simongarnerisgod Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago players back to pre season training tommorow,expect the departures will happen soon,a few uninspiring loans arrive and a couple more players from the twilight zone of the european football pyramid Quote
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dallydally Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago Just now, simongarnerisgod said: players back to pre season training tommorow,expect the departures will happen soon,a few uninspiring loans arrive and a couple more players from the twilight zone of the european football pyramid As good as that?? Quote
Old Codger Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 13 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said: players back to pre season training tommorow,expect the departures will happen soon,a few uninspiring loans arrive and a couple more players from the twilight zone of the european football pyramid there was a story in the telewag that players who hadn't signed new contracts weren't expected to return to training on Monday. That would include Trav, Dolan etc wouldn't it. We shall see - I wonder if the club marketing department will release a video of the boys getting back in harness?? Matters not. All that matters is that we are on the approach to another campaign, and yet again the omens are less than favourable. Getting a bit sick of starting every season with low expectations. Whatever happened to giving it a right good go? BASTARDS! PASHA THE STOOGE OUT! VENKYS OUT! 4 Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 7 minutes ago, dallydally said: As good as that?? going to be as grim as a wet monday in january๐ cheap imports from wherever all our key players sold ย loanees who mirrors duberry and moran val to realise he`s been sold a duffer and leg it by november academy players to fill out the squad(whether they are ready or not) sidnei to be about as much use as radislav petrovic de neve to be so bad,that mill hill st peters put in a bid but hey,get behind the lads,if it was`nt for venkys we could end up like derby๐ 3 Quote
Old Codger Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago He'd be lucky to get a sniff at MHSP! Proper football club! 1 Quote
Ricceh Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 2 hours ago, roversfan99 said: And why do we want to "explore overseas?" Cheaper wages. I very much doubt that Eustace's only grievance was transfers.ย Im not convinced there is a self imposed wage cap but I am pretty sure that its an unwillingness to offer competitive wages (throw in some general incompetence at all levels) that means that basically all of our key players have 0 or 1 year left and dont seem close to anything new. Also there's very much an English tax on players and academy graduates here, dont forget that. There's a chance you can get more for less from overseas. Quote
alex l Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 27 minutes ago, Old Codger said: there was a story in the telewag that players who hadn't signed new contracts weren't expected to return to training on Monday. That would include Trav, Dolan etc wouldn't it. We shall see - I wonder if the club marketing department will release a video of the boys getting back in harness?? Matters not. All that matters is that we are on the approach to another campaign, and yet again the omens are less than favourable. Getting a bit sick of starting every season with low expectations. Whatever happened to giving it a right good go? BASTARDS! PASHA THE STOOGE OUT! VENKYS OUT! No it meant those out of contract on the 30th - Dolan, batth, weimann - not those with a year to go.ย 4 Quote
Mercer Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, alex l said: No it meant those out of contract on the 30th - Dolan, batth, weimann - not those with a year to go.ย So, tomorrow no Dolan, no Batth and no Weimann. However, Forshaw, De Neve and Sid will be there! Ismael will be so excited. Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Mercer said: So, tomorrow no Dolan, no Batth and no Weimann. However, Forshaw, De Neve and Sid will be there! Ismael will be so excited. Two of those leaving you said last summer were utter desperation signingsโฆ.not sure why your so much in uproar nowย 1 Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago travis,brittain and sonny will no doubt be trying to machinate their exits now,i would to if i was in their position,why risk potential injuryย when you are in the last year of your contract with the club seemingly unwilling to compromise on a new deal 1 Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 4 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said: travis,brittain and sonny will no doubt be trying to machinate their exits now,i would to if i was in their position,why risk potential injuryย when you are in the last year of your contract with the club seemingly unwilling to compromise on a new deal Said the same yesterday and was shot down saying why would they risk their loyalty bonus payments - if the 10k cap is true they all should just ask for a transferย Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: Said the same yesterday and was shot down saying why would they risk their loyalty bonus payments - if the 10k cap is true they all should just ask for a transferย i think they`de forego their "loyalty bonus" to get out of ewood for a progressive club who want to challenge for promotion 1 Quote
Mercer Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 16 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: Two of those leaving you said last summer were utter desperation signingsโฆ.not sure why your so much in uproar nowย We are losing 3 steady Championship performers and so far we've recruited, IMO, a washed-up Forshaw who we didn't want at the end of the season (that is desperate), Tavares who managed 15 starts out of 34 for Moreirense but only completed 3 of those games and De Neve whose move to a Championship club astonished a local Belgian journalist given his seemingly very modest playing ability. I'd down a few Guinness if I was you and they might help you to see the ludicrousy of both your argument and Rovers' plight!ย 1 Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Mercer said: We are losing 3 steady Championship performers and so far we've recruited, IMO, a washed-up Forshaw who we didn't want at the end of the season (that is desperate), Tavares who managed 15 starts out of 34 for Moreirense but only completed 3 of those games and De Neve whose move to a Championship club astonished a local Belgian journalist given his seemingly very modest playing ability. I'd down a few Guinness if I was you and they might help you to see the ludicrousy of both your argument and Rovers' plight!ย But you said last summer (before playing for us) that batth and weimann were desperation signings and on the back of them signing would take a miracle for us to stay up. Now youโve went full circle and are in uproar these lads are leaving and doing what you did last season not giving any of the new lads a chance yetย 5 Quote
roversfan99 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago I don't really understand that argument. Players do better or worse than we initially think, and our opinion can change. You don't have to keep the same opinion. 1 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 38 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: Said the same yesterday and was shot down saying why would they risk their loyalty bonus payments - if the 10k cap is true they all should just ask for a transferย Can't see how the 10k wage cap can be a thing otherwise we wouldn't be able to trigger the extensions on players like Hyam. Quote
wilsdenrover Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago (edited) 8 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: I don't really understand that argument. Players do better or worse than we initially think, and our opinion can change. You don't have to keep the same opinion. You donโt but you can learn from your mistakes. ie. if youโve previously written off players before theyโve played for the club and then they do ok ย maybe donโt then go and write off further players in the same way.ย Edited 3 hours ago by wilsdenrover 3 Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 2 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said: You donโt but you can learn from your mistakes. ie. if youโve previously written off players before theyโve played for the club and then they do ok then maybe then donโt go and write off further players in the same way.ย Beat me to itโฆ..exactly thisย 1 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 4 hours ago, roversfan99 said: And why do we want to "explore overseas?" Cheaper wages. You can players from overseas for less wages and less transfer free. We have made plenty of good signings from overseas and yes we have some poor ones just like the domestic market.ย We need to be looking in all market even Australia and USA.ย 4 hours ago, roversfan99 said: I very much doubt that Eustace's only grievance was transfers.ย Yes of course, probably things we will never know about but I do think that transfer and who has the major say is a important one 4 hours ago, roversfan99 said: Im not convinced there is a self imposed wage cap but I am pretty sure that its an unwillingness to offer competitive wages (throw in some general incompetence at all levels) that means that basically all of our key players have 0 or 1 year left and dont seem close to anything new. If Batth has sign a straight 2 year contract there then fair enough cos I stand by I wouldn't have done. 1 year contract will club option or something fair enough but not a straight 2 year contract.ย We should have been in talks with Travis, Tronstad and Brittain during this past season so Rovers have no defence to be honest.ย Dolan, I feel he knows about 18 months he wanted to see out of contract and move on a free transfer.ย Quote
JHRover Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 4 hours ago, chaddyrovers said: and what happens if the wage cap rumour is wrong?ย I wouldn't have been offering Batth a straight 2 year contract if that what Derby have offered him to sign there.ย Eustace jumped ship cos he wanted more say and mostly full control of transfers which he now as Derby I would guess hence when you look at his signings they are former players of his from previous clubs or experience championship players like Morris. That's is how he wants his squad. Rovers want to explore the overseas like we done the last 2 summers windows with some signings which have worked out and we are looking at continue with the plan from Gestede, Owen and Ismael. Oh dear, looks like we are sliding back into the bad old days again. Whether it is right or wrong about the wage cap makes no difference. Whether we have a ยฃ10k a weekย self imposedย wage cap or don't, makes no practical difference. Either way we are incapable of keeping our best players due to our approach to contracts. I don't care if we are going around offering ยฃ50k a week, if players don't sign the damn thing its the same end result - failure and assets leaving to go to rivals.ย The point is that whatever we are doing isn't working. Hence in the space of 4 years a complete and total exodus of just about every player with value or who could command a deal elsewhere, leaving us with unknowns, academy grads and cheap signings like Forshaw. Truly pathetic.ย Nobody knows what Derby are offering Batth. Maybe it is 2 years, maybe not. You seem to have acquired inside knowledge that they are giving him 2 years and seem to have decided that it is ridiculous for us to have done the same.ย Again, doesn't really matter. What matters is that he is a good player, a leader, was outstanding for us last season, we were a better team with him in the side, and ultimately whatever the cause of it he's deciding to walk away from us after less than a year, walk away from regular game time with us and potentially the captaincy once we've offloaded the incumbent, to join another club. That tells me that what we are offering isn't good enough. Our choice.ย You're rewriting history on Eustace. He left because this club is a shambolic joke, that bungled last summer so much so that he threatened to resign despite only joining in February. A club that trousered almost all of the Adam Wharton and Szmodics cash and left him scratching around for cheap signings to rebuild despite keeping us up. A club that mucked around the easy signings of McFadzean and Batth despite the manager wanting both and from that moment on had his eyes on moving elsewhere. A club that introduced a rookie work experience director of football over the top of Eustace who I'd say has forgotten more about the Championship than Gestede will ever know.ย A club that changes 'project' every year, not because it is trying to get somewhere but because it can't retain staff because they quickly realise it is a lie and doomed to fail because the owners down aren't fit for purpose.ย People like you who reset every summer and forget about all the above and invent narratives to make you feel better about the state of play at Ewood play right into the regime's grubby hands.ย Rovers don't want to explore the overseas market any more than they did 10 years ago. It is just the way we have chosen to go because by choosing to slash costs it is inevitable that we have to go to the bargain basement to find signings. Their choice. If Eustace had been a good boy, shut up and got on with it and stayed put they'd be doing something totally different now.ย There's no plan. It is just fake and a con job. ย 6 Quote
BankEnd Rover Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 35 minutes ago, Mercer said: We are losing 3 steady Championship performers and so far we've recruited, IMO, a washed-up Forshaw who we didn't want at the end of the season (that is desperate), Tavares who managed 15 starts out of 34 for Moreirense but only completed 3 of those games and De Neve whose move to a Championship club astonished a local Belgian journalist given his seemingly very modest playing ability. I'd down a few Guinness if I was you and they might help you to see the ludicrousy of both your argument and Rovers' plight!ย You're definitely a troll poster.ย 1 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 3 hours ago, Ricceh said: Do you think this is a problem? I think it's a massive problem. Like I said it not how the club should be run. The CEO should be running the club with everyone reporting to him and the board.ย 3 hours ago, BankEnd Rover said: A poster who broke the news about Tavares has said there's nothing in the Bain story. ย BrfcPrivy (@BrfcP7414) / X ย Quote
roversfan99 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 13 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said: You donโt but you can learn from your mistakes. ie. if youโve previously written off players before theyโve played for the club and then they do ok ย maybe donโt then go and write off further players in the same way.ย ย 11 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: Beat me to itโฆ..exactly thisย Does this argument only apply one way? Ie, anyone who says that x or y is a good signing, should that not also be said for fear of them turning out shite? If people actually wrote off these players, for example Batth and Weimann, then they would be beyond being able to acknowledge that actually, they were good signings. Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 3 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said: You're definitely a troll poster.ย Why, do you think VI will be pleased with the transfer activity thus far? What a silly comment. Quote
Tomphil2 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 16 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: Can't see how the 10k wage cap can be a thing otherwise we wouldn't be able to trigger the extensions on players like Hyam. Not if its only just been introduced in terms of new sigings. In other words regardless of wages now being paid you can't bring in any new ones on over 10k a week. Not a dig at you but i'm amazed this seems to be so difficult to comprehend although obviously it's only a rumour previous experience tells us how things can change here overnight. Then change back again ! 1 Quote
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