2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[Tomphil2]

1 minute ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Then you have to consider the rest of the players who might not be on anything like that - “ Who’s this big time Charlie we’ve just signed, he can’t run with the ball without falling over it ! “

That'll be their problem it's no different to here really any neutral watching last season would probably say Dolan is the £20k a week player not Cantwell.

I'm sure a lot of the players think the same especially when several million has been spaffed in the last couple of years on duds like Dennis, Ennis and Fleck.

All better paid than a lot of our academy grads no doubt.

[Tomphil2]

2 minutes ago, TurkishDelight said:

I recon he wants minimum 4 year deal. That is £4mill as a base. Scoring, assist, position in League etc is extra. Plus sign on fee and agent fee. That is a minimum of £5-6 mill for a player who can be good in short spells in Championship. 

And who will easily be sold for that if he does well so that's the investment to consider for any buying club.

If he helps fire a decent Championship outfit to promotion then it's peanuts.

Edited July 6 by Tomphil2

[Emerald Isle Rover]

Every transfer is a gamble I just found it interesting the Turkish club president stating that Dolan wants a prem move and they wouldn’t pay him the wage he wants as he isn’t elite

[Forever Blue]

 

[B16Rover]

May be wrong but isn't there little to no tax in Turkish football wages too? 

Just make sure youre not paid in Lira Tyrhys

[J*B]

1 hour ago, Forever Blue said:

If we lose nobody else, and sign a quality CF, RW and CB then I actually think we’ll have a pretty competitive first team squad. 

Narrator: But that wasn’t quite how it played out. 

[Inferi]

4 minutes ago, Forever Blue said:

 

Would be shocked if a Premier League club signs him. If those wage demands are correct he is nowhere near as good as he (or rather his agent) thinks he is.

[JBiz]

1 minute ago, J*B said:

Narrator: But that wasn’t quite how it played out. 

Narrator No2

”but that’s just not what we talk about here” 😂 

[RoversClitheroe]

39 minutes ago, TurkishDelight said:

I recon he wants minimum 4 year deal. That is £4mill as a base. Scoring, assist, position in League etc is extra. Plus sign on fee and agent fee. That is a minimum of £5-6 mill for a player who can be good in short spells in Championship. 

He needs to score and assist to get those extras - so let's just say £4m

[Forever Blue]

7 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said:

He needs to score and assist to get those extras - so let's just say £4m

Was it 7 goals and 6 assists last season? Not terrible by any means.

I think he’ll score goals wherever he goes (within reason) but think he’s deluding himself if he thinks he’ll be a regular in the Prem. 

[Ricceh]

I feel like ever since that cup game against Leicester, Dolan has let the praise go to his head.

[simongarnerisgod]

where has this dolan wants 20k a week come from???

[Dreams of 1995]

I was reading about Hulls financial penalties the other day. It reminded me of the few posters on here who waxed lyrical about their excellent business a few years ago

It’s very easy to look further afield and think it is all sunshine and rainbows. Just because they have spent money, does not mean they are doing it correctly 

Whilst we have the worst possible owners, we do have a shrewd and massively undervalued recruitment team. I will continue to trust them - that isn’t based on being a happy clapper or “supporting the club no matter what” (whatever that means - being a fan?) - but is based on recent history. A minuscule budget, but regular play off challengers. I’m prepared to wait and see what squad they put together this year before exclaiming others are doing better business than us 

[simongarnerisgod]

1 minute ago, Dreams of 1995 said:

I was reading about Hulls financial penalties the other day. It reminded me of the few posters on here who waxed lyrical about their excellent business a few years ago

It’s very easy to look further afield and think it is all sunshine and rainbows. Just because they have spent money, does not mean they are doing it correctly 

Whilst we have the worst possible owners, we do have a shrewd and massively undervalued recruitment team. I will continue to trust them - that isn’t based on being a happy clapper or “supporting the club no matter what” (whatever that means - being a fan?) - but is based on recent history. A minuscule budget, but regular play off challengers. I’m prepared to wait and see what squad they put together this year before exclaiming others are doing better business than us 

it was excellent management of jdt and eustace that got us close to the play offs

[JBiz]

5 minutes ago, Dreams of 1995 said:

I was reading about Hulls financial penalties the other day. It reminded me of the few posters on here who waxed lyrical about their excellent business a few years ago

It’s very easy to look further afield and think it is all sunshine and rainbows. Just because they have spent money, does not mean they are doing it correctly 

Whilst we have the worst possible owners, we do have a shrewd and massively undervalued recruitment team. I will continue to trust them - that isn’t based on being a happy clapper or “supporting the club no matter what” (whatever that means - being a fan?) - but is based on recent history. A minuscule budget, but regular play off challengers. I’m prepared to wait and see what squad they put together this year before exclaiming others are doing better business than us 

Halle fucking lujah

[Tomphil2]

The Hull owner is another crackpot akin to the V's but even solid local ownership doesn't guarantee anything ie Middlesbrough but there isn't the backdrop of noise and stupidity to continually piss fans off.

And the chances of either of those getting it right before us is very strong i'd say.

[roversfan99]

How? His effort has in no way wained and he has become more effective as a result 

Fair play to him if hes demanding a 1 million euro salary, so about £16,500 per week. If they or indeed anyone pays it, then hes worth it. I wouldnt be surprised if he could get that or at least close to in the Championship especially with only a compensation fee for the club to pay. Hes a decent Championship wideman who wont have been paid as such here.

[Emerald Isle Rover]

4 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

How? His effort has in no way wained and he has become more effective as a result 

Fair play to him if hes demanding a 1 million euro salary, so about £16,500 per week. If they or indeed anyone pays it, then hes worth it. I wouldnt be surprised if he could get that or at least close to in the Championship especially with only a compensation fee for the club to pay. Hes a decent Championship wideman who wont have been paid as such here.

Exceed 1million so likely to be closer to 20k but the interesting part is he wants a prem move….think his agent has done him bad here 

[roversfan99]

How has he done him bad? We assume that its down to agent advice but he may aswell hope for a Prem move even if its unlikely, it doesnt mean that its that or nothing.

His only decision so far is not to accept the contract weve put in front of him, which presumably is still there waiting if absolutely necessary. But he will easily get a Championship move on a reasonable wage or even a foreign club like this Turkish club who play in European competition.

[Emerald Isle Rover]

3 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

How has he done him bad? We assume that its down to agent advice but he may aswell hope for a Prem move even if its unlikely, it doesnt mean that its that or nothing.

His only decision so far is not to accept the contract weve put in front of him, which presumably is still there waiting if absolutely necessary. But he will easily get a Championship move on a reasonable wage or even a foreign club like this Turkish club who play in European competition.

All players hope for a premier league move doesn’t mean they warrant one or get one. Will he get better pay from a champ club absolutely but it’s far from the lofty ambitions he told us about not so long ago 

derby Norwich Bristol c and the Turkish club all the ones Iv seen interested 

I personally think his agent has been in his head telling him he’s better than what he is Broughton tried to get Dolan tied down in summer 2023 with no joy I don’t think he’s ever had any intention of staying at rovers tbh.

good luck to him he never downed tools or anything like that and always gave 100% but I do feel he/his agent have possibly overrated Dolan 

[rigger]

If Dolan isn't careful he will be on the same career path as Nyambe.

[roversfan99]

25 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

All players hope for a premier league move doesn’t mean they warrant one or get one. Will he get better pay from a champ club absolutely but it’s far from the lofty ambitions he told us about not so long ago 

derby Norwich Bristol c and the Turkish club all the ones Iv seen interested 

I personally think his agent has been in his head telling him he’s better than what he is Broughton tried to get Dolan tied down in summer 2023 with no joy I don’t think he’s ever had any intention of staying at rovers tbh.

good luck to him he never downed tools or anything like that and always gave 100% but I do feel he/his agent have possibly overrated Dolan 

The most probable reason for him not to sign here is financial. 

He had 18 months left on a deal signed when he had yet to really establish himself, so safe to say he was on peanuts. Had we offered him a competitive Championship wage then it wouldnt have made sense not to sign. 

A narrative has been created that he is greedy and big headed which suits the club but seems to me a little unfounded. It isnt greedy to want to be paid what you feel like you deserve.

[roversfan99]

55 minutes ago, Dreams of 1995 said:

I was reading about Hulls financial penalties the other day. It reminded me of the few posters on here who waxed lyrical about their excellent business a few years ago

It’s very easy to look further afield and think it is all sunshine and rainbows. Just because they have spent money, does not mean they are doing it correctly 

Whilst we have the worst possible owners, we do have a shrewd and massively undervalued recruitment team. I will continue to trust them - that isn’t based on being a happy clapper or “supporting the club no matter what” (whatever that means - being a fan?) - but is based on recent history. A minuscule budget, but regular play off challengers. I’m prepared to wait and see what squad they put together this year before exclaiming others are doing better business than us 

But equally, should we be grateful just because we arent one of 2 clubs not to be under embargo and restrictions? That is a low bar.

Its obviously down to personal opinion but I dont understand fully trusting this current (an ever changing part of our club) recruitment set up. Im not saying that a strong distrust is necessary, but at best the jury is out for me. Last seasons higher than expected position was built on a very talented (and now departed manager) getting the best out of a core of predominantly pre existing players signed under other regimes, Brittain/Hyam/Tronstad by Broughton, Dolan by Mowbray, Travis obviously as an academy graduate and then Batth who to be fair was part of last seasons recruitment, albeit had Eustace's prints all over it.

There are a lot of signings made under Gestede that at best are yet to prove themselves. 3 cost £1m or at least close to, Kargbo only signed mid way through and got injured so we dont really know either way. Toth only played a few games and didnt have much to do in them so again we dont really know. Gueye we have the most evidence on, only 6 goals and not looking up to it most of the time does not bode well. Cantwell was a high profile signing and he struggled. Ohashi is nothing remarkable but he certainly is a very useful player and more than value for money to be fair. Batth was very good, Beck was good, Ribieiro ok and the rest, best not to say.

I dont see how that body of evidence leans to having total trust in this recruitment setup personally. Some of them may go on to prove to be really shrewd signings, but at this stage I personally cant understand having full faith.

[Hasta]

3 hours ago, Forever Blue said:

To be fair he didn’t say that last summer.

No last summer, after someone else had initially broke the interest, was when he said Ohashi was in Manchester and having a medical, and it turned out he was still in Japan and hadn’t even travelled yet. He was miles out on that one, literally.

[Hasta]

1 hour ago, Inferi said:

Would be shocked if a Premier League club signs him. If those wage demands are correct he is nowhere near as good as he (or rather his agent) thinks he is.

It’s ‘only’ around £16.5k to £20k a week which for a free transfer is probably realistic.

Edited July 6 by Hasta