season in his first season. As a forward that’s all that really matters….is it good enough probably not going forward

as for his fit etc that’s for the manager to now decide I’m merely stating that he has done no worse than what Gallagher has ever done at a snipped of the price that’s all  
 

[Emerald Isle Rover]

29 minutes ago, Hasta said:

I don’t disagree on the overall point, but that first season of Gallaghers was statistically better (just).

If Iv missed something I apologise but I’m counting 12 goal contributions (league) in his first season?

[RevidgeBlue]

35 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said:

Think he's absolutely terrible personally, should be in league 1.

Couldn't agree more. Can't understand how he's carved out a career in professional football at all.

The point I was making was that he buzzes about and looks lively at times which must impress managers but it all goes wrong when he gets the ball.

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[47er]

7 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Closest player we've ever had to Gueye that I can recall is Shefki Kuqi. Big, Clumsy, bit of a handful, not incredibly prolific but scores a few.

Infectious enthusiasm and extremely likeable.

Kuqi had a superior goal celebration though!

[bluebruce]

10 hours ago, den said:

We obviously have different opinions on what makes him so good in the air. For me the timing of his Jump and connection on the ball is the worst part, closely followed by his direction. Just being a big lump that occasionally manages to get his head on the ball means very little. How many headers has he scored since he’s been here? I genuinely don’t know but doubt it’s very many.

Good headers from the past? Absolutely loads of them. He doesn’t come close IMO.

Disagree, and there's a big difference between competing with the good headers from the past like RSC and Gestede, and being amongst the poorest headers.

If I were to guess I'd probably say he scored 3 headers, and wasn't always given much aerial supply. Seems a fairly normal amount. There were games where he was winning everything in the air.

He appears to be in the top 1 percent of players in the league for winning aerial duels, with 6.31 per game.

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[Forever Blue]

9 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Ultimately we shouldnt be using Gallagher as the benchmark anyway.

But like I said, we won over twice as many games in the half season worth of games that he didnt start and combined with only 6 goals, I dont think he had a good season individually nor one that was above the majority of Gallagher's seasons here.

Yet we had a very good record when Gally played iirc.

Causation vs Correlation. 

 

[Forever Blue]

7 hours ago, bluebruce said:

Disagree, and there's a big difference between competing with the good headers from the past like RSC and Gestede, and being amongst the poorest headers.

If I were to guess I'd probably say he scored 3 headers, and wasn't always given much aerial supply. Seems a fairly normal amount. There were games where he was winning everything in the air.

He appears to be in the top 1 percent of players in the league for winning aerial duels, with 6.31 per game.

Stats on a player being able to win a header are fairly meaningless if the player has limited technique and the ball ends up  travelling in a different direction than intended. 

[den]

1 hour ago, Forever Blue said:

Stats on a player being able to win a header are fairly meaningless if the player has limited technique and the ball ends up  travelling in a different direction than intended. 

Wish I could give this 2 likes.

 

[rob_of_the_rovers]

Some squad stats sorted by how well we did with them on the pitch vs how well we did without them. No surprise who's at the top.

[MarkBRFC]

Criminal that we have allowed ourselves again to get to the stage where our two most influential players are out of contract in 12 months time with not even a hint of talks, but not surprising at all.

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[RoversClitheroe]

1 minute ago, rob_of_the_rovers said:

Some squad stats sorted by how well we did with them on the pitch vs how well we did without them. No surprise who's at the top.

Stats like these are absolutely irrelevant.

As it's got no context, or show opponents.

If you showed pairings e.g. Travis and Tronstad together on the pitch with Aynsley Pears it'd tell a story.

[RoversClitheroe]

Just now, MarkBRFC said:

Criminal that we have allowed ourselves again to get to the stage where our two most influential players are out of contract in 12 months time, but no surprise at all.

They'll try and sell Tronstad and Travis this summer I don't doubt it.

[MarkBRFC]

6 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said:

They'll try and sell Tronstad and Travis this summer I don't doubt it.

I think Travis especially they will be keen to get out of the door, and then make something up that he doesn't fit in our "new system" or something.

[alex l]

1 hour ago, MarkBRFC said:

Criminal that we have allowed ourselves again to get to the stage where our two most influential players are out of contract in 12 months time with not even a hint of talks, but not surprising at all.

Of course it's not good but can happen anywhere. Mbappe went for free - a player who could possibly have gone for a world record fee - while Liverpool had 3 of their key players in the same position, and look likely to lose 1 of them. So yes, we've lost important players for free, but it's happened to literally some of the biggest clubs. 

[Tomphil2]

The model that this club has to run on now you simply cannot keep letting it happen then shrugging the shoulders.

You also cannot keep telling fans one thing about the 'project' grow/buy low increase value then sell, whilst doing the complete opposite in several cases every year.

[47er]

1 hour ago, alex l said:

Of course it's not good but can happen anywhere. Mbappe went for free - a player who could possibly have gone for a world record fee - while Liverpool had 3 of their key players in the same position, and look likely to lose 1 of them. So yes, we've lost important players for free, but it's happened to literally some of the biggest clubs. 

Liverpool might make a mistake or 2 along the way but they are still the Champions! Margins are so tight for Rovers we can't make mistakes , let alone glaringly obvious ones--like not tying down our best players, of which we only have a few. It's not that hard.

But we keep doing it over and over and over again. I'd list them but its too painful

[islander200]

1 hour ago, alex l said:

Of course it's not good but can happen anywhere. Mbappe went for free - a player who could possibly have gone for a world record fee - while Liverpool had 3 of their key players in the same position, and look likely to lose 1 of them. So yes, we've lost important players for free, but it's happened to literally some of the biggest clubs. 

Yeah but those clubs don't start moaning about not having any money and say they can't spend in the transfer market  

We leave it to late to start negotiating new contracts no doubt about it,if Dolan had been offered more money with 2 years left on his deal then he would have signed. 

Travis, Brittain ,Hyam and Tronstad should have been made contract offers last summer and if we couldn't get deals done then look to sell them with 2 years left and use the money on replacements like normal run clubs do 

[bluebruce]

5 hours ago, Forever Blue said:

Stats on a player being able to win a header are fairly meaningless if the player has limited technique and the ball ends up  travelling in a different direction than intended. 

Right well I don't believe that's a persistent problem for him, and half the post I was replying to was essentially claiming he doesn't win headers.

[RevidgeBlue]

1 hour ago, alex l said:

Of course it's not good but can happen anywhere. Mbappe went for free - a player who could possibly have gone for a world record fee - while Liverpool had 3 of their key players in the same position, and look likely to lose 1 of them. So yes, we've lost important players for free, but it's happened to literally some of the biggest clubs. 

Not a valid comparison at all really. Those Clubs can afford to replace said players.

And even if other Clubs make the occasional mistake, that doesn't excuse us making the same mistake once, let alone time after time after time.