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1 minute ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Well we can only judge what we have seen to date and what we have seen is regression from last years squad to now.

Travis is streets clear of Tavares at present 

Brittain is a top 5 champ right back

hyam is better than what we currently have

so we’re pinning our hopes on Morishita and gudjohnsen to be good but they will take time and that’s the issue certainly the one that I have is we shouldn’t be in this position what ideally should have happened is we sign Morishita/gudjohnsen/miller on top of last seasons squad probably minus Dolan weimann and batth as all were likely to go

add Baradji to the mix -   Vals words in the interview about transfers saying miller was due in 3 weeks before he signed but got injured so they didn’t want to chance it. Why sign a player in Baradji who failed a medical and is currently injured? Doesn’t make sense 

Yeah I will give you that one the Baradji deal is very odd and no one seems to know when he can play again but it could work out good (if we ever see him) as he was wanted by clubs higher up than us so he might have something about him but its just something else we all play guessing games on right now. 

Alebiosu has not been dreadful since he came in, more athletic that Brittain, he has work to do but the signs are good at least

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Posted
7 minutes ago, Eternal Optimist said:

Yeah I will give you that one the Baradji deal is very odd and no one seems to know when he can play again but it could work out good (if we ever see him) as he was wanted by clubs higher up than us so he might have something about him but its just something else we all play guessing games on right now. 

Alebiosu has not been dreadful since he came in, more athletic that Brittain, he has work to do but the signs are good at least

He has been one of the better players on show but he’s not on Britain’s level 

so this is where the concern is 

lost 4/5 games tough few fixtures coming up a fully new squad but we’re being asked to be patient 

Posted
13 hours ago, Exiled in Toronto Mk2 said:

C’mon, no-one should answer that, it’s like saying which of your kids you prefer!

Like it or not, the views prevalent on here are not held by the majority of Rovers fans: the Facebook crowd are at the other end of the spectrum and the majority are neither, but they are all Rovers fans. Following live commentary on an Indian court case can hardly be described as mainstream. The questions were always going to be middle of the road.

Oi 😁

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Posted
1 hour ago, Tricky said:

You’re right, results do matter and patience will wear thin quickly if points arent picked up, that’s the reality. But I don’t think this rebuild is about preparing for relegation, it’s about trying something different after years of falling just short.

Something different…or something cheaper? 🤔

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Posted
58 minutes ago, Eternal Optimist said:

Yeah I will give you that one the Baradji deal is very odd and no one seems to know when he can play again but it could work out good (if we ever see him) as he was wanted by clubs higher up than us so he might have something about him but its just something else we all play guessing games on right now. 

Alebiosu has not been dreadful since he came in, more athletic that Brittain, he has work to do but the signs are good at least

Do they not give you and Tricky any actual work to do at the Club?

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Posted
3 hours ago, Tricky said:

 

I thought it was alright, but get the frustration, stagnation year by year, poor comms, and watching committed players walk away hasn’t been great but it’s a new chapter now.

Yes, the wage cap is crap, but it’s forcing the club to be smarter and not just splash cash on aging players who wanted new challenges. Honestly, some of them weren’t giving 100% either and it showed clearing them out isn’t just about saving money, it’s about building a squad that wants to be here.

VI's support shows, and while it’s easy to be skeptical, he sees them every day. Gudjohnsen looks a proper talent, and there’s a foundation in this squad and they’re building something. 

It might take a season to click, but I’d rather back a project with potential than cling to the past and repeated failures of achieving the play offs. The club’s far from perfect, but there’s a shift happening. 

If its too much to bear, you could always support the bastards and get your England flags out...
 

 

Theres a lot here but you say that some of the players that have left werent giving 100%. What makes you say that?

Posted
15 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

They also said that they think that the squad is stronger. So why wouldnt they commit to saying that the aim is the play offs seeing as we finished 7th with a weaker squad, in their eyes?

They caveated that by saying it will take time basically saying season 1 transition and next season to push on. That’s how I took it 

silly though 

Posted
30 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Do they not give you and Tricky any actual work to do at the Club?

Username is eternal optimist. Cut him some slack. God we could use a bit of optimism around here.

Just because someone tries to be positive about our players doesn't mean he's shagging Pasha... 

Posted
7 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

They caveated that by saying it will take time basically saying season 1 transition and next season to push on. That’s how I took it 

silly though 

The plan will be different next season.

Unless something dramatically changes, Tronstad, Cantwell, Carter, Wharton etc will have to leave.

Posted
Just now, RoyWegerlesLeftToe said:

Username is eternal optimist. Cut him some slack. God we could use a bit of optimism around here.

Just because someone tries to be positive about our players doesn't mean he's shagging Pasha... 

Surely suggesting to go and support Burnley is equally as unnecessary.

Posted
7 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

They caveated that by saying it will take time basically saying season 1 transition and next season to push on. That’s how I took it 

silly though 

Yep.

Push on to "mid table" next season.

One after that should be looking at "top half"

One after that should be looking at being "in play off contention"

At best nothing whatsoever will happen, and the protagonists sail off into the sunset with their pockets stuffed full of cash.

Rip it up, start again on another "project" or "process" - rinse and repeat.

Posted
7 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

The plan will be different next season.

Unless something dramatically changes, Tronstad, Cantwell, Carter, Wharton etc will have to leave.

Time will tell….i think that will be the case at least for 2 of those players 

Posted (edited)
10 minutes ago, RoyWegerlesLeftToe said:

Username is eternal optimist. Cut him some slack. God we could use a bit of optimism around here.

Just because someone tries to be positive about our players doesn't mean he's shagging Pasha... 

I thought my comment was fairly obviously slightly tongue in cheek.

As for your second paragraph - agree that's fairly unlikely, the atmosphere around the Club isn't convivial enough for a civil conversation let alone that according to most accounts.

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Posted (edited)

No, we're a one contract club now.

Sign a 3/4 year deal when joining and then sell 2/3 years into that deal.

Rinse and repeat until the end of time.

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Posted
3 hours ago, Tricky said:

 

and which of the ones that left would have stayed if they were given the contract/wages they demanded?

IMO, probably only Dolan tried his best hard enough consistently, the others i dont think we'll miss and look where he's managed to get himself, a decent side in La Liga.

I mean its football and also a business that's how it works, but the difference now is there’s at least a plan to build value and identity and better than recycling the same group and expecting promotion to magically happen.

You don't gain promotion magically you gain it by building strategically year on year and improving your weakest areas. Yes you'll lose the odd player but if the club is funded properly a lump goes straight back into some quality potential.

Have a root and branch clear out at a club that has finished just outside the top 6 and WOULD have been in it with the right backing at the right time is beyond odd.

It is only being done for financial and control purposes and anyone thinking any different and expecting some kind of revolution is not only kidding themselves but also swallowing the latest propaganda from people who are only here to line their pockets.

History under Venkys shows exactly what will happen.

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Posted
38 minutes ago, RoyWegerlesLeftToe said:

Username is eternal optimist. Cut him some slack. God we could use a bit of optimism around here.

Just because someone tries to be positive about our players doesn't mean he's shagging Pasha... 

There’s enough (unfounded) optimism in that interview to last a lifetime.

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