2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[RevidgeBlue]

12 minutes ago, Browjd said:

JRC as part Ethan Pye deal?

That should knock £50 off the price!

[Mercer]

17 minutes ago, dingles staying down 4ever said:

It is surely another coincidence that you are quoting the same as Twitter which you dont read.

Don't give a feck what you think.

I post in good faith.

Would be interested to see the Twitter post you think I've copied - has it not occurred to you they may well have copied my post from here!?!?  I posted on here about 11.20am - what time is the Twitter post?

Edited July 9 by Mercer

[RevidgeBlue]

It's getting really boring, the accusing Mercer of having another account on Twitter.

[Ghost7]

Tronstad is a better player than Travis in my opinion. 

Decent with both feet, blocks or intercepts almost everything at times and retains the ball better.

I'm sure plenty disagree but I was shocked at how good he was in some games last year.

Travis is more legs, in your face, passion, less technique... but I'd rather they were both out there.

You need to retain those qualities and that kind of depth if you want to do anything serious in this league.

[JHRover]

58 minutes ago, FE123 said:

Am I the only one who thinks Tronstad and Travis are solid but limited championship players who at soon to be aged 30 and 28 respectively aren’t worth offering circa 20k a week for 3 years that they will most certainly get else where?

Is there something wrong with a midfield aged 30 and 28? You make out like that is old, or unusual. Or that it is advantageous to have a couple of teenagers there instead who we will simply release or sell as soon as we can anyway. 

You also seem to be contradicting yourself. You confirm that they will most certainly get 3 years and decent money elsewhere (not sure where you've found the £20k a week figure from) yet suggest they aren't worth that. Well if they can get it elsewhere that suggests they are worth that. We can either pay the going rate or lose them and most certainly decline as a result. Our choice. 

I am concerned that you are doing exactly what the regime wants - accepting their decision making based on a belief that these sort of players should be let go because either they are 'too old' or their wage demands are excessive, and there's no evidence for either of those things.

They are simply Championship proven performers coveted by rivals because they are good and therefore able to command Championship wages.

The problem here is Rovers being unwilling to offer that.

[BankEnd Rover]

Yeh Tronstad is the better player out of him and Travis. However the team morale will be hit more if we loose our club captain.
I'm not accepting Hyam to be captain next season...The bloke couldn't say boo to an apple. 

Edited July 9 by BankEnd Rover

[Angry_Pirate]

If we are discussing which one of Trav and Sondre to keep (because apparently resigning both is impossible at this football club), my vote would be Travis.

Travis is 27¾, which is 2+ years younger than Sondre (who turns 30 in August). Travis is our captain, academy graduate, and possibly the heartbeat of this football club. He's also English which given the way our recruitment is going might actually be more important for these Work Permits.

I'm a big fan of Sondre (who can be overrated by some), but Travis on a 3+ year extension (between the two) would be my core.

They'll both leave.

 

Also, SSN is now reporting the Brittain to Derby, Wrexham, and Boro story. Rovers apparently want Drameh from  Hull to replace him 😶... It sounds like it's going to happen. Shambles FC.

Edited July 9 by Angry_Pirate

[FE123]

4 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Is there something wrong with a midfield aged 30 and 28? You make out like that is old, or unusual. Or that it is advantageous to have a couple of teenagers there instead who we will simply release or sell as soon as we can anyway. 

You also seem to be contradicting yourself. You confirm that they will most certainly get 3 years and decent money elsewhere (not sure where you've found the £20k a week figure from) yet suggest they aren't worth that. Well if they can get it elsewhere that suggests they are worth that. We can either pay the going rate or lose them and most certainly decline as a result. Our choice. 

I am concerned that you are doing exactly what the regime wants - accepting their decision making based on a belief that these sort of players should be let go because either they are 'too old' or their wage demands are excessive, and there's no evidence for either of those things.

They are simply Championship proven performers coveted by rivals because they are good and therefore able to command Championship wages.

The problem here is Rovers being unwilling to offer that.

You seem to have mis read. I think everyone is aware that they are currently the best we have in that position. My point is I don’t think either are irreplaceable and Tronstad now being a top earner is fair enough, but when he’s 32, legs going and not in the side earning 20k a week there will be many on here saying we need to offload him and he isn’t worth the 

Theres plenty of clubs throwing money about and I’m sure they’ll both get it.

I seem to recall your envy at Hull splashing the cash last summer. Finished well below us and now under an embargo.

Ive watched rovers and championship football long enough to know they are both replaceable and it doesn’t almost guarantee relegation by not renewing their contracts.

 

[vinotherover]

Probably be killed for saying this but in my opinion both trav and tron sould be sold as they will most likely not get the salary they are looking for and it's the last chance for us to make money from selling them as they will go for free. No point keeping them this season as the odds are we will not get promoted with them. I would sell and take a punt on a cheaper younger replacement and hope the potential turns into a quality player in a few years. 

[FE123]

1 hour ago, Exiled_Rover said:

No, there's another poster on here that doesn't rate Tronstad either.

He's rightfully mocked.

Who said I don’t rate? Decent player, breaks up play and uses the ball okay. 
 

Replaceable is my point

[Tim Southampton Rover]

Tugay was 30 years old when he signed for Rovers and he's arguably one of the greatest ever Rovers players. I'm not saying Tronstad is as good as Tugay but it's laughable when fans rule people out when they hit the big three zero. Tronstad is quality at this level and could easily stay at a great level for the next 3-5 years. 

[roversfan99]

There is definitely a growing snobbery towards players as soon as they hit 30. Especially in this (at times flawed) data driven modern day recruitment culture, with obsessions over projects and resale.

There is no reason why Tronstad couldnt perform for a good number of years yet. Only 30 and not reliant on his physicality, but his excellent footballing brain and good use of the ball. Also brings experience which projects and data dont really seem to place much importance in.

[Emerald Isle Rover]

5 minutes ago, FE123 said:

Who said I don’t rate? Decent player, breaks up play and uses the ball okay. 
 

Replaceable is my point

Most players are replaceable particularly at the level we play at however the concern from rovers fans is that the replacement won’t be of the same standard 

[Emerald Isle Rover]

4 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

There is definitely a growing snobbery towards players as soon as they hit 30. Especially in this (at times flawed) data driven modern day recruitment culture, with obsessions over projects and resale.

There is no reason why Tronstad couldnt perform for a good number of years yet. Only 30 and not reliant on his physicality, but his excellent footballing brain and good use of the ball. Also brings experience which projects and data dont really seem to place much importance in.

Agreed 100% too much emphasis on the business side of things and not enough emphasis on the player and their actual ability 

[London blue]

13 minutes ago, vinotherover said:

Probably be killed for saying this but in my opinion both trav and tron sould be sold as they will most likely not get the salary they are looking for and it's the last chance for us to make money from selling them as they will go for free. No point keeping them this season as the odds are we will not get promoted with them. I would sell and take a punt on a cheaper younger replacement and hope the potential turns into a quality player in a few years. 

I'll not kill you, but will point out that incoming funds mean next to nothing to this club.

Taking punts on cheap, young replacements is exactly what the club is doing and we'll see how wise it is to have those types of players as starting midfielders soon, I'm sure.

I'd rather they stayed and left for nothing next year. I'd rather the club didn't earn a penny in transfer fees for the foreseeable, to be honest.

[roversfan99]

1 hour ago, FE123 said:

Am I the only one who thinks Tronstad and Travis are solid but limited championship players who at soon to be aged 30 and 28 respectively aren’t worth offering circa 20k a week for 3 years that they will most certainly get else where?

They are 2 players who have proven themselves to be top performers at this level. They also bring experience and character to allow you to potentially bring in younger players around.

You speak about their age like they are 35. Both have a good number of years at this level and are at their peak. 

They are the sort of players youd want to build your side around.

[bluebruce]

4 hours ago, philipl said:

Dolan hasn't made that big a difference has he?

Weimann and Baath have more or less been replaced and there are signs, shock horror, of pace in the squad.

Eh? Been replaced with who? Have we signed a CB and an AM I haven't heard about? Last I knew we had only signed a CM and a LWB.

[islander200]

14 minutes ago, vinotherover said:

Probably be killed for saying this but in my opinion both trav and tron sould be sold as they will most likely not get the salary they are looking for and it's the last chance for us to make money from selling them as they will go for free. No point keeping them this season as the odds are we will not get promoted with them. I would sell and take a punt on a cheaper younger replacement and hope the potential turns into a quality player in a few years. 

But according to Gestede any money brought in through selling players won't be added to the budget.

He said the budget is set in the summer and it doesn't increase if we bring in money through sales 

At a normal run Club then yeah selling the players with only a year left on their deals and using the money received to replace them would be the sensible thing to do .But here the money received just means venkys are asked to send over less money to pay the bills 

[MB Rover]

53 minutes ago, Browjd said:

JRC as part Ethan Pye deal?

That’d make him cost more!

[bluebruce]

26 minutes ago, Tim Southampton Rover said:

Tugay was 30 years old when he signed for Rovers and he's arguably one of the greatest ever Rovers players. I'm not saying Tronstad is as good as Tugay but it's laughable when fans rule people out when they hit the big three zero. Tronstad is quality at this level and could easily stay at a great level for the next 3-5 years. 

In fairness, and whilst I don't think players should be ruled out when they hit 30, the problem is you don't know when someone is going to be finished once they're in their 30s. There is a fairly rapid loss of pace that everyone gets at some point in their 30s. Sometimes it seems to happen at as low as 31, sometimes it's mid or even late 30s. In a similar way, at some point players will also lose their recovery abilities in this age bracket. So they might start only being good for about half or so of the games in a season. And injury proneness is another factor that worsens.

It can be none of these really kick in for years, and some players do manage to work their game around a loss of pace, but it's fairly rare it doesn't become some sort of liability. Some players can also still be very useful squad players even if they're only fit half the time, but that doesn't warrant paying them top earner wages, which is likely what we're talking here.

It's fear of the unknown, the unknown being when this player will start to break down. And that's precisely why players usually start getting shorter contract offers in their 30s.

Again, it can absolutely work out for years, or it can fail (like yes, any signing), but the degree of risk undoubtedly increases in the 30s.

To be clear, I do want to keep Tronstad and would happily offer him a 3 year deal on decent wages.

Edited July 9 by bluebruce

[DutchRover]

In terms of Free Agents, Josh Koroma is one I wouldn't mind us looking at as a more experienced winger/forward.

Not that we seem to sign any...

Edited July 9 by DutchRover

[bluebruce]

9 minutes ago, islander200 said:

But according to Gestede any money brought in through selling players won't be added to the budget.

He said the budget is set in the summer and it doesn't increase if we bring in money through sales 

At a normal run Club then yeah selling the players with only a year left on their deals and using the money received to replace them would be the sensible thing to do .But here the money received just means venkys are asked to send over less money to pay the bills 

Somebody at a fans forum really needs to ask Gestede why no amount of sales can ever make a difference to the budget. It's a ludicrous position.

[davulsukur]

JRC leaving isn't a shock, clearly not rated by VI.

He's fallen victim to his injuries, lack of pace and to some extent, his versatility. He's been a good player for us and was excellent under JDT. Difficult to see where he fits in now though.

As always with these clowns, it's only the right move if the money is wisely reinvested. (which is won't be)

 

[Mercer]

Without doubt, our 3 key players are Brittain, Travis and Tronstad - all 30 or under.  Without those 3, even with average replacements, I think we would be sunk.  I don't think the age argument has any mileage.

Take the current PL Champions - arguably, their 3 key players are Alisson (32), VVD (34) and Salah (33).  Can you imagine the uproar if Liverpool lost those 3 players.  They are the glue that binds together the rest of the team and makes them the unit they are.

It would be devastating if we lost 1 of our 3 key players, disastrous if we lost 2 and catastrophic if we lost all 3.  Does anyone really believe we would replace any of them with even half decent players given the cheap and unproven, and sometimes unwanted by any other clubs, signings we are making.

 

[JHRover]

You're better off having a couple of proven performers who at some unknown point in future will deteriorate due to age, than having a couple of kids or unproven younger players in there who might never be good enough. 

We know Travis and Tronstad are good enough and we know that rivals will line up to take them off our hands. 

We don't know what on earth this regime has planned for their replacements other than they will be cheaper, which, generally, means inferior. 

Not to worry though, at least we've got Forshaw secured for another year!

With the way this club operates age and value mean nothing. We've had the good side of it - Adam Wharton - hit the jackpot then bundled him out the back door and never saw the transfer money again. We've had the other side of it - Adam Forshaw on short term deals. There is no plan or philosophy other than ££££££. If they can fill the gaps with 35 year olds they will as long as the contract terms tick the Venky boxes.

Don't delude yourselves that there is a long term build or they are focusing on development/building value. They aren't looking beyond the next couple of months and ensuring the vermin owners don't have to send as much cash over from Pune.