Backroom Tom Posted August 5 Backroom Posted August 5 Has Axel Witsel still not signed then? How about Riquelme? 6 Quote
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bluebruce Posted August 5 Posted August 5 4 minutes ago, Tom said: Has Axel Witsel still not signed then? How about Riquelme? We are waiting for Ronaldinho to sign on a pay as you play first, but Beckham has signed. Possibly, anyway, he has been photographed in a Rovers shirt but nobody is sure if we pressed send. Don't worry though, we have a 1 billion quid warchest waiting for us if we can just get approval from the court toda- ah they've adjourned. Something fucking like that anyway. 3 Quote
Ossydave Posted August 5 Posted August 5 44 minutes ago, ageoftherover said: Australian fan here. Very happy we've signed Miller. He's been one of our better players internationally recently. Australia play 5 at the back and he's regularly played as the right wide/wing back, so he's no stranger to getting up the pitch. It looks like he was used differently at Hibs, but he's probably a bit more versatile than he's been given credit for. You're wrong, he's shite, the people on here who've never seen him play said so. 5 Quote
bluebruce Posted August 5 Posted August 5 Just now, Ossydave said: You're wrong, he's shite, the people on here who've never seen him play said so. Has anybody said that? I've seen people say we have downgraded from Brittain, but nobody who has actually said he's shite. 2 Quote
miqaayil Posted August 5 Posted August 5 1 hour ago, JBiz said: Is it only me who is bored stiff of this stuff? Why would owners who don’t give a fuck about the club set a perceived false agenda? To safe face? Give me a break. tax and financial purposes ...if they don't give a fuk...we'll be in admin or filed bankruptcy ...they can't do both as they'll be called for the instruments by the bank... every cost in rovers books is inflated ...especially agent fees Quote
KentExile Posted August 5 Posted August 5 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Ossydave said: You're wrong, he's shite, the people on here who've never seen him play said so. 5 minutes ago, bluebruce said: Has anybody said that? I've seen people say we have downgraded from Brittain, but nobody who has actually said he's shite. I will make a further prediction When Liverpool replace Salah, that will also be a downgrade However, his replacement will still be good, probably one of the best Both of those things can be true simultaneously Edited August 5 by KentExile Quote
Leonard Venkhater Posted August 5 Posted August 5 4 minutes ago, bluebruce said: Has anybody said that? I've seen people say we have downgraded from Brittain, but nobody who has actually said he's shite. Anyone remember the collective attitude, when Mark Atkins replaced Chrissy Price? 4 Quote
oneandycrawford Posted August 5 Posted August 5 2 minutes ago, Leonard Venkhater said: Anyone remember the collective attitude, when Mark Atkins replaced Chrissy Price? And to be fair he wasn't a good right-back. Remember him taking a lot of stick from the Riverside (no surprise there!) Moving him into midfield was inspired though. Was that Tony P or Don Mackay who did that? 2 Quote
Paul Mani Posted August 5 Posted August 5 It’s a great point… The number who are ‘concerned’ or blatantly claim were weaker now, simply because they’ve not seen the signings play is laughable. Listen, all of the players we’ve signed COULD be shit, but I’m not stupid enough to write anyone off until I’ve watched them play and the number of fully grown men willing to do so is truly bewildering! 🤷🏽♂️🤣 5 Quote
Popular Post KentExile Posted August 5 Popular Post Posted August 5 4 minutes ago, Paul Mani said: It’s a great point… The number who are ‘concerned’ or blatantly claim were weaker now, simply because they’ve not seen the signings play is laughable. Listen, all of the players we’ve signed COULD be shit, but I’m not stupid enough to write anyone off until I’ve watched them play and the number of fully grown men willing to do so is truly bewildering! 🤷🏽♂️🤣 I think very few, if any, have written players off before seeing them play. What has happened, is people have noticed patterns over years, looked at the experience/careers/price/etc of players going out, vs payers coming in, and come to a conclusion. I said a few days ago that in most cases, any players brought in are likely to be an immediate downgrade on any they replace. Now this doesn't mean that any new signings are going to be rubbish, and it doesn't mean that they wont improve, and possibly even given time, be better than those who they replaced. But it is a logical step, seeing as we are in general replacing experienced Championship performers with younger players from overseas 11 Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted August 5 Posted August 5 8 minutes ago, Paul Mani said: It’s a great point… The number who are ‘concerned’ or blatantly claim were weaker now, simply because they’ve not seen the signings play is laughable. Listen, all of the players we’ve signed COULD be shit, but I’m not stupid enough to write anyone off until I’ve watched them play and the number of fully grown men willing to do so is truly bewildering! 🤷🏽♂️🤣 We could be stronger if we sign a right winger who can make things happen. My reservations are - I haven’t seen many good 6’2” fullbacks and not many centre halves make good full backs. Of course I’ll reserve judgement until I’ve seen him play in the flesh. 2 Quote
aletheia Posted August 5 Posted August 5 I look forward to all the new replacements -of course, time will be needed for bedding in, adapting to the new project and transition - and then I look forward to significant expenditure in January for reinforcements for a definite promotion push that will propel us into the top 6 -it's been coming for some time now (apart from league 1 of course).... Quote
BankEnd Rover Posted August 5 Posted August 5 26 minutes ago, bluebruce said: Has anybody said that? I've seen people say we have downgraded from Brittain, but nobody who has actually said he's shite. Think his overall point is that people saying x player is not as good as x without seeing both play. 3 Quote
B16Rover Posted August 5 Posted August 5 26 minutes ago, bluebruce said: Has anybody said that? I've seen people say we have downgraded from Brittain, but nobody who has actually said he's shite. I've not outright said it but I've voiced concern SPL fans don't think he's a technical player, and outside of Korea (recent loss), Saudi (recent win) and Japan (recent win) - I don't pay much attention to his overlapping ability against Indonesia and Bahrain Very excited to be proved wrong Quote
Paul Mellelieu Posted August 5 Posted August 5 It's a big if, but if the Brittain money helps us bring in a better wide player to replace RH, then maybe we won't be weaker overall. Quote
KentExile Posted August 5 Posted August 5 Just now, Paul Mellelieu said: It's a big if, but if the Brittain money helps us bring in a better wide player to replace RH, then maybe we won't be weaker overall. Income does not impact the budget - Rudy Apr 25 😉 Quote
BankEnd Rover Posted August 5 Posted August 5 Just now, KentExile said: Income does not impact the budget - Rudy Apr 25 😉 I think we can all agree that no more money will be spent after Baradji. Our budget was 5million if I'm not mistaken, we are surely in n around that mark after Henriksson and Baradji. 1 1 Quote
Paul Mani Posted August 5 Posted August 5 10 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: We could be stronger if we sign a right winger who can make things happen. My reservations are - I haven’t seen many good 6’2” fullbacks and not many centre halves make good full backs. Of course I’ll reserve judgement until I’ve seen him play in the flesh. I agree with all of this. Just can’t wait to see them in the flesh first. 1 Quote
Paul Mellelieu Posted August 5 Posted August 5 6 minutes ago, KentExile said: Income does not impact the budget - Rudy Apr 25 😉 Not sure that's the message from VI. but thanks for repeating something mentioned 56 times on the thread. Quote
Tugayisgod Posted August 5 Posted August 5 3 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said: I think we can all agree that no more money will be spent after Baradji. Our budget was 5million if I'm not mistaken, we are surely in n around that mark after Henriksson and Baradji. Hasn't Elliott said Baradji won't be coming now as all our eSC slots have been taken up with Axel ? Only way it can happen is if Mafoumbi is moved on 1 Quote
Paul Mani Posted August 5 Posted August 5 12 minutes ago, KentExile said: I think very few, if any, have written players off before seeing them play. What has happened, is people have noticed patterns over years, looked at the experience/careers/price/etc of players going out, vs payers coming in, and come to a conclusion. I said a few days ago that in most cases, any players brought in are likely to be an immediate downgrade on any they replace. Now this doesn't mean that any new signings are going to be rubbish, and it doesn't mean that they wont improve, and possibly even given time, be better than those who they replaced. But it is a logical step, seeing as we are in general replacing experienced Championship performers with younger players from overseas Really? I’ve seen plenty of posts insisting that we are weaker now. In spite of signing six players. Most of whom none of us (including myself) have seen play. At best that’s saying the players we’ve signed are no better than the ones who’ve left, at worst those posters are saying the players who’ve signed are shite. My point is, how could any of us know? It’s not even like the Danny Batth, Weiman, Cantwell etc situation last year where there would’ve been a number of fans who had watched those players and formed an opinion. We could be significantly worse off, or we could be significantly better off. Only time will tell. 2 Quote
KentExile Posted August 5 Posted August 5 3 minutes ago, Paul Mellelieu said: Not sure that's the message from VI. but thanks for repeating something mentioned 56 times on the thread. 48 times by myself 🙂 You are most welcome, I will endeavor to say it again when it is next relevant 1 Quote
BankEnd Rover Posted August 5 Posted August 5 1 minute ago, Tugayisgod said: Hasn't Elliott said Baradji won't be coming now as all our eSC slots have been taken up with Axel ? Only way it can happen is if Mafoumbi is moved on Baradji will come in 100% if Travis leaves, he has to...Mafoumbi will be released or sold. Quote
KentExile Posted August 5 Posted August 5 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Paul Mani said: Really? I’ve seen plenty of posts insisting that we are weaker now. In spite of signing six players. Most of whom none of us (including myself) have seen play. At best that’s saying the players we’ve signed are no better than the ones who’ve left, at worst those posters are saying the players who’ve signed are shite. My point is, how could any of us know? It’s not even like the Danny Batth, Weiman, Cantwell etc situation last year where there would’ve been a number of fans who had watched those players and formed an opinion. We could be significantly worse off, or we could be significantly better off. Only time will tell. You seem to have disregarded the content of my previous post and just replied to something else Edited August 5 by KentExile Quote
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