2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[roverandout]

4 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

there is clearly a problem renewing contracts of key players but we have a wage structure and budget, You can't break that for one player and if you do then you created problems with other players you want to offer. I would be making Tronstad and Hyam are higher earners and new contract but we should be making them improved offers. 

As Ismael says that Rovers have 

Thanks for sharing that. I wonder if he was going more around in the coming months

Go and listen to Elliott Jackson podcast today. 

Of Course Ismael will know exactly what we have offered to each player and how long the contract length

Toeing the company line again chaddy

[Tomphil2]

Just now, chaddyrovers said:

there is clearly a problem renewing contracts of key players but we have a wage structure and budget, You can't break that for one player and if you do then you created problems with other players you want to offer. I would be making Tronstad and Hyam are higher earners and new contract but we should be making them improved offers. 

 

Well you can break it for the odd player and they have done in the past and were allegedly considering doing it for Szmodics.

Despite cost cutting they also sanctioned a 20 grand a week contribution to Dennis loan wages, you just never know with this lot but cutting back wages so dramatically should allow for the odd quality player or two to be paid more, like Cantwell now for instance.

The biggest needless issue is the fact they cannot even get or are prepared to pay academy graduates on a couple of grand a week to commit again because they are obviously not even offering them ten grand plus.

That's just ridiculous.

[roversfan99]

2 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

there is clearly a problem renewing contracts of key players but we have a wage structure and budget, You can't break that for one player and if you do then you created problems with other players you want to offer. I would be making Tronstad and Hyam are higher earners and new contract but we should be making them improved offers. 

As Ismael says that Rovers have 

Thanks for sharing that. I wonder if he was going more around in the coming months

Go and listen to Elliott Jackson podcast today. 

Of Course Ismael will know exactly what we have offered to each player and how long the contract length

No one said to break it for one player.

The issue is clearly how low that ceiling is in the first place.

At least you are acknowledging the pattern. 

Couple of questions:

- Do events of recent days and the potential to lose more key players in any way change your prediction of 6th?

- you have been strong on certain opinions, justifying the clubs unwillingness to sign more than 1 more player, net of sales. You said I was wrong in suggesting that we cant just assume that say Montgomery/Michalski/Tyjon are all ready. And you previously have highlighted Kargbo as evidence of good recruitment. Have any of those opinions waivered?

[BankEnd Rover]

11 minutes ago, islander200 said:

He was in a no win situation with the question 

He bats the question away and then Travis ends up at Derby a few days later them some would be saying "Ismael was covering up for regime above, he knew Travis was going "

He is 100% going to go 

Disagree, he could easily say things along the lines of not wanting to talk about the situation...He did not have to say what he said.

[M_B]

30 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

No- one has less time for Waggott than me but do you not think this latest ripping up of everything and starting again from scratch by scouring obscure European Leagues is  solely RG's "bright" idea?

It looks to me as if gestede is a new broom and Ismael was his appointment . I said weeks ago that this feels different rather than a continuation .

Now, I'm not saying they know what they're doing , but I do think they're on the same page, there's no chance of success if they aren't.

It seems to have been forgotten that we've signed the Hull defender, so maybe they're looking for a mix.

Whatever happens, the recruitment department have it all to do.

 

[JHRover]

9 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

Go and listen to Elliott Jackson podcast today. 

Of Course Ismael will know exactly what we have offered to each player and how long the contract length

You haven't answered my question. No surprises because you can't.

The question was how do you know that Ismael has been open and honest about the situation? 

You don't. Nobody does other than him and the people he works for. Even he might not know whether the version of events he has been given by the Regime is accurate or not. It certainly wouldn't be the first time they have misled or lied to one of their employees to shore up their Regime.

Its funny. You are a big fan of the 'Head Coach' model yet for some reason think that Ismael will have intricate knowledge of all contract negotiations, which isn't really what happens under a head coach model, where the board and D of F deal with that side of things. I bet he has no idea other than being told player x isn't signing or getting a new deal. 

I know what Jackson has reported. He's another lavishing praise on Ismael for 'honesty' - I'll ask again - how does he know he's being honest or more importantly even if he is that he's not been fed a load of tripe by his employers?

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

13 minutes ago, London blue said:

The party line for any manager in that situation is "things happen quickly in football, he's out player right now" or something to that effect.

There was no need to state Trav wants to leave or Derby are offering to double his money... unless you've been asked to.

It all depends on what sort of person you are. If it was me I’d be thinking - “ I’m not covering up for these bastards any longer  “ . Maybe Ismael thought the same.

[chaddyrovers]

2 hours ago, Mike E said:

He absolutely hasn’t been open and honest at all, he’s tried to throw our captain under the bus.

Yes he has Mike, He was asked a question and he answered it. Should he lie to the Supporters who paid their hard earned money supporting their team

2 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

His intentions are most likely that he is sat on a 3 year deal so not to rock the boat. Nothing sinister beyond that.

He has shown signs of frustration already and he will be worn down at some point. They all have been.

Ismael wants to be build a team and get promote. He is frustrated over their contracts problems that happened before he joined the Club. After the Spanish training camp things were looking good but losing Brittain and Travis(by the looks of things) has played a big part in the last 10 days.  

1 hour ago, JHRover said:

Ismael didn't need to say that Travis has asked to leave. He could simply have batted off questions and limited his talk to the dismal defeat to Bradford.

As I said earlier, he's either an idiot and said it without thinking of the impact it could have on the player and fanbase, or he's complicit in the Regime's cover-up operation which has been gaining a lot of momentum the last few days.

The Regime knows that eyes are on them and pressure is building. Turning the focus on 'wantaway' players and feeding Jackson sob stories about 'lifechanging' offers from Derby all part of that

 

You mean like Eustace who told Rovers Supporters Szmodics was injured until Szmodics a few months told fans the truth. 

What is wrong Ismael being open and honest with the supporters over the Travis situation? He was asked the question and he told the truth, is there something wrong with that? 

[Andy]

15 minutes ago, London blue said:

The party line for any manager in that situation is "things happen quickly in football, he's out player right now" or something to that effect.

There was no need to state Trav wants to leave or Derby are offering to double his money... unless you've been asked to.

I agree it's standard manager speak - JE was a master of this.
Say a lot without saying anything.

I genuinely prefer honesty, or at least more than just waffle.
Why I liked JDT's interviews also.

[JHRover]

Just now, chaddyrovers said:

He was asked the question and he told the truth, is there something wrong with that? 

Still not answering the question. Third or fourth time you're insisting that a true version of events has been given. 

How do you know that? If you can't answer that then stop insisting it is definitely the truth. It might not be.

[glen9mullan]

As ive posted previously and from multiple sources (at least 11) all either employees or players.

All points to one man , the one man who arrived last summer and is universally hated across the club more than suhail.

This aint about money, this is about the whole environment. One outgoing employee of many years who I had an hour chat with Saturday, puts the blame firmly at Gestedes door.

Id not post this if I couldn't support it either , hence Suhail was so desperate to have Gestedes name removed from the minutes 

[roversfan99]

1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said:

Yes he has Mike, He was asked a question and he answered it. Should he lie to the Supporters who paid their hard earned money supporting their team

Ismael wants to be build a team and get promote. He is frustrated over their contracts problems that happened before he joined the Club. After the Spanish training camp things were looking good but losing Brittain and Travis(by the looks of things) has played a big part in the last 10 days.  

You mean like Eustace who told Rovers Supporters Szmodics was injured until Szmodics a few months told fans the truth. 

What is wrong Ismael being open and honest with the supporters over the Travis situation? He was asked the question and he told the truth, is there something wrong with that? 

Why are you swallowing this "before he joined the club" shite? The problems are just as bad as ever. See Dom Hyam. He seemingly would sign now but we wont offer a reasonable wage. So what has changed?

If he had come out post match on Tuesday and said, Montgomery was shit and Michalski was shit and they both really cost us. Would you have been happy with that? He would have been being honest. Its not just as simple as truth and lieing.

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, Ghost7 said:

Is our local journalist going to ask the club if they plan on spending a few million each on some good individual players like other clubs do ?

Why don't you message Elliott Jackson and Andy Bayes to asked Ismael your question. 

1 hour ago, JHRover said:

Perhaps JDT, via Broughton, was instructed that Travis was a 'problem' due to his 'high earner' status and that he would need removing from the team/squad to free up cash. The Ipswich scheme failed because they had little use for him when getting automatic promotion and then he came back just as someone else (Waggott apparently) had appointed Eustace who immediately recognised the value of him and made him central to his plans, together with bringing in other established Championship players.

None of those things fit the 'model' the Regime have had in mind for the last 3-4 years so they were more than happy to get Eustace out, grab the compo and find a coach willing to oversee their plans. 

Travis left Rovers in January 2024 cos JDT and him had a falling out and JDT didn't think he fitted how he wanted to play. 

Of Eustace made a big play for him, ideal player for him and how's he wants to play. Very logical there

[BRFC.]

1 hour ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Happened to JDT happened to Eustace - how he or his agents/reps thought this would be different is beyond me 

He’s only here because it’s 3 and a half years of free pay essentially.. in my opinion 

[glen9mullan]

On JE his card was marked when he brought weimann in to train against Gestedes wishes, he was told he couldn't have him and he went Waggott to get it done.

Weimann op was because he was told when JE went his days were numbered and he would not be staying.

How people keep plugging the VL dont want or its the players fault.

The list of those who have spoken out about to the toxicity are the ones exiting.

Contracts/money is pure propaganda 

[sammie]

don’t worry guys everythings A OK, Ahmed  has reassured to us that there’s plenty of things to be positive about. The recruitment, the owners, the results, the performances might be terrible, but at least the social media is ‘shit hot.’ We are doomed. 

Edited 2 hours ago by sammie

[ROVER_N_OUT1978]

5 minutes ago, glen9mullan said:

On JE his card was marked when he brought weimann in to train against Gestedes wishes, he was told he couldn't have him and he went Waggott to get it done.

Weimann op was because he was told when JE went his days were numbered and he would not be staying.

How people keep plugging the VL dont want or its the players fault.

The list of those who have spoken out about to the toxicity are the ones exiting.

Contracts/money is pure propaganda 

This is just a shocking way to run a club. Are the owners aware?

Surely they can't allow this to go on

[Torgeir]

8 minutes ago, glen9mullan said:

On JE his card was marked when he brought weimann in to train against Gestedes wishes, he was told he couldn't have him and he went Waggott to get it done.

Weimann op was because he was told when JE went his days were numbered and he would not be staying.

How people keep plugging the VL dont want or its the players fault.

The list of those who have spoken out about to the toxicity are the ones exiting.

Contracts/money is pure propaganda 

How long to you think Gestede will last?

[glen9mullan]

Just now, ROVER_N_OUT1978 said:

This is just a shocking way to run a club. Are the owners aware?

Surely they can't allow this to go on

Like taking to a brick wall,

The only conclusion I can come to is they cant possibly be in this ownership alone, nothing makes sense.

I think Suhail will exit , and the pressure needs to remain to ensure that occurs.

However there is no road back for Venkys, we must find new owners before the damage becomes iretreviable .

I think we are at the worse point in 15 years 

We have no credible board, no credible dof, and a squad being slaughtered for none footballing reasons.

How any body can make excuses is beyond me

[booth]

10 minutes ago, sammie said:

don’t worry guys everythings A OK, Ahmed  has reassured to us that there’s plenty of things to be positive about. The recruitment, the owners, the results, the performances might be terrible, but at least the social media is ‘shit hot.’ We are doomed. 

We'll need that shit hot social media team on the pitch soonish.

[glen9mullan]

Just now, Torgeir said:

How long to you think Gestede will last?

Until suhail exits , and with the club now facing a nice lawsuit (suhails doing) , its becoming the biggest circus in town

[chaddyrovers]

22 minutes ago, JHRover said:

You haven't answered my question. No surprises because you can't.

The question was how do you know that Ismael has been open and honest about the situation? 

You don't. Nobody does other than him and the people he works for. Even he might not know whether the version of events he has been given by the Regime is accurate or not. It certainly wouldn't be the first time they have misled or lied to one of their employees to shore up their Regime.

Its funny. You are a big fan of the 'Head Coach' model yet for some reason think that Ismael will have intricate knowledge of all contract negotiations, which isn't really what happens under a head coach model, where the board and D of F deal with that side of things. I bet he has no idea other than being told player x isn't signing or getting a new deal. 

I know what Jackson has reported. He's another lavishing praise on Ismael for 'honesty' - I'll ask again - how does he know he's being honest or more importantly even if he is that he's not been fed a load of tripe by his employers?

its yourself who don't believe what Ismael has said. Elliott Jackson has been his assessment from meeting him and interviewing him. 

so its your problem and down to yourself. 

Of course a Head coach knows, the same way Eustace will have know what each player was on here. 

[Polky]

16 minutes ago, glen9mullan said:

On JE his card was marked when he brought weimann in to train against Gestedes wishes, he was told he couldn't have him and he went Waggott to get it done.

Weimann op was because he was told when JE went his days were numbered and he would not be staying.

How people keep plugging the VL dont want or its the players fault.

The list of those who have spoken out about to the toxicity are the ones exiting.

Contracts/money is pure propaganda 

No wonder JE was flirting with every championship club when a job became available.

People call him a snake, but why wouldn’t you join a club that’s moving in the right direction as a collective, full stadium, money to spend on players, better wage and closer to home!?

[ROVER_N_OUT1978]

5 minutes ago, glen9mullan said:

Like taking to a brick wall,

The only conclusion I can come to is they cant possibly be in this ownership alone, nothing makes sense.

I think Suhail will exit , and the pressure needs to remain to ensure that occurs.

However there is no road back for Venkys, we must find new owners before the damage becomes iretreviable .

I think we are at the worse point in 15 years 

We have no credible board, no credible dof, and a squad being slaughtered for none footballing reasons.

How any body can make excuses is beyond me

Absolutely Glen. They have passed the point of no return .

The club is at a very low point 

[chaddyrovers]

37 minutes ago, islander200 said:

He was in a no win situation with the question 

He bats the question away and then Travis ends up at Derby a few days later them some would be saying "Ismael was covering up for regime above, he knew Travis was going "

He is 100% going to go 

Exactly why Ismael has been open and honest with his answer just like he wants was the Callum Brittain's situation.