2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[alexanders]

FFP and they way the big boys have changed everything has destroyed so much. I agree that Venkys have been horrible owners in a lot of aspects, but it is impossible to say if we would be better off with other owners or the existing owners. Football has changed a lot the last decade and unfortunately in favour of the big few. Just look at Club World cup. Its farcical. Donald Trump handing over a throphy in a meaningless cup. Makes me puke. 

[chaddyrovers]

23 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Yes you are quite right - we spend on the academy and have category 1 status - so that is the place for young players to play and develop, not the first XI, where the ONLY focus should be on winning games and trying to get promoted.

Far too much talk these days of projects, pathways, development. 

It is a way of lots of people making lots of money. These owners and their goons in the shadows will NEVER allow us to benefit from such a model in any event. It needs stability, reinvestment, good management, all in short supply here. 

Selling Adam Wharton did not, as far as I can see, benefit Blackburn Rovers in any way. It didn't release important funds for facilities or new players, it didn't lead to a better future, it just meant the revolting owners saved themselves the need to transfer their own funds from India. Whoop de doo. 

Remember that we aren't a club that offers Championship level wages or even makes an effort to keep important players like our academy developed captain. So what's the point? 

Even when they make the grade and go on to become Championship standard players we will either sell them and see none of the cash or release them because we can't be bothered paying them the going rate. 

How do young players get through to first team squad? How are they meant to develop and get used to first team tactic unless you play them and get them training with the first team like Ismael and JDT. 

So I take it you don't agree with Ismael creating a pathway for Tyjon to play and develop here? 

 

[roversfan99]

We are nowhere near FFP limits.

And pretty easy to say that we would be better off without Venkys.

[chaddyrovers]

27 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Indeed. We cant just build a smaller squad and assume numerous graduates can have a breakthrough season similtaneously. It puts far too much pressure on them when we have no idea if they are currently ready, and its very unlikely that they all will be.

So how do young players come through to first team squad then? Good job Adam Wharton pathway wasn't blocked by senior player isn't it. 

Why can't you have 25 man with Michalski, Montgomery and Tyjon part of that squad? 

[Mercer]

46 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Seems like we have gone for him having been unable to afford our main targets.

and we desperately needed another body in quickly with Carter's cramp!

 

[Tomphil2]

5 minutes ago, alexanders said:

FFP and they way the big boys have changed everything has destroyed so much. I agree that Venkys have been horrible owners in a lot of aspects, but it is impossible to say if we would be better off with other owners or the existing owners. Football has changed a lot the last decade and unfortunately in favour of the big few. Just look at Club World cup. Its farcical. Donald Trump handing over a throphy in a meaningless cup. Makes me puke. 

We've been straight with FFP for a while and recently has  probably been the best opportunity in a decade to invest in the squad significantly.

Coupled with the good periods of form and league position at Christmas by not 1 not 2 but 3 previous head coaches the time was never better to give the club a real push but no they didn't want to know.  Oh so conveniently they can't invest because there is a problem over in India of their own making.

The FFP excuse might have stood up in the past but no any more.

[roversfan99]

Just now, chaddyrovers said:

So how do young players come through to first team squad then? Good job Adam Wharton pathway wasn't blocked by senior player isn't it. 

Why can't you have 25 man with Michalski, Montgomery and Tyjon part of that squad? 

Pathways and projects. 

They can still be part of the squad without us just assuming that they are all ready. Some might go out on loan at various points too. All I am saying is we shouldnt just assume that they are ready. So for example, we need a right back if Brittain goes. We needed Tavares and will need to replace Travis/Tronstad if they go. Montgomery shouldnt be seen as a replacement in any of those positions. If hes ready, theres no reason that he cant also play minutes as well. But if hes not, then we dont have to still repeatedly flog him.

Equally, we need cover for Cantwell. We shouldnt just assume that Tyjon is ready now. Its unfair to do so.

[Exiled_Rover]

4 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

So how do young players come through to first team squad then? Good job Adam Wharton pathway wasn't blocked by senior player isn't it. 

Why can't you have 25 man with Michalski, Montgomery and Tyjon part of that squad? 

I was under the impression you didn't have to register players under 21 for the squad?

[roversfan99]

3 minutes ago, Mercer said:

and we desperately needed another body in quickly with Carter's cramp!

 

 

[M_B]

11 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said:

 

 

Did he slip?

Did his "cover" in front of him do his job properly ? Had he been left with 2 to mark? 

Did these successful dribbles result in poor delivery, because Mclaughlin had pushed his man onto his "wrong" foot?

 

 

[M_B]

45 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

You are fixated on policing specifically on my "negativity." Another poster literally described the player as terrible yesterday.

I think its a decent enough signing and the above "issue" was simply a neutral observation. He wasnt the first choice.

The comment about experience was more across the board, experience going out and none before this coming in. I said when the link came out that McLoughlin will help to address that.

You couldn't possibly know whether he was or wasn't first choice. 

[Neal]

50 minutes ago, JHRover said:

So we should be proud and happy that a lad developed through our academy, a Rovers fan, is ushered out the back door in the dying days of January for a relatively small fee to what was a smaller club until this lot took over, and then none of that  money is used to improve or advance Rovers in any way?

I'm pleased for Adam and his family and delighted he's developed but totally ashamed of Rovers' conduct before and since his sale. 

You'll eat shit and like it...

 

Pay for it even.

[Mercer]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

If Brittain or leaves, I would play Montgomery as Centre midfielder for his ability to get box to box and energy,

Delusional and laughable.

21 year old Montgomery last season spent time at Marine and Chorley seemingly going nowhere other than the exit door.  Played very limited time in our 1st team and suddenly you think he can step into the shoes of Travis or Tronstadt!?!?

If the capability for our centre midfield is the energy to run box to box then maybe our scouting focus should shift to Blackburn Harriers!

 

Edited 5 hours ago by Mercer

[roversfan99]

9 minutes ago, M_B said:

You couldn't possibly know whether he was or wasn't first choice. 

Well we know little for sure. Its surely a safe assumption based on widely reporting bids in particular for Kapuadi.

[JHRover]

20 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

How do young players get through to first team squad? How are they meant to develop and get used to first team tactic unless you play them and get them training with the first team like Ismael and JDT. 

So I take it you don't agree with Ismael creating a pathway for Tyjon to play and develop here? 

 

No problem at all with them training with the first team. 

They 'get through' when they are good enough to force their way in - either by taking advantage of a gap appearing e.g. suspension or injury, or when the manager deems them good enough.

I find it interesting that this is precisely what happened with JDT and Adam Wharton - he got his opportunity when it arose during the season after impressing in the cup, seized it and never looked back. It was a natural process - he was clearly good enough and his transition into the first team was handled well by the coaching staff. 

This obsession however with 'creating a pathway' - the purpose of Blackburn Rovers and the nature of the Championship beast is not to 'create pathways' for youngsters - it is to win games and try to be successful AS A CLUB, not for individuals and their transfer values or so Venky stooges can be congratulated on future sales. 

[K-Hod]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

They didn't want to stay here. 

@JHRoverDeveloping 3 young players within the first team squad isn't going to sacrifice results is it? Michalski and Tyjon are highly rated and Montgomery has shown enough he can made an impact at this level, so why wouldnt you develop them given we already invest in our academy and why we have category 1 status 

It absolutely could do, if they're thrown into the first team too quickly and make loads of mistakes.

Then dent their confidence in the process and their careers never recover.

Countless examples of that over the years.

[lraC]

19 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

I was under the impression you didn't have to register players under 21 for the squad?

I think that's correct.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

9 hours ago, ... said:

That really puts it into perspective how weak we are

Yeah, just look at the subs bench. A vital part of modern day football.

[JHRover]

31 minutes ago, alexanders said:

 but it is impossible to say if we would be better off with other owners or the existing owners. 

I'd say that a Burnley fan would have struggled to make more of a mess than the existing owners, so on balance I'm pretty confident in saying that with other owners we would have been better off. Maybe still a Championship club yes, but at least one that operates like a football club should. 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

8 hours ago, Fraserkirky said:

😂😂😂😂😂
got a pope like reception

I reckon that’s Pickering’s sick bucket the lad is carrying.

[Mercer]

17 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

 

Firstly, how many posters on this MB have referred to Carter's 'cramp' injury so what is unique about my post?

Secondly, for the umpteenth time, I am not part of the Twatterati so stop linking me to any other poster(s) on there.  It is unnecessarily annoying, boring and repetitive.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

3 hours ago, Mercer said:

De Neve signed as a winger (where he played mostly for his last club) who can also play wing back.

Anyhow, the key point is, if he hasn't been signed as Weimann's direct replacement, we have neither replaced Batth nor Weimann yet and bear in mind Batth was an outstanding performer for us last season and Weimann had excellent impact and delivered when we needed it with both goals and assists.

Age is irrelevant - it's the quality and ability to perform - Cowans, Moran, Gale etc and presently for other clubs Messi (38), Ronaldo (40), Modric (39) etc

It’s certainly more of an irrelevance for centre backs. Them and goalkeepers tend to go on the longest.

[roversfan99]

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/25321923.blackburn-rovers-reignite-transfer-interest-fill-hole/

Rovers are on the lookout for a left-sided centre-back all summer. They were unable to land Steve Kapuadi from Legia Warsaw and have now turned their attentions to McLoughlin.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

36 minutes ago, Mercer said:

and we desperately needed another body in quickly with Carter's cramp!

 

I feel sorry for the lad. The last time I had cramp it only lasted a couple minutes. He must have a chronic case.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

33 minutes ago, M_B said:

Did he slip?

Did his "cover" in front of him do his job properly ? Had he been left with 2 to mark? 

Did these successful dribbles result in poor delivery, because Mclaughlin had pushed his man onto his "wrong" foot?

 

 

I agree. Just bare individual stats don’t always tell a proper story in a team game. If you’re a full back and your winger isn’t pulling his weight defensively you may get beaten from time to time.