2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[roversfan99]

2 minutes ago, Jimmy612 said:

The bit in bold is a load of bollocks, frankly.  How would you go about convincing Phillips and his agent that he should stay at Rovers, instead of joining a club like Spurs?  It was an absolute no brainer for him.  Since he moved he's played 50 games at Championship level, been paid considerably more than Rovers would have been able to afford for an 18 year old, and will have loads of offers if and when Spurs decide he hasn't made the grade.  At worst he'll join another Championship club when he's 22/23.

What could Broughton have possibly said to sway him to stay at Rovers?  It was either get a release clause of £2m OR go down the tribunal route, which is always absolute bobbins. Can anyone tell me what we've been paid from Newcastle for Finneran yet? 

Going to Spurs made him go from 5th choice to 6th or 7th. 

But he was close enough to our first team for us not to be able to consider loaning him out, even if he had been on a long deal. You can fall beneath the cracks then, often an unused sub or going back to the under 21s.

At Spurs, he isnt needed in the first team so theyve been able to choose really well selected loan moves whereby he hasnt had to go below the Championship but hes also managed to playe every week.

RevidgeBlue has a real unhealthy disdain towards Broughton but ultimately especially with the lack of protection offered to clubs regarding youngsters (something we have taken advantage of with Tyjon and others) he was fairly powerless.

[Lucimo]

2 hours ago, Danny O.Brien said:

I really think if ohashi can stay fit and with a full pre season behind him can go and get 20+ goals this season. Maybe that's more hope than belief. He has shown already he can score all different types of goals. I think gueye offers something completely different, he's never going to score as many but can play a big role with what he does do. So I've no problem with those two competing up front. That is of course unless we have the chance to bring in some real quality. I'd be more concerned with the rest of the team especially out wide contributing with goals and assists. That is where our attention should be focused. Outside of signing up Travis trons dad and brittain. 

We aren't really considering signing Trons Dad surely. Mind you, this is Venky world we operate in, so i wouldn't be surprised.😉

[bluebruce]

50 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

We didn't gain much from it though did we? One moment we're all crowing about what a masterstroke it was to tie Phillips down to a new deal, 12 months later we learn that actually it had a clause in allowing him to leave for relative peanuts.

I found it quite odd. Like we were just keeping him warm for Spurs for 12 months. I presume we would have been entitled to some form of compensation for him anyway?

We learned it at the time (well, via rumour). Yes we would have been entitled to compo anyway, but not as good as we got (2.5 million with as much again in potential add ons I believe...I think we would have got about 1 mill without). It was frustrating, but it's better than how Finneran did us.

What matters is we don't let it happen again with Tyjon and Higgins.

[Emerald Isle Rover]

6 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

That LT piece does seem to just be an attempt to cobble together an update partly based on assumptions.

The Montgomery bit is strange journalism. For a start, a number 6 is a centre back. Dont let the modern day jargon fool you. But they havent "ruled out" playing him in his natural position?

I would be very surprised if the Badarji deal happens now. Surely there are alternatives on a list that are actually fit should that be a profile of player that we desperately want?

Right wing is the obvious main weakness at the moment. A right footed centre back, again yes we need. A number 10 as to not over burden Tyjon would certainly be something I agree with and if its something we do, chaddy will be fuming.

Striker has slipped off the list, concern is still not even about the fact that I dont think that Gueye is good enough, which I dont, but moreso when Ohashi tires/is injured, we dont have a like for like replacement that can slot into the side without a change of tactic.

Hopefully we can get a winger in as a minimum before the NEC game next week.

modern day jargon or not a number 6 in today’s game isn’t necessarily a centre back I’d say it’s best described as a holding midfielder

they haven’t ruled out playing him in his natural position  - right back 

so he can be an option as holding mid or a right back if/when required 

[Forever Blue]

6 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

That’s good because we haven’t got any.

How do you know?

[Exiled_Rover]

5 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

We learned it at the time (well, via rumour). Yes we would have been entitled to compo anyway, but not as good as we got (2.5 million with as much again in potential add ons I believe...I think we would have got about 1 mill without). It was frustrating, but it's better than how Finneran did us.

What matters is we don't let it happen again with Tyjon and Higgins.

There's literally no reason why Tyjon or Higgins won't do the same. 

Why would they sign on here when apparently signing for Arsenal et al and being loaned out for 3 years is much more preferable. 

[Exiled_Rover]

4 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

modern day jargon or not a number 6 in today’s game isn’t necessarily a centre back I’d say it’s best described as a holding midfielder

they haven’t ruled out playing him in his natural position  - right back 

so he can be an option as holding mid or a right back if/when required 

He's very clearly not a RB - you can see that from watching him for 20 minutes.

Can he play there? Yes, in the same way Travis can play there. 

[roversfan99]

5 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

modern day jargon or not a number 6 in today’s game isn’t necessarily a centre back I’d say it’s best described as a holding midfielder

they haven’t ruled out playing him in his natural position  - right back 

so he can be an option as holding mid or a right back if/when required 

Number 6 (and 5) traditionally are centre backs. 4 is holding midfield.

Isnt Montgomery a natural central midfielder rather than a right back?

[Forever Blue]

7 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Number 6 (and 5) traditionally are centre backs. 4 is holding midfield.

Isnt Montgomery a natural central midfielder rather than a right back?

The numbers have changed. Depends when you started watching football which you prefer. 
 

Monty is a CM. 

[MarkBRFC]

1 hour ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

All those 3 requirements are going to cost serious money not magic beans. Unlrss they are all back ups like Forshaw and Sanderson was.

I'm pretty confident that they will all be back up's, as all our other signings have been.

Then those back up's will become starters next season when another load of players leave for nothing, rinse and repeat.

We don't improve the first 11 here, not a priority.

Edited yesterday at 13:39 by MarkBRFC

[Emerald Isle Rover]

37 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Number 6 (and 5) traditionally are centre backs. 4 is holding midfield.

Isnt Montgomery a natural central midfielder rather than a right back?

This isn’t about tradition - you listen and watch the experts talk about the 6 role the 8 role pivots etc it’s now deemed a defensive midfielder 

yes sorry he’s a natural midfielder who can play right back like jrc 

[Emerald Isle Rover]

4 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

I'm pretty confident that they will all be back up's, as all our other signings have been.

Then those back up's will become starters next season, rinse and repeat.

We don't improve the first 11 here, not a priority.

So who’s playing left wing then?

[MarkBRFC]

18 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

So who’s playing left wing then?

De Neve, because Dolan has left and they have had to put Hedges on the other side.

[Forever Blue]

De Neve and Kargbo on left.

Hedges and new signing on right. 

[dingles staying down 4ever]

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

Number 6 (and 5) traditionally are centre backs. 4 is holding midfield.

Isnt Montgomery a natural central midfielder rather than a right back?

No.4 and 8 were midfielders not holding not box to box, just midfielders. They were expected to do it all. When one attacked the other held or vice versa.

Although at Liverpool, Stevie Nicol usually wore 4 and he was a right back

[Exiled_Rover]

32 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

De Neve, because Dolan has left and they have had to put Hedges on the other side.

Plus he's clearly better than Hedges.

[MarkBRFC]

7 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Plus he's clearly better than Hedges.

I reckon if Dolan was still here, then Hedges would still be first choice on the left.

[yankfan]

2 hours ago, MarkBRFC said:

Out for 3 months with a stress fracture in his back.

So we’re 💯 in on him the? 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

2 hours ago, Forever Blue said:

How do you know?

The writing off of the women’s team was a bit of a clue. Not renewing the contracts of key players. Setting the 10 k cap for new signings. Shall I go on ?

[Exiled_Rover]

2 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Going to Spurs made him go from 5th choice to 6th or 7th. 

But he was close enough to our first team for us not to be able to consider loaning him out, even if he had been on a long deal. You can fall beneath the cracks then, often an unused sub or going back to the under 21s.

At Spurs, he isnt needed in the first team so theyve been able to choose really well selected loan moves whereby he hasnt had to go below the Championship but hes also managed to playe every week.

RevidgeBlue has a real unhealthy disdain towards Broughton but ultimately especially with the lack of protection offered to clubs regarding youngsters (something we have taken advantage of with Tyjon and others) he was fairly powerless.

I'm tired of this topic now, but after their rash of injuries they preferred Gray (a younger player who's a CM) over him at CB. So I don't think he's even on the radar for their first team.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

2 hours ago, Exiled_Rover said:

He's very clearly not a RB - you can see that from watching him for 20 minutes.

Can he play there? Yes, in the same way Travis can play there. 

Yeah, watching him play at right back tells me he’s more suited to the short passing,  harrying game of a central midfield player. When he got into good crossing positions he didn’t trust himself to put a good ball in. He’d only be a stop gap/emergency right back for me. As you say - like Travis is/was.

Edited yesterday at 15:06 by Tyrone Shoelaces

[USABlue]

4 hours ago, Tomphil2 said:

Look where Tosin was at 20 ?

Look where he is now, there is obviously still a great career path to be had on the books of the big boys but you need to a bit fortunate and also stand out wherever you're sent.

Doubt Ash will be as good as him though and he'll have been sold the dream of being in Spuds squad almost instantly in order to blag him and his parents. Now they'll be loaning him to the best place for a shop window job and at a club who themselves could probably buy him if they really wanted to.

It still would have made as much if not more sense footballing wise staying here, but not as much wonga and ego obviously.

I don't think it had anything to do with dreams, just money in the short term.

[USABlue]

3 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

If Spurs manage to sell Phillips on for the same or more than they've paid for him, then the move can't be considered a failure from their point of view, they've taken a look at him and decided he's not what they want at their level, nothing lost, move on.

From Phillips point of view the move is a success, financially he'll probably be set up very nicely.

The only ones to lose out are Rovers due to Broughton not being able to persuade Phillips his future lay here for a few years and us therefore being forced to sell him after 12 months for a fraction of the fee we would have realised had he spent a few years here, excelled and had he not had a contract with a ridiculously low release clause.

Broughtons fault?  Go figure.  Greg had nothing to do with the purse strings staying pulled shut tight did he?

[Forever Blue]

22 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

The writing off of the women’s team was a bit of a clue. Not renewing the contracts of key players. Setting the 10 k cap for new signings. Shall I go on ?

Not really cos it’s not relevant. None of that means there isn’t any money for transfers. We’ve already signed 4. We want 4 more. Most will be permanent signings involving an outlay just as the first 4 were. 
 

 

[USABlue]

3 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Youve done well to pin it on Broughton.

The same man who brought us Tronstad and Hyam who you really dont rate.

Ah just clicked for me.