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[Goozburger]

2 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

never thought my comment on tyjon getting some first team minutes and stepping up a level would cause such angst🤒

I think it's only you that's angst after throwing your toys out of the pram for being questioned over your opinion. I've got no problem with your opinion. It's yours. But I'm allowed to question it. Ironically, if you can't handle that, then perhaps a public message board isn't the place for you rather than telling others it's not a place for them.

[KentExile]

8 minutes ago, Goozburger said:

I'd wager most of us have hardly seen Tyjon play (much). I have only heard about how good he's supposed to be. The £1m bid from Arsenal probably tells me more about the modern workings of football than it does about Tyjon himself as a player. And I think this is how a lot of young players in this same bucket as Tyjon (Phillip might be a good example) is more a sign of how the English game is good at destroying players rather than nurturing them.

I shed a tear at Connor Mahoney. What a player for us he was, and we barely caught a glimpse. Wasted.

Ash Phillips, barely caught a glimpse, and it feels like his development has curtailed.

Still, with Ohashi and Gueye, I cannot see how Tyjon is going to "step up" in the Championship this season. In my view, he doesn't have to. Just continue developing at Rovers because you've got time on your side, and if you REALLY were as good as Rooney or Pele at 16 (which I know is some of the others' point), then it would have been clear by now. He's obviously not, so let's not overhype him to have to do this or do that. He's at the level he's at. Only the modern game and attraction of money too much, too soon, will destroy him.

Tyjon is more of a 10 than an out and out striker (although he is more of a goalscoring 10 than a creator), will be the perfect excuse to not sign back up for Cantwell

Edited Saturday at 15:59 by KentExile

[Neal]

I asked Gemini it's says it's Ryan Alebiosu... Doesn't look like him though.

[simongarnerisgod]

1 minute ago, Goozburger said:

I think it's only you that's angst after throwing your toys out of the pram for being questioned over your opinion. I've got no problem with your opinion. It's yours. But I'm allowed to question it. Ironically, if you can't handle that, then perhaps a public message board isn't the place for you rather than telling others it's not a place for them.

😀i told you to go and sit in the shade,you`re overheating

[KentExile]

Just now, Neal said:

I asked Gemini it's says it's Ryan Alebiosu... Doesn't look like him though.

free AI is still shit

[Goozburger]

Just now, KentExile said:

Tyjon is more of a 10 than an out and out striker, will be the perfect excuse to not sign back up for Cantwell

True, he did play in the number 10 role today. Jackson suggested he is a clever player who needs game time to mature and get used to the men's game. Sounds about right as an assessment to me. If he does go to Arsenal or another club to sit in the youth team, so be it. That's how the game rolls these days. Otherwise, if he stays at Rovers, a season of getting occasional game time off the bench could see us with a first-team player next season rather than this. Fingers crossed.

[MarkBRFC]

3 minutes ago, Goozburger said:

Otherwise, if he stays at Rovers, a season of getting occasional game time off the bench could see us with a first-team player next season rather than this. Fingers crossed.

Out of contract next summer, highly unlikely he's here after this season i reckon.

[WacoRover]

One of the things I like about this board… 

Nobody gets carried away, but all are true fans, who love Rovers. Regardless of what league they’re in. 

[Tomphil2]

8 minutes ago, Neal said:

I asked Gemini it's says it's Ryan Alebiosu... Doesn't look like him though.

Absolutely notorious for matching wrong photos and videos with things it just grabs whatever is available.

[Goozburger]

10 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Phillips 2 years on now is massively in demand at this level due to performances so not sure how its curtailed.

I reckon Phillips would have been far better off as a player staying at Rovers and getting a season or two of being a first-team regular under his belt than going to Spurs when he did. We're talking about Stoke City (let's say a club on a par with us) being interested in buying him.

The path which Adam Wharton took is the way to go, and even that can happen very quickly. He established himself as a first team regular at Rovers for a season or so (?) before earning his deserved move to the Premier League. In other words, he proved he could do it in the Championship. Tyjon hasn't. I'd argue Phillips didn't, either. Not over a prolonged period, at least. I feel like these players should be doing that before jumping ship.

Basically, copy and paste the Wharton way rather than going for the quick big bucks and hoping you'll get a settled pattern across multiple loans. Just my opinion.

[BankEnd Rover]

Hearing Kargbo looked lively, good to hear! 

[MarkBRFC]

Trialist a player for the academy rather than the first team according to Elliot.

[RoversClitheroe]

1 minute ago, MarkBRFC said:

Trialist a player for the academy rather than the first team according to Elliot.

He was assuming 

[roversfan99]

2 minutes ago, Goozburger said:

I reckon Phillips would have been far better off as a player staying at Rovers and getting a season or two of being a first-team regular under his belt than going to Spurs when he did. We're talking about Stoke City (let's say a club on a par with us) being interested in buying him.

The path which Adam Wharton took is the way to go, and even that can happen very quickly. He established himself as a first team regular at Rovers for a season or so (?) before earning his deserved move to the Premier League. In other words, he proved he could do it in the Championship. Tyjon hasn't. I'd argue Phillips didn't, either. Not over a prolonged period, at least. I feel like these players should be doing that before jumping ship.

Basically, copy and paste the Wharton way rather than going for the quick big bucks and hoping you'll get a settled pattern across multiple loans. Just my opinion.

Phillips has been playing regular Championship football for a season and a half. 

And he wasnt here.

Linked with Sheff United.

[Goozburger]

1 minute ago, roversfan99 said:

Phillips has been playing regular Championship football for a season and a half. 

And he wasnt here.

Linked with Sheff United.

Wharton stayed here for a good season or more after establishing himself in the Rovers first team. Look how that's worked out for him.

Phillips left two years ago and is being linked with clubs in the same league as us. I don't know if that's progression, really. I still think he would have been better off and would have earned playing rights in a side like Palace by now. But I suppose he is doing OK for himself and he could still blossom. Which proves that players often need time in spite of talking about Rooney and Pele!

[JBiz]

1 minute ago, roversfan99 said:

Phillips has been playing regular Championship football for a season and a half. 

And he wasnt here.

Linked with Sheff United.

The point of every RF99 post;

We fucked up.

 

 

[rigger]

What was the final score ?

[BankEnd Rover]

2 minutes ago, rigger said:

What was the final score ?

We lost 8-1 pasha scored an over head kick for us.

[Theaxe15]

14 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

Trialist a player for the academy rather than the first team according to Elliot.

Thought they’d just name him if it was…

[B16Rover]

3 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

We lost 8-1 pasha scored an over head kick for us.

Standard, he's not bothered about the results on the pitch it's just all overheads overheads overheads 

Edited Saturday at 16:29 by B16Rover

[roversfan99]

6 minutes ago, JBiz said:

The point of every RF99 post;

We fucked up.

 

 

If youve taken that conclusion from that post then the issue is your confirmation bias.

[roversfan99]

7 minutes ago, Goozburger said:

Wharton stayed here for a good season or more after establishing himself in the Rovers first team. Look how that's worked out for him.

Phillips left two years ago and is being linked with clubs in the same league as us. I don't know if that's progression, really. I still think he would have been better off and would have earned playing rights in a side like Palace by now. But I suppose he is doing OK for himself and he could still blossom. Which proves that players often need time in spite of talking about Rooney and Pele!

That assumes that every player that stays like Wharton goes on to do what he does.

Phillips is clearly not at the same level.

Point being, Phillips has now played 18 months of consecutive regular Championship football. He probably wouldnt have here.

[JBiz]

2 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

If youve taken that conclusion from that post then the issue is your confirmation bias.

Like you, I watched the Phillips saga unfold. You’re  suggesting he had the best advice and acted on it, and everything else was an issue created by the club, which anyone with an ounce of clarity knows is nonsense. You do it with every scenario.

[JBiz]

4 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

That assumes that every player that stays like Wharton goes on to do what he does.

Phillips is clearly not at the same level.

Point being, Phillips has now played 18 months of consecutive regular Championship football. He probably wouldnt have here.

If he’d stayed here he’d likely be first choice already. 

[roversfan99]

9 minutes ago, JBiz said:

Like you, I watched the Phillips saga unfold. You’re  suggesting he had the best advice and acted on it, and everything else was an issue created by the club, which anyone with an ounce of clarity knows is nonsense. You do it with every scenario.

You've taken my comments, massively snowballed your own narrative and then fit it into your theory that everything that I post goes back to the idea that the club is fucked.

My point was firstly that he isnt at the same level as Wharton. But that he has gone on to play 1 and a half seasons worth of regular football at Championship level, working up from Plymouth to Stoke and really impressing. I actually think he would have played less football here. I think so far, his move has been justified from a footballing and financial perspective.

It was in no way a comment about the club, just about the decision Phillips made. Due to his age and ths rules, it was very difficult to stop him.

You have just made it into that and created your own narrative to be able to say "typical RF99."