2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[Tomphil2]

1 hour ago, vinotherover said:

That's the point we have owners who are only willing to sustain the club keep the lights on so the club needs to make its own money salary cap will help but player sales are vital to be self sustainable and hopefully profitable so we don't have to rely on the owners. This will only work if we have the balls to sell these players at a time and age we're we can get the best value,

We cant keep losing players for free it's pointless holding on to them for another season in the hopes we get top six. 

That's why -within reason- they should invest by getting their contracts sorted way earlier and making them fair offers and doesn't just mean wages there might have to be trigger clauses inserted but so what ?

Better to include an agreeable trigger fee than hope they all turn into players 5 or 10 million is going to be bid for. It can be covered by some extent with add on's and sell on's.

The impression here is low offers or no offers hoping they'll grab what's put in front of them when their deals are ticking down but players have a recurring habit of hitting their best form when that's the case.  All this has gone on under the shadow bosses watch so it's down to him and he needs holding accountable by both his bosses in India and the fans.

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I just find it insane the the fambase is now becoming divided, all opinions of course but its sad to see 

[Tomphil2]

2 hours ago, JHRover said:

Is there something wrong with a midfield aged 30 and 28? You make out like that is old, or unusual. Or that it is advantageous to have a couple of teenagers there instead who we will simply release or sell as soon as we can anyway. 

You also seem to be contradicting yourself. You confirm that they will most certainly get 3 years and decent money elsewhere (not sure where you've found the £20k a week figure from) yet suggest they aren't worth that. Well if they can get it elsewhere that suggests they are worth that. We can either pay the going rate or lose them and most certainly decline as a result. Our choice. 

I am concerned that you are doing exactly what the regime wants - accepting their decision making based on a belief that these sort of players should be let go because either they are 'too old' or their wage demands are excessive, and there's no evidence for either of those things.

They are simply Championship proven performers coveted by rivals because they are good and therefore able to command Championship wages.

The problem here is Rovers being unwilling to offer that.

A new narrative is now being formed around '£20 grand a week' knowing that Rovers best paid players are generally on less and most of them are on way less.

So now everyone is asking for 20k a week because it suits the 'not worth it' argument it's the new '20 million a year' !

[K-Hod]

1 hour ago, JBiz said:

You say this all the time but if you go and sign up to the Swiss ramble, you’d see that most the money that comes in is spent on wages. Aka back into the team.

Let’s try this another way, Joe.

We sell players for money that doesn’t go back into buying their replacements.

[Waggy76]

2 hours ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Well you believed last year signing Ohashi Gueye batth weimann that we were doomed and set for relegation 

so I suppose anything is possible 

True to a point  but we had Eustace as manager , who is a far superior manager than the one we have now !

[Waggy76]

1 hour ago, islander200 said:

Do you think all the other championship clubs don't lose money?No matter how big our wages are, no matter how much we spend in the market its a 20 million loss per year.

When we had Rhodes on 35k a week and other big earners and spent more than we do now then it costs the owners 20 million to keep the club running.

When we have one of the lowest wage budgets in the league and spend minimally on transfer fees and sell players for big money it still costs the owners 20 million to keep the club running.

Why is this?

The answer to that question is probably the reason why the club ,has not  been sold  !

[JBiz]

20 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

Let’s try this another way, Joe.

We sell players for money that doesn’t go back into buying their replacements.

Nice of teams to give us Van Veen, Tavares, Cantwell, Kargbo, Ohashi, Gueye et al for free isn’t it!

Before you reply with another single sentence “tbh”, if you spent some time reading how much our meagre wage bill compares to our turnover, you might be able to offer more nuance to discussion.

[TurkishDelight]

9 minutes ago, Waggy76 said:

True to a point  but we had Eustace as manager , who is a far superior manager than the one we have now !

Is he? Eustace win % 43, VI win % 49. Managed 100 matches more. Give him his season and we will see how he does. 

To be fair this transferwindow can be shite or it can be the best we've had (i don't hold my breath). 50 days left of the window. We all want a better side going in to the season than the team who finished last season. 

[K-Hod]

5 minutes ago, JBiz said:

Nice of teams to give us Van Veen, Tavares, Cantwell, Kargbo, Ohashi, Gueye et al for free isn’t it!

Before you reply with another single sentence “tbh”, if you spent some time reading how much our meagre wage bill compares to our turnover, you might be able to offer more nuance to discussion.

Compared to what we’ve received in transfer fees, what we’ve spent is a pittance, in comparison though.

I know that our meagre wage bill doesn’t compare well to our turnover, that’s true of so many clubs.
It’s Venky’s fault, so they need to put it right and come up with the shortfall. If they are unwilling to do that, then they should sell the club, it really is as simple as that.

[lraC]

8 minutes ago, Waggy76 said:

The answer to that question is probably the reason why the club ,has not  been sold  !

Agreed as I suspect people would choke, if they saw, who was on the pay roll. 

[JBiz]

5 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

Compared to what we’ve received in transfer fees, what we’ve spent is a pittance, in comparison though.

I know that our meagre wage bill doesn’t compare well to our turnover, that’s true of so many clubs.
It’s Venky’s fault, so they need to put it right and come up with the shortfall. If they are unwilling to do that, then they should sell the club, it really is as simple as that.

If your wage bill is 20m, and your turnover is 10m. What do you think plugs that gap? Especially if you’ve got skint or absent owners?

Player sales. I also don’t understand how you split transfer fees and wages as if they’re not intrinsically linked.

Of course, Venkys should either invest or fuck off but that’s not got anything to do with saying that none of the money from player sales has been invested. 

[K-Hod]

6 minutes ago, JBiz said:

If your wage bill is 20m, and your turnover is 10m. What do you think plugs that gap? Especially if you’ve got skint or absent owners?

Player sales. I also don’t understand how you split transfer fees and wages as if they’re not intrinsically linked.

Of course, Venkys should either invest or fuck off but that’s not got anything to do with saying that none of the money from player sales has been invested. 

Not nearly enough of it has, which is my issue.

See, we do agree!!

[JBiz]

1 minute ago, K-Hod said:

Not nearly enough of it has, which is my issue.

So the club is sitting with millions in the bank?

I agree with all the facts regarding poor decisions with contracts, negligent owners and directors but ultimately, where has this money gone if it’s not propping up barely competitive wage structure?

[Penwortham Blue]

5 hours ago, Mercer said:

Told JRC has gone.

Not seen it reported elsewhere.

Would be very surprised as imagine that he got a decent deal when he signed the last contract, can’t recall whether it was a 3 or 5 year deal. Would have thought that it might be difficult to shift him or Buckley given their existing well paid contracts.

[Mercer]

7 minutes ago, Penwortham Blue said:

Would be very surprised as imagine that he got a decent deal when he signed the last contract, can’t recall whether it was a 3 or 5 year deal. Would have thought that it might be difficult to shift him or Buckley given their existing well paid contracts.

Both JRC and Buckley, like Dolan, progressed through 'the ranks' and we know what Rovers' pay policy seems to be with those type of lads.

Although I understand JRC and Buckley earn sizeably more than Dolan did, I think you will find both are some distance away from Rovers' alleged new wage cap of £10k per week.  Not as difficult to shift as you might think.

[DutchRover]

Worth bearing in mind that not all players are Rodwell either, they might be happy to accept a lower wage in order to play 1st team football rather than sit on bench for a manager who clearly doesn't rate them.

[Forever Blue]

2 hours ago, JBiz said:

It all depends on the money in the bank though, are you trying to compare us to a parachute payment team, or a city with larger turnover and/or ambitious owners?

Id love for the Rao’s to fuck off like anyone here, but just shutting down any sales conversation with a “the money disappears tbh” makes this thread even more pointless.

Especially when the facts regarding our finance are available for anyone to read.

Coventry are a good example. Raked in about £35m from sales and spent about £25m on new players. They don’t have parachute payments, they just reinvested the proceeds from players sold. 
 

We’ve raked in similar and spent fuck all. 

Those are the facts.

[roversfan99]

The thing is, its not just a case of them putting that money in. Its an investment, not just putting money in.

Thats how successful trading clubs operate. The money you reinvest is spent on assets that you can then sell on.

Reinvesting can actually be the only way to REDUCE losses if you do it properly.

[islander200]

Just now, Forever Blue said:

Coventry are a good example. Raked in about £35m from sales and spent about £25m on new players. They don’t have parachute payments, they just reinvested the proceeds from players sold. 
 

We’ve raked in similar and spent fuck all. 

Those are the facts.

Championship financial heavy weights Millwall sold their star young player to Palace last season and immediately broke their transfer record and signed other players on permanent deals for cash. 

Worlds away from what we did when we sold our biggest talent 

[arbitro]

1 minute ago, islander200 said:

Championship financial heavy weights Millwall sold their star young player to Palace last season and immediately broke their transfer record and signed other players on permanent deals for cash. 

Worlds away from what we did when we sold our biggest talent 

They have a nice wedge coming in soon as the loan deal for Flemming became permanent when that lot got promoted. It's rumoured £7m.

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Im still waiting for the phonecall.

I'll even wash my own kit 

[Forever Blue]

4 minutes ago, islander200 said:

Championship financial heavy weights Millwall sold their star young player to Palace last season and immediately broke their transfer record and signed other players on permanent deals for cash. 

Worlds away from what we did when we sold our biggest talent 

I’m amazed it needs explaining to be honest, but apparently it still does. 

[islander200]

2 minutes ago, arbitro said:

They have a nice wedge coming in soon as the loan deal for Flemming became permanent when that lot got promoted. It's rumoured £7m.

And Millwall are going again reportedly paying/paid £5 million for Corburn from Boro who they had on loan last season 

[Emerald Isle Rover]

1 hour ago, JBiz said:

If your wage bill is 20m, and your turnover is 10m. What do you think plugs that gap? Especially if you’ve got skint or absent owners?

Player sales. I also don’t understand how you split transfer fees and wages as if they’re not intrinsically linked.

Of course, Venkys should either invest or fuck off but that’s not got anything to do with saying that none of the money from player sales has been invested. 

We don’t have skint owners……and he corrected himself by saying little of the money is significantly reinvested into the playing squad 

[JBiz]

8 minutes ago, Forever Blue said:

Coventry are a good example. Raked in about £35m from sales and spent about £25m on new players. They don’t have parachute payments, they just reinvested the proceeds from players sold. 
 

We’ve raked in similar and spent fuck all. 

Those are the facts.

https://www.ccfc.co.uk/news/2025/february/27/news--coventry-city-football-club-limited-file-accounts-for-year-ended-31st-may-2024/
 

Doesn’t read like a club run by shits does it? But also doesn’t change the facts on both balance sheet. They are growing their turnover as well as investing in new players.

So is our money sitting in the bank then or what?