RevidgeBlue Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 5 minutes ago, TommyRovers said: Didn’t have a go at you for that. I joked that it was a silly comment about our squad being incomplete just a week or two into the window. All club squads are. No point us going back and forwards going "Yes it was, no it wasn't" all afternoon. Maybe not at a normal Club but we have previous form for rarely if ever strengthening in the forward positions because those are the ones which cost the most money. With c 2 weeks to go until the end of the window do you now finally acknowledge the state of the squad is a matter for serious concern, or do you still think it's no reason to worry because there are another 2 weeks left and the Club will sort something. Quote
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Tyrone Shoelaces Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago I’m not sure the chicken chokers are overly concerned about us being relegated again. They’re probably thinking - “ Last time it was no big deal, they got back again “. 1 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: I’m not sure the chicken chokers are overly concerned about us being relegated again. They’re probably thinking - “ Last time it was no big deal, they got back again “. Even they will know though that that was primarily because they retained all the big wage earners, and invested further in the squad, Dack/Armstrong etc. The exact opposite of what's happening now. 2 Quote
... Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 2 hours ago, Devon Rover said: I've never known an organisation to be so keen to convince everyone of how hard they are "pushing" for things (acquisitions, contracts, etc, etc) to happen, whilst not actually delivering any of those things, then repeating the same thing, over and over. All whilst senior members of the organisation speak to the press about being "confused", or their standard working environment being "difficult" or "strange". Meanwhile their competitors just get on with actually making things happen. Bloody amateurs, the lot of them. It's like walking onto a Car sales forecourt expressing high interest in a vehicle, discussing with your mrs that you both like it, agree its perfect for you, expressing to the salesman it's perfect everything you need... "Okay Mr and Mrs Rao, should we move into the office and run up some paperwork for you?" "Yes we're happy let's go" * paperwork on the desk and handed a pen. *stare blankly at the salesman, walks out without uttering a word. The next day... whilst leaning over the fence the neighbour chirps up... "Did you get that car you were set on?" "No but we really tried to get it".... 2 Quote
TommyRovers Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 11 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: No point us going back and forwards going "Yes it was, no it wasn't" all afternoon. Maybe not at a normal Club but we have previous form for rarely if ever strengthening in the forward positions because those are the ones which cost the most money. With c 2 weeks to go until the end of the window do you now finally acknowledge the state of the squad is a matter for serious concern, or do you still think it's no reason to worry because there are another 2 weeks left and the Club will sort something. I’ve always thought the squad was a concern. You have become hung up on what was a tongue in cheek comment and are reading far far too much into it. Which you have a history of, considering the tin foil hat stuff you come out with. We were discussing Elliott Jackson who you are harshly attacking. 1 Quote
joey_big_nose Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago TBH I don't think there is much intelligence from the Pasha/Venkys side beyond trying to answer the simple question "how can the club cover its own costs". The only viable answer to that is : Pay wages way below the average in the Championship Minimise transfer fees paid Maximise transfer fees recouped That explains the whole way we are operating at the moment. What is missing is within those constraints a committed and engaged owner would make much better strategic and tactical choices, whereas Venkys are so disconnected we make bad decisions again and again that lose the club more money and goodwill. Â 2 Quote
SuperBrfc Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 2 hours ago, jim mk2 said: "Rovers are pushing to make a breakthrough in their search for attacking reinforcements" Translation: We've made inquiries but aren't getting anywhere because we won't pay the money It isn't the market that is very strange or difficult, Val. I'd argue it is the ownership that makes it appear strange and difficult. I'd argue it is the man overseeing recruitment (who knows nothing about football) that is making it look strange and difficult. Other clubs appear to be doing just fine. 3 Quote
Mattyblue Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago He knows it isn’t, he’s operated at this level long enough. Certainly don’t expect any ‘ask Steve Suhail’ from this mon, he knows exactly what he’s signed up to. 2 Quote
Tomphil2 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 2 hours ago, Christopher said: Does this mean we should accept the DCFC bid for Travis or risk having an unhappy player for 12 months? It means he should have been given a decent contract offer when Eustace was here then John would've had to pay a good fee for him or leave him alone. 2 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 2 hours ago, JHRover said: They must think the fanbase is totally stupid. But then again with the views of some supporters and an ever compliant local media lining up to swallow and regurgitate whatever rubbish they serve up I can hardly blame them for trying. On a similar note I was struck by the comments underneath Jackson's latest match report in the LT. I'd say the Club plants who post non stop on there all day out themselves in fairly obvious fashion as the ones arguing vehemently that no-one could possibly ever be interested in buying us. At worst - you dont know until you try. https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/25395788.blackburn-rovers-self-sabotage-typical-difficult-week/ Edited 2 hours ago by RevidgeBlue 1 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 10 minutes ago, Mattyblue said: He knows it isn’t, he’s operated at this level long enough. Certainly don’t expect any ‘ask Steve Suhail’ from this mon, he knows exactly what he’s signed up to. Id say so. No-one who wasn't "in on it" could surely be remotely happy with only adding a RW and (if he leaves) a Travis replacement to this squad. Edited 2 hours ago by RevidgeBlue Quote
yankfan Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 6 minutes ago, SuperBrfc said: It isn't the market that is very strange or difficult, Val. I'd argue it is the ownership that makes it appear strange and difficult. I'd argue it is the man overseeing recruitment (who knows nothing about football) that is making it look strange and difficult. Other clubs appear to be doing just fine. It is a difficult market when 1) you’re offering sub par wages, 2) you won’t pay fair value for transfer fees, 3) you run out of cheap spots to pay low wages and fees using foreign exemptions.  couple that with key player in the final year of their contract who know they’ll earn more elsewhere, and other clubs keenly aware that Rovers will be forced to sell at cut rate prices.  I’d say under those circumstances it’s a nearly impossible market to do business in.  I still can’t believe Wharton was sold for £21 million. Hutchinson going for £37 million highlights just how bad of a transfer that was for us…but desperate times cause desperate measures, and we’ve been forced into selling assets for nothing for years now. 2 Quote
Popular Post Angry_Pirate Posted 2 hours ago Popular Post Posted 2 hours ago Rovers offer less than 50% of a players asking price = business as usual. Club offers less than 50% of a Rovers players asking price = player hung out to dry in the (club) media, dropped from the squad and called a snake. Hull should offer £200k for Cantwell, Hyam, Tronstad and Toth... make us play the reserves, because that's apparently how it works at Ewood. Club is a shambles. 10 Quote
BRFC. Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: I’m not sure the chicken chokers are overly concerned about us being relegated again. They’re probably thinking - “ Last time it was no big deal, they got back again “. If we go down we ain’t coming back. 1 Quote
JHRover Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 7 minutes ago, BRFC. said: If we go down we ain’t coming back. Just think, we can be told about how 'we can't compete' with clubs like Bolton, Wigan, Huddersfield, Luton and Cardiff. Have any of you seen how many people live in those places compared to Blackburn with Darwen? 3 Quote
SuperBrfc Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 1 hour ago, RevidgeBlue said: Id say so. No-one who wasn't "in on it" could surely be remotely happy with only adding a RW and (if he leaves) a Travis replacement to this squad. Obviously, we're speculating so can't say definitively either way, but I'm seeing it differently. I don't think he is in on anything. I could be wrong, but I think the carrot of Premier League football in the near future is dangled before players and managers to get them in the building. I think this might have happened with Ismael too. He is here expecting us to make a push for Premier League football at some point. I don't believe he has come here just to develop players and stay in the League. He'll have known we don't have the budget of others, but I think the sell was: our aim is to become a trading club, sell players on and reinvest to become a Premier League club. This is what Gestede has been spouting in numerous interviews as being "the plan". Somebody has likely told Gestede this is the plan, in my view. Gestede might genuinely believe the aim is to become a Premier League club again, if indeed that is what he has been told. However, Broughton also believed this to be the case. JDT also believed this. Both were repeatedly saying "sustainable Premier League club", for a reason. Look at the recent minutes though. Pasha initially stated face to face to the fans that the owners' aim was to have a "sustainable club". He did not mention "Premier League". However, in the edited version that was amended, somebody added on "with the aspiration to become a Premier League club" to that comment. Are these token words? If you truly believe in something and have it as a genuine aim, it rolls off the tongue when somebody asks you. Right? So why did "Premier League club" not roll off Pasha's tongue before the fans forum? Is Pasha really interested in reaching the Premier League? I think the last few years give us some indication on that. The new players who have come in are all talking about the Premier League and how they want to play in it, in their interviews with Rovers TV. It's likely they are of the belief, just like Gestede and Ismael, that the aim is to become a Premier League club again soon Not a big budget, but clever recruitment and management on the pitch can take us up. I think this has appealed to Ismael. He is probably frustrated with how things are going transfer wise, but it looks like he believes this is a transition period and that things will ease up. He said shortly after a few of the experienced players left something along the lines of "we've moved into the transition stage quicker than expected, but we'll get on with it...". I hate to break it to you, Val... I don't think he is happy with the lack of activity. IMO, 'transition' might be what is standing in the way of him doing a JDT/Eustace for the time being. Edited 1 hour ago by SuperBrfc Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 50 minutes ago Posted 50 minutes ago 12 minutes ago, SuperBrfc said: He'll have known we don't have the budget of others, but I think the sell was: our aim is to become a trading club, sell players on and reinvest to become a Premier League club. This is what Gestede has been spouting in numerous interviews as being "the plan". Somebody has likely told Gestede this is the plan, in my view. We'll have to agree to disagree on whether VI is fully "in on it" or happy or unhappy. Just as a point of order though that bit is definitely incorrect if RG is to be believed, he's clearly said any sales do not affect the transfer budget. At the time I think he was put on the spot by Eddie asking a very tricky and pertinent question about why we didn't capitalise on a temporary improvement in our FFP position due to all the sales. So with English not being his first language and being under pressure to produce an answer he might have blurted out something that wasn't 100% accurate. In the absence of any clarification to the contrary though that would seem to be the position. Quote
... Posted 33 minutes ago Posted 33 minutes ago 59 minutes ago, BRFC. said: If we go down we ain’t coming back. This is the scary bit. Quote
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