CaptainBeanfart Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, roversfan99 said: They also said that they think that the squad is stronger. So why wouldnt they commit to saying that the aim is the play offs seeing as we finished 7th with a weaker squad, in their eyes? Because other teams get stronger, too. We probably overacheived last season as well. Quote
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den Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago The wage budget has been cut. This isn’t any kind of alternative master plan. It’s simply the only thing that’s left open to Gestede and company. They have to let the higher earners go and just hope that somehow they can get around it. In other words they’re all lieing to us all. Time for a few truths from the owners. If they were to say that they couldn’t continue funding the club at the previous levels then we would all have to accept it. We might not be happy with it but we would accept it. but then rightly, they would be urged to put the club up for sale. With a wage budget seemingly at the bottom end of this league the chances of success are virtually nil. It happens sometimes but it hasn’t happened here for 15 years. The teams with the highest wage bill tend to be the teams at the top of the league. We’re on a downward trajectory with no signs of it changing. 7 Quote
lraC Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 10 minutes ago, CaptainBeanfart said: Because other teams get stronger, too. We probably overacheived last season as well. It is one hell of a good argument, if the worst happens and we get relegated. All the other teams got stronger, as well as us but they got even stronger than us. It was a much stronger league overall and as we over achieved last season, it wasn't our fault that we under achieved this season and went down. Next. Quote
Popular Post Wendal Posted 6 hours ago Popular Post Posted 6 hours ago 1 minute ago, BRFC. said: Laughable Further confirms that Pasha is the only decision maker here, he makes all the decisions and sends out his puppets to take the heat (until they get fed up and leave or are removed from role for refusing) 10 Quote
BRFC. Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Wendal said: Further confirms that Pasha is the only decision maker here, he makes all the decisions and sends out his puppets to take the heat (until they get fed up and leave or are removed from role for refusing) Nasty nasty man, quicker him and the owners and others leave the better. 6 Quote
lraC Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 10 minutes ago, BRFC. said: Laughable We are very transparent and honest. 6 Quote
GHD Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 3 hours ago, Tricky said: they learn the hard way, or just stop looking backwards. They’ve had 15 years and haven’t learnt anything any way 1 Quote
den Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago Why would Pasha stop Gestede speaking to the local paper? Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago Gestede comes across as a highly unlikeable person indeed but make no mistake about it suhail pasha is the main problem always has been and will always continue to be so long as venkys continue to employ him 7 Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 10 minutes ago, den said: Why would Pasha stop Gestede speaking to the local paper? Because he comes across as reactionary so of challenged on certain topics maybe he will say something he shouldn’t either way it’s another gagging order from him on staff below him it’s farcical really or they have fell out with LT over 2/3 articles about how poor the window has been Andy bayes wil be posting an interview at 8pm on bbc lancs Quote
RoversClitheroe Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago Is it possible to report the YouTube video for being spam / misleading? 1 Quote
miqaayil Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 12 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: Gestede comes across as a highly unlikeable person indeed but make no mistake about it suhail pasha is the main problem always has been and will always continue to be so long as venkys continue to employ him Venky's don't employ him.... its his project with Vs on name Quote
BRFC. Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, den said: The wage budget has been cut. This isn’t any kind of alternative master plan. It’s simply the only thing that’s left open to Gestede and company. They have to let the higher earners go and just hope that somehow they can get around it. In other words they’re all lieing to us all. Time for a few truths from the owners. If they were to say that they couldn’t continue funding the club at the previous levels then we would all have to accept it. We might not be happy with it but we would accept it. but then rightly, they would be urged to put the club up for sale. With a wage budget seemingly at the bottom end of this league the chances of success are virtually nil. It happens sometimes but it hasn’t happened here for 15 years. The teams with the highest wage bill tend to be the teams at the top of the league. We’re on a downward trajectory with no signs of it changing. I want them to sell the club, no point in them owning it Quote
Blueandwhitemike Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 4 hours ago, Tricky said: You’re right, results do matter and patience will wear thin quickly if points arent picked up, that’s the reality. But I don’t think this rebuild is about preparing for relegation, it’s about trying something different after years of falling just short. The old squad had grown together but also hit a ceiling. The Jan window and Eustace exit were setbacks, but they'll have exposed deeper issues the club have since addressed. The new approach is risky, no doubt but risk doesn’t always mean decline. If even a few of these signings settle quickly and the team gels, we will be competitive. It’s not about accepting worse results it’s accepting change takes time. Let’s see where we are after 10–15 games before writing the season off. I think you are deluding yourself here, did you actually watch the video properly and listen to what was said? The plan wasn't the get rid of the core of a team that had just finished 7th. They claim they offered all those players contracts so if we believe that to be true they couldn't have decided that squad had hit a ceiling and they wanted to try something different. The players left because they didn't offer them good enough contracts, including some that were offered exactly the same terms they were on, as I think Rudy said. There were no deeper issues exposed. What you wrote is sadly nonsense. I do hope the likes of Mori and Gudjohnsen and even perhaps Baradji come good but what has happened has happened primarily because it saves money, there is no doubt about that. 1 Quote
aletheia Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 19 hours ago, DanielMB said: Whatever you think of Rudy and his comrades they are not the problem. Venkys are the problem. They have been the problem for 15 years. They have overseen the decline and they are the masterminds behind our wagecap and they are the reason why Rudy can’t offer our players decent wages and forces him to sign the likes of Dion. Lots of people have come and gone. All under Venkys watch. Disagree. That is true in terms of the Vs and nobody here (apart from some) but gives RG and hence Pasha far to easy a ride. Just carrying out orders. They cause far more damage than that. They are also a big part of the problem for all the reasons many have outlined on here before. Quote
danger19_80 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, lraC said: We are very transparent and honest. Bayes has an interview with Gestede and Ismail. Same thing happened with that three stooges interview from earlier this year where they all wore the same trousers. They obviously don't like the LT - tbf probably correctly, they are terrible Edited 4 hours ago by danger19_80 Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 2 hours ago, Eternal Optimist said: Hey I suggested Liverpool not Burnley 🤣 Worse. Quote
aletheia Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 6 hours ago, Tricky said: Honestly, some of them weren’t giving 100% Really? They did pretty well then (7th lest you forget in your bland assertions) don't you think given that JE and the squad weren't supported in January. Quote
rovers11 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 3 hours ago, roversfan99 said: They also said that they think that the squad is stronger. So why wouldnt they commit to saying that the aim is the play offs seeing as we finished 7th with a weaker squad, in their eyes? I think the squad is potentially stronger - but it will take many of them months to adjust to championship football and that's the real problem. We've sold solid championship players for, in the main, foreign imports who have more footballing ability and athleticism but are completely untested in this country. It's a gamble for sure. You need to build gradually and allow those imports to learn the ways of the championship before throwing them in. Instead, we have no choice but to throw them in at the deep end. Many other teams have bought proven talent who will be far more ready to hit the ground running. 2 Quote
BRFC. Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 10 minutes ago, rovers11 said: I think the squad is potentially stronger - but it will take many of them months to adjust to championship football and that's the real problem. We've sold solid championship players for, in the main, foreign imports who have more footballing ability and athleticism but are completely untested in this country. It's a gamble for sure. You need to build gradually and allow those imports to learn the ways of the championship before throwing them in. Instead, we have no choice but to throw them in at the deep end. Many other teams have bought proven talent who will be far more ready to hit the ground running. It’s much worse, you don’t have time to “gel” in the championship, it’s relentless Quote
RoverDom Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 9 minutes ago, Frederick said: 😂 Some people have the club they deserve 6 Quote
BRFC. Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 9 minutes ago, Frederick said: 😂 This is why we are stuck with these lot. Keep seeing “we could be worse look at Wednesday” how do you know we don’t end up like them? 6 Quote
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