2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[DutchRover]

I wonder if when we get relegated Pasha might finally be pushed out, especially with Glen saying its already close. I don't believe Venkys want a relegation, it makes no financial sense due to the lost revenue. 

Last two times it seems Pasha had this much control were during our relegation from Prem with Jerome, and the Coyle relegation made up of a team of cheap nobodies from across Europe; wait that sounds familiar...

Mowbray was able to strong-arm Pasha to side for a bit at least because of the relegation and get Venkys to give him money, so another relegation might provide the same opportunity (not for Gestede urgh)

Ultimately, that's scraping barrel for positivity, Venkys need to sell, they just don't care.

[Tomphil2]

53 minutes ago, M_B said:

Looks like it, the damage has been done so we  now need to see a pattern of players being sold . 

Absolutely totally and utterly to the contrary.

What we need to see is all those players being kept to get us through this season, allow the new ones to bed in and just try to stay out of the bottom spots.

No point whatsoever grabbing what will only be a few million quid to weaken the team even further and see next to nothing reinvested and a load more lightweight non Championship newbies come in.

Selling anyone else is a pointless exercise unless 3 to 5 mill per player is dropping into the bank, which there is no chance of.

Why are some so dead set on going with the Suhail agenda and clearing everyone out 'because they won't sign' ?

We are fecked either way so for now stick don't twist we've had enough pain this summer lets not rubber stamp relegation under some fantasy that better replacements are on their way and will gel in a few weeks.

[Mercer]

42 minutes ago, KentExile said:

Valerien Ismael says decisions have been made on which young players will go out on loan with Jake Batty and Harry Leonard likely to go out

Not that I expect Leonard to impact the starting 11, but this will leave us with just 2 strikers in Ohashi & Gueye and still only looking for 1 extra player?   But that is a right winger, not a striker

It genuinely looks like an act self sabotage 

* I am in favour of loaning Leonard out.  But surely we need to be bringing in someone else, even if its a short term stop gap on loan whilst he is away

Jackson:

"Nick Michalski, Kristi Montgomery and Igor Tyjon are all now considered as first-team players" 

• Michalski:  Think he would benefit more from a full season in either League 1 or 2 rather than mainly sitting on the bench as number 2 to Toth and if Toth gets injured.....??????  Think it's clear we need an experienced back-up.
• Montgomery:  God help us if this lad is considered a 1st team player.  At 21, it's not a case of 'he's not ready', I think it's a case of he's clearly not good enough!  I honestly can't see any footballing ability there and think he would struggle to hold down a place with a National League club.  Can't even hold a candle to Jason Lowe, and that's saying something, who by Montgomery's age had racked up over 30+ PL appearances!
• Tyjon:  at 17 he clearly has talent but I don't think he's ready for Championship football - also physically needs to develop.

As for Batty and Leonard, it's surely make a or break for their Rovers' career whilst out on loan.

 

 

[KentExile]

17 minutes ago, Mercer said:

Jackson:

"Nick Michalski, Kristi Montgomery and Igor Tyjon are all now considered as first-team players" 

• Michalski:  Think he would benefit more from a full season in either League 1 or 2 rather than mainly sitting on the bench as number 2 to Toth and if Toth gets injured.....??????  Think it's clear we need an experienced back-up.
• Montgomery:  God help us if this lad is considered a 1st team player.  At 21, it's not a case of 'he's not ready', I think it's a case of he's clearly not good enough!  I honestly can't see any footballing ability there and think he would struggle to hold down a place with a National League club.  Can't even hold a candle to Jason Lowe, and that's saying something, who by Montgomery's age had racked up over 30+ PL appearances!
• Tyjon:  at 17 he clearly has talent but I don't think he's ready for Championship football - also physically needs to develop.

As for Batty and Leonard, it's surely make a or break for their Rovers' career whilst out on loan.

 

 

Man City have a goalkeeper who is the same age as Michalski, but who is ahead of Michalski in the England set up

He is on loan at Rochdale in the National League

That is the level that Michalski is at now, not League 1 or 2

Batty is not 21 until after this season is over, he has plenty of time on his side to continue to develop... Leonard with his injuries less so.  But given where Rovers are heading under Venkys, they might not need to develop much more to be first teamers at the level we end up at either next season, or the one after

I always suspect that people who think that 20 year olds are at the point of "make or break" in their careers, have probably been playing too much Football Manager 😉 

Edited 2 hours ago by KentExile

[pick32]

Montgomery is awful 

[Mike E]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

Ismael has been straight talker, open and honest about the Travis's fanbase and the fact Travis has asked to leave Rovers. Is that wrong? being open and honest with the supporters, is that what we want as Supporters? 

Should the Travis's contract situation been sort by now? of course it should have been. A new contract and terms should have been sorted about 12 months ago and he should be seeing out the next 4 years here. Same as Brittain, Tronstad and Hyam. Hyam's contract should be easy one to sort out. A new 3 years contract with 16k a week plus bonuses based on performance. Same with Tronstad now and similar deal with Hyam. Rovers should be offering new contracts to Yuki Ohashi, Karbgo and Toth now. 

I noticed that Sreenivasa Rao was there on Tuesday against Bradford, anyone know why? 

He absolutely hasn’t been open and honest at all, he’s tried to throw our captain under the bus.

[Tugayisgod]

Pululu not involved tonight in his sides Europa conference game v silkeborg ?

[BlackburnEnd75]

14 minutes ago, pick32 said:

Montgomery is awful 

I'm trying really hard to not draw the same conclusion.

My only defence of him is he's definitely not a right back. 

Looks mobile but not a lot else.

[Nipper1875]

24 minutes ago, Mercer said:

Jackson:

"Nick Michalski, Kristi Montgomery and Igor Tyjon are all now considered as first-team players" 

• Michalski:  Think he would benefit more from a full season in either League 1 or 2 rather than mainly sitting on the bench as number 2 to Toth and if Toth gets injured.....??????  Think it's clear we need an experienced back-up.
• Montgomery:  God help us if this lad is considered a 1st team player.  At 21, it's not a case of 'he's not ready', I think it's a case of he's clearly not good enough!  I honestly can't see any footballing ability there and think he would struggle to hold down a place with a National League club.  Can't even hold a candle to Jason Lowe, and that's saying something, who by Montgomery's age had racked up over 30+ PL appearances!
• Tyjon:  at 17 he clearly has talent but I don't think he's ready for Championship football - also physically needs to develop.

As for Batty and Leonard, it's surely make a or break for their Rovers' career whilst out on loan.

 

 

Youve named them yet id pick tyjon and leonard before gueye - more chance them 2 scoring 10 than gueye and as for kargbo well someone from u7s can control and run with ball better than that forest gump 

[Emerald Isle Rover]

3 minutes ago, Nipper1875 said:

Youve named them yet id pick tyjon and leonard before gueye - more chance them 2 scoring 10 than gueye and as for kargbo well someone from u7s can control and run with ball better than that forest gump 

Not sure how you have come to that conclusion with Leonard’s stats tbh 

[bluebruce]

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

Are we seeing the pattern in senior players not renewing their contracts yet?

You know that Lemony Snickett here will just see it all as An Unfortunate Series of Events.

[BRFC.]

4 hours ago, bigbrandjohn said:

It's all relative i guess.

It isn't great and the culture has changed dramatically.

But we could have our stand closed and our players not paid for months, so our key players tear our contracts up and go to Wrexham et al on a free leaving our time full of academy players under 21 who play in the Northern Counties league. 

It will very likely be us in the future tho, and as sad as it is at Sheff W just because their players aren’t being paid it doesn’t mean we should accept asset stripping and this mess at the club 

[Tomphil2]

30 minutes ago, pick32 said:

Montgomery is awful 

He was doing well at right back last season......5 leagues below !

Needs loaning or easing in midfield in cameos but we are now either dealing with a new wave of idiocy at Ewood or pure financial desperation.

Probably a combination of both tbh.

[KentExile]

5 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said:

He was doing well at right back last season......5 leagues below !

Needs loaning or easing in midfield in cameos but we are now either dealing with a new wave of idiocy at Ewood or pure financial desperation.

Probably a combination of both tbh.

He was playing central midfield for both Marine & Chorley

Doesn't make the rest of your post wrong though

Edited 1 hour ago by KentExile

[BankEnd Rover]

27 minutes ago, Tugayisgod said:

Pululu not involved tonight in his sides Europa conference game v silkeborg ?

Apparently been left out due to either he or the club having too many yellow cards. 

[Neal]

I get everyone is pissed off, I've been pissed off for 15 years 😂... But the amount of comments writing off 17 & 18 year old kids is a bit rough lads. We shouldn't even be judging these lads in the first place, they're being chucked in before they're ready. I'm certainly not telling folk how to think or feel but I think our bitterness should be least directed at these kids. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Neal

[Tomphil2]

4 minutes ago, KentExile said:

He was playing central midfield for both Marine & Chorley

Doesn't make the rest of your post wrong though

I'd take Adam Hanley back at right back before i'd play Montgomery there at Championship level.

Not his fault he's trying his best but he'll get roasted most weeks in either position i suspect.

[islander200]

34 minutes ago, Mike E said:

He absolutely hasn’t been open and honest at all, he’s tried to throw our captain under the bus.

How exactly has he thrown Travis under the bus ?

He was asked a question and he answered it.

What should have been his answer to the question over Travis answer to the Derby bid?

Now if Travis didn't say he wanted to leave and Ismael was saying that to try push him out then that would be throwing him under the bus.

But Travis does want out.Would you have preferred Ismael to say Travis wanted to stay and then he leaves before deadline?

[RoversClitheroe]

5 minutes ago, islander200 said:

How exactly has he thrown Travis under the bus ?

He was asked a question and he answered it.

What should have been his answer to the question over Travis answer to the Derby bid?

Now if Travis didn't say he wanted to leave and Ismael was saying that to try push him out then that would be throwing him under the bus.

But Travis does want out.Would you have preferred Ismael to say Travis wanted to stay and then he leaves before deadline?

Think it's unprofessional personally.

I personally think if Valerian isn't fuming with this summer and doesn't come out like JDT and John Eustace. I'd be extremely nervous with his intentions.

[RevidgeBlue]

4 minutes ago, islander200 said:

How exactly has he thrown Travis under the bus ?

I haven't actually seen what Ismael said but I'm guessing he DIDN'T say "Trav wants to leave because we won't pay the going rate for Championship players any more".

[roversfan99]

1 minute ago, RoversClitheroe said:

Think it's unprofessional personally.

I personally think if Valerian isn't fuming with this summer and doesn't come out like JDT and John Eustace. I'd be extremely nervous with his intentions.

His intentions are most likely that he is sat on a 3 year deal so not to rock the boat. Nothing sinister beyond that.

He has shown signs of frustration already and he will be worn down at some point. They all have been.

[M_B]

1 hour ago, Tomphil2 said:

Absolutely totally and utterly to the contrary.

What we need to see is all those players being kept to get us through this season, allow the new ones to bed in and just try to stay out of the bottom spots.

No point whatsoever grabbing what will only be a few million quid to weaken the team even further and see next to nothing reinvested and a load more lightweight non Championship newbies come in.

Selling anyone else is a pointless exercise unless 3 to 5 mill per player is dropping into the bank, which there is no chance of.

Why are some so dead set on going with the Suhail agenda and clearing everyone out 'because they won't sign' ?

We are fecked either way so for now stick don't twist we've had enough pain this summer lets not rubber stamp relegation under some fantasy that better replacements are on their way and will gel in a few weeks.

Don't agree, but there we have it. 

[Hasta]

9 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

I haven't actually seen what Ismael said but I'm guessing he DIDN'T say "Trav wants to leave because we won't pay the going rate for Championship players any more".

“Trav wants to leave because we didn’t offer him a contract when he would have signed, and now myself, Rudy and Pasha are running the ship he doesn’t like our attitude or lack of ambition. Therefore he’s got a better offer we won’t match so he’s off”

Edited 1 hour ago by Hasta

[islander200]

1 minute ago, RevidgeBlue said:

I haven't actually seen what Ismael said but I'm guessing he DIDN'T say "Trav wants to leave because we won't pay the going rate for Championship players any more".

He was asked Travis response to the bid from Derby and he responded by saying that Travis has asked to leave. 

He has said numerous times the contract situation isn't good.And to be fair he doesn't dictate how much or little we offer our players. 

The anger and criticism should be aimed at those above and the owners the actual people who are coming to these decisions over when we start negotiations over new contracts and how much we are offering established players.

Ismael was asked a question and he answered it so for me the idea he has thrown Travis under the bus is just a bit silly 

[aletheia]

1 minute ago, Hasta said:

“Trav wants to leave because we didn’t offer him a contract when he would have signed, and now myself, Rudy and Pasha are running the hip he doesn’t like out attitude or lack of ambition. Therefore he’s got a better offer we won’t match so he’s off”

Jeeze, gobbledegook.