chaddyrovers Posted Monday at 09:17 Posted Monday at 09:17 12 hours ago, Mercer said: Where does it say it's a prediction? IT IS NOT A PREDICTION - it is a personal view "I wish I could sit here with 100% certainty that Rovers wont suffer any points deduction this season - sadly, with our ownership and executive management, I can't". We seen plenty of these comments from you previously 12 hours ago, Mercer said: It was the referee's decision - the ball would not bounce, it would not run and the pitch had become a big risk for the players' safety. McKenna was right to flag his concerns. Roles reversed and Ismael would have done the same. What can you not see? I don't agree with the Ref decision. 12 hours ago, Mercer said: Embarrassing to expect Rovers to go down. Why? Do you not think it's embarrassing when you seem to forecast Rovers to win every game? What is your forecast for the Coventry game? Why would I back against my own club I support through the good and bad times? My support dont waive at all Quote
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roversfan99 Posted Monday at 09:23 Posted Monday at 09:23 You dont have to predict that theyll win every game to be a supporter. Thinking that they might struggle in or not win a game doesnt make you any less of a supporter. 7 1 Quote
Mattyblue Posted Monday at 09:40 Posted Monday at 09:40 Why is it ‘embarrassing’ to think we’ll go down? Quote
Mercer Posted Monday at 10:13 Posted Monday at 10:13 13 hours ago, Mercer said: Where does it say it's a prediction? IT IS NOT A PREDICTION - it is a personal view "I wish I could sit here with 100% certainty that Rovers wont suffer any points deduction this season - sadly, with our ownership and executive management, I can't". It was the referee's decision - the ball would not bounce, it would not run and the pitch had become a big risk for the players' safety. McKenna was right to flag his concerns. Roles reversed and Ismael would have done the same. What can you not see? Embarrassing to expect Rovers to go down. Why? Do you not think it's embarrassing when you seem to forecast Rovers to win every game? What is your forecast for the Coventry game? 40 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: We seen plenty of these comments from you previously I don't agree with the Ref decision. Why would I back against my own club I support through the good and bad times? My support dont waive at all It's a personal view - in my eyes it is not a 100% certainty that Rovers will not suffer a points deduction this season. You are all over the place - firstly you say it's a prediction which it isn't and then you say 'we've seen plenty of these comments previously' when it's the first time I've mentioned a points reduction against the Rovers. Get a grip of yourself. I think you are one of the very few who don't agree with the ref's decision - boot on the other foot and Rovers losing, you would have been saying it was the only decision the ref could make! There was no bigger supporter than Jack Walker and even he didn't expect Rovers to win every game. It is not embarrassing as a fan if you think Rovers will get relegated - I think the only embarrassment sits with our owners and executive management who have allowed this situation to arise. A I have said to you before, take your head out of the sand, smell the coffee and stop trying to defend the indefensible where Rovers are concerned - my God, bet Pasha and Gestede would like all fans to be like you and that is not a compliment!!!!! Quote
jim mk2 Posted Monday at 10:16 Posted Monday at 10:16 57 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Why would I back against my own club I support through the good and bad times? My support dont waive at all 3 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted Monday at 10:33 Posted Monday at 10:33 6 minutes ago, Mercer said: I think you are one of the very few who don't agree with the ref's decision - boot on the other foot and Rovers losing, you would have been saying it was the only decision the ref could make! Well at least I've stuck my original opinion which was same when it was abandoned 7 minutes ago, Mercer said: It is not embarrassing as a fan if you think Rovers will get relegated Disagree here. We won't agree so we leave it there. 8 minutes ago, Mercer said: I have said to you before, take your head out of the sand, smell the coffee and stop trying to defend the indefensible where Rovers are concerned Mercer, dont get me any advise. I will have my opinion and make own decisions. Don't need lectures from yourself thanks. Enjoy your day Mercer 👍 Quote
Backroom DE. Posted Wednesday at 11:23 Backroom Posted Wednesday at 11:23 Javi Gracia: Watford reappoint former boss after sacking Paulo Pezzolano - BBC Sport The Watford managerial merry-go-round continues. Gracia hops back on. Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted Wednesday at 17:21 Posted Wednesday at 17:21 5 hours ago, DE. said: Javi Gracia: Watford reappoint former boss after sacking Paulo Pezzolano - BBC Sport The Watford managerial merry-go-round continues. Gracia hops back on. they might as well pull a fan out of the crowd and give him/her a chance,nobody last very long at vicarage road Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago On 08/10/2025 at 12:23, DE. said: Javi Gracia: Watford reappoint former boss after sacking Paulo Pezzolano - BBC Sport The Watford managerial merry-go-round continues. Gracia hops back on. What a huge surprise(not)!!! Quote
JHRover Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 6 hours ago, chaddyrovers said: What a huge surprise(not)!!! Does it matter if they finish above us? 1 Quote
roversfan99 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago Made an appointment in Cleverley that clearly hadnt worked, have him more than a season and in the second half of that season, no team had worse results in the second half of the season so clearly going in the wrong direction. Sacked him understandably. Appointed someone, quickly identified he wasnt working so sacked him too. Need to work on appointments but at least they act when they wont work. Unlike us with Ismael. Takes one correct appointment and they are away. Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago (edited) 2 hours ago, roversfan99 said: Made an appointment in Cleverley that clearly hadnt worked, have him more than a season and in the second half of that season, no team had worse results in the second half of the season so clearly going in the wrong direction. Sacked him understandably. Appointed someone, quickly identified he wasnt working so sacked him too. Need to work on appointments but at least they act when they wont work. Unlike us with Ismael. Takes one correct appointment and they are away. Maybe if they actually give one a chance and full season they might actually get somewhere. They sacked Rob Edwards far too early yet he took Luton to PL and Boro up there this season They are 11th and in the last 3 games, won 2 drew 1. Yet sacked him. Very strange and weird ownership Edited 6 hours ago by chaddyrovers Quote
roversfan99 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 32 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Maybe if they actually give one a chance and full season they might actually get somewhere. They sacked Rob Edwards far too early yet he took Luton to PL and Boro up there this season They are 11th and in the last 3 games, won 2 drew 1. Yet sacked him. Very strange and weird ownership I wish we had their owners. Much better than ours. 2 Quote
JHRover Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said: Maybe if they actually give one a chance and full season they might actually get somewhere. They sacked Rob Edwards far too early yet he took Luton to PL and Boro up there this season They are 11th and in the last 3 games, won 2 drew 1. Yet sacked him. Very strange and weird ownership By contrast we've given managers bucket loads of time - Bowyer got 2 years+, Mowbray 5 years +, JDT and Eustace would have had as long as they wanted if they had been willing to stick around and put up with it. And we've got nowhere. They've been to the PL, stayed there and got to the FA Cup final. Not bad for a small club. 'Strange and weird' may well be a fair description for their owners. Still it beats disgraceful, lying, club wrecking which we've got here yet you seem content not to criticise. Edited 4 hours ago by JHRover 5 Quote
Mattyblue Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago At least they have a proactive (very active) approach to their club, can question their patience, but at least they care. Comprare and contrast to whatever our ‘custodians’ are supposed to be. 1 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, JHRover said: By contrast we've given managers bucket loads of time - Bowyer got 2 years+, Mowbray 5 years +, JDT and Eustace would have had as long as they wanted if they had been willing to stick around and put up with it. And we've got nowhere. They've been to the PL, stayed there and got to the FA Cup final. Not bad for a small club. 'Strange and weird' may well be a fair description for their owners. Still it beats disgraceful, lying, club wrecking which we've got here yet you seem content not to criticise. Nowhere hear what we did tho. King Kenny did here taking us to PL and then winning the league. Souness got us promotion and League cup winner.. Hughes got us top 10 finishes and regular European football. Not bad for town club in North West is it? 😁 Watford might achieve something like playoffs if they actually back a head coach for a couple of season. Sacking their head coach in 11th place seriously.a good move after 2 wins and 1 draw in their last 3 games?. Quote
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted 2 hours ago Moderation Lead Posted 2 hours ago Watford sack managers too often, but at least they do it as they’re chasing success. We’re chasing fuck all. 1 Quote
roversfan99 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Backing a manager blindly for a random and definitive period of time doesnt automatically lead to success. Maybe we should have given Coyle a season or 2? Quote
London blue Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 44 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Nowhere hear what we did tho. King Kenny did here taking us to PL and then winning the league. Souness got us promotion and League cup winner.. Hughes got us top 10 finishes and regular European football. Not bad for town club in North West is it? 😁 You're talking about a bygone time, may as well talk about Crompton et al for the relevance it has to our current situation. For the avoidance of doubt, Watford are a far better run club than ours and are far more likely to taste success (by any metric you choose) than we are under the current regime. Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 39 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Backing a manager blindly for a random and definitive period of time doesnt automatically lead to success. Maybe we should have given Coyle a season or 2? Did Paulo Pezzolano after 10 games with 3 wins. 3 draws and 4 lost? new head coach in a new league. Maybe need time to adapt to it bring Coyle into this debate is clueless and pointless argument. Borderline ridiculous to be frank Edited 1 hour ago by chaddyrovers Quote
JHRover Posted 30 minutes ago Posted 30 minutes ago (edited) 2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said: Nowhere hear what we did tho. King Kenny did here taking us to PL and then winning the league. Souness got us promotion and League cup winner.. Hughes got us top 10 finishes and regular European football. Not bad for town club in North West is it? 😁 Watford might achieve something like playoffs if they actually back a head coach for a couple of season. Sacking their head coach in 11th place seriously.a good move after 2 wins and 1 draw in their last 3 games?. I'm not sure of the relevance of any of those things. I'm well aware of our history all of which occurred under a different ownership - a proactive engaged ambitious owner / his legacy and not the current shysters. I've told you what Watford have achieved under their current ownership - promotion, PL survival and a cup final. None of which these owners or their mates will ever deliver here, even by accident when the opportunity drops into their lap unexpectedly (Mowbray, JDT, Eustace). Watford achieved all the above with their hire and fire culture - ruthless and decisive - not everyone's cup of tea but it got them up. The first season they went up they had 4 managers in a season and the second time around they sacked Ivic after no time despite a high win %. Only time will tell if it is a good move to sack their manager. If they shoot up the table then it probably has been a good move yes. If they get relegated then no. It suggests to me that whoever is making decisions there is actually looking at the bigger picture - not just a few results - and probably speaking to people behind the scenes, players, staff and assessing whether all is well or not. These all normal routine things for most clubs - ownership and management actually keeping an eye on things and ensuring changes are made for the betterment of the club and results. Alien concepts here I'm sure even you could agree. We haven't seen invested ownership or a focus on results since the day these people darkened our doors. It's similar to Forest - Marinakis doesn't mess about and won't hesitate to sack people. You might not like that approach but it has worked for them - another club that has left Rovers in the dust when 10 years ago we were well ahead of them. Edited 27 minutes ago by JHRover Quote
roversfan99 Posted 17 minutes ago Posted 17 minutes ago On a bigger scale, Chelsea under Abramovic were the same. 1 Quote
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