StHelensRover Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago Just a thought, looking at the table. Hull City are 6th. They stayed up last season on the last game of the season, they've been under some kind of transfer embargo and could only sign freebies. So they spent zero money and turned a relegation fodder team into one challenging the top 6. We should have absolutely loads of money to spend based on previous sales. Yet we've gone from challenging the top 6 to relegation fodder, losing tons of championship experience and bringing in a load of players none of us had heard of, most of which are rubbish. How's this happened? Wouldn't be down to how competent the decision makers at the club are, or anything like that? 6 Quote
Guy N. Cognito Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 7 minutes ago, G Somerset Rover said: There are too many ominous signs for why we will head down this season. - 150th season. I mean, that alone, under Venky’s ownership. - Can’t beat any of the sides around us - Can’t keep clean sheets - Not getting points from games we should do - Continuously conceding late winners/equalisers - Games abondoned on the extremely rare occasion when we are winning. Im afraid it’s happening whether you believe it or not, ladies and gents. And to be honest, "we" (as a corporate entity) deserve to be relegated. Mismanaged from the top, no CEO, stadium in a state of disrepair, washed-up manager, signings cobbled together from the bargain bucket, inadequate pitch facilities.... No one could argue it was an injustice if this club sank into League One. 9 Quote
aletheia Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago Said at the start of the season that we will finish in bottom third despite a worse team and even worse (!) hierarchy. Sadly, if that is the case RG et al will perceive the new 'alignment' as a project in motion and justified. Plus some commentators on here will be at it too -transition, bedding in, kick on next season - we know the playbook. 3 Quote
TheRoversGRL Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago I said at the start of the season. We will get relegated. People said no chance, we’re too good. It’s happening. Quote
Moptop1 Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago And so this page starts again… What a way to celebrate our 150 year anniversary!!! Sick to death of it all.😡 2 Quote
StHelensRover Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago On this exact day in 2016 we lost to Brighton 3-2 at Ewood (Duffy scored on his return). This was the line-up, it was a team that was relegated with 51 points. Is it better than the team now? I think so, just about. I'm worried we won't get to 51 points this year and what that means. Quote
Waggy76 Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago I would be amazed if this team gets 51 points. Graham , Conway ,Lenihan and a younger Gallagher was more useful . The above 4 would walk into our team now . Bennett ,Evans probably too but not sure how many game they played .. 3 Quote
Hasta Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago (edited) The problem clearly is the downgrading which leads to lack of consistency. Look at the goals conceded recently and most of them are easily identifiable bad mistakes. The two today are De Neve losing his man and Ribero / Pears inexplicably not stopping the corner. Oxford was McLaughlin (I think) stupidly heading it into his own are instead of clearing it. Ipswich was Miller just not getting near a 40 yard punt forward. QPR was De Neve just watching his man for 20 seconds before the ball came in. Theres only the Wrexham one where you can’t allocate clear blame. Edited 19 hours ago by Hasta 3 Quote
RTM08 Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 1 hour ago, Herbie6590 said: Four teams below us: P4 W0 D1 L2 Aban 1 Four teams above us: P4 W0 D0 L4 We’re f*cked… This alone should get the manager sacked. We're lucky we hit Southampton and Leicester before they got their acts together or we'd already be losing ground. Quote
davulsukur Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago We were always 1 bad managerial appointment away from oblivion. When you throw in the worst summer business from a football club in many a year, you're well and truly on the back foot from the off. And we still have our post Xmas collapse to come. 6 Quote
wilsdenrover Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago (edited) 16 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said: Results when we’ve scored first: W 5 D 3 L 4 Of those 12 games, we’ve only scored further goals in 3 of them. I posted the above in the Portsmouth thread but I’ll put the follow up here… Results of the first 12 matches we scored first inlast season: W 10 D 2 We scored further goals in 7 of them. Edited 19 hours ago by wilsdenrover Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 1 hour ago, Waggy76 said: I would be amazed if this team gets 51 points. Graham , Conway ,Lenihan and a younger Gallagher was more useful . The above 4 would walk into our team now . Bennett ,Evans probably too but not sure how many game they played .. though coyle was a car crash of a manager,he did manage to bring some decent players in Quote
KentExile Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago (edited) 9 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said: though coyle was a car crash of a manager,he did manage to bring some decent players in The only one of those he brought in was Gallagher, Graham was already here on loan and then signed on a free, so pretty sure that the legwork was done in advance for that one Apart from that, Mulgrew was good, Derrick Williams was ok, then it was rubbish like Stokes, Byrne, Samuelsson, Hendrie, a past it Wes Brown, Greer, Feeney Those signings look like the domestic equivalent of this summers signings, some good, most average at best Edited 18 hours ago by KentExile Quote
Athlete Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 1 hour ago, KentExile said: The only one of those he brought in was Gallagher, Graham was already here on loan and then signed on a free, so pretty sure that the legwork was done in advance for that one Apart from that, Mulgrew was good, Derrick Williams was ok, then it was rubbish like Stokes, Byrne, Samuelsson, Hendrie, a past it Wes Brown, Greer, Feeney Those signings look like the domestic equivalent of this summers signings, some good, most average at best But better than the dross brought in last summer Quote
alcd Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 30 minutes ago, Athlete said: But better than the dross brought in last summer Henriksson terrible. Today played a throw in straight into touch. DeNeve terrible. Well documented elsewhere and confirmed by Ismael's own after match comments. Gudjohansen lazy and contributes little except an occasional goal. Tavares lazy and disinterested. Mclauglin very error prone. Miller distribution appalling.TGJ headless chicken. 1 Quote
philipl Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 1 point from Norwich, Oxford, Portsmouth and Swansea. Slitting our own throats. 1 Quote
JHRover Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago And just think about what is going to happen come the summer if we do manage to avoid relegation. Gestede collects his bonus and then sets about offloading some more of our bigger earners and better players to make some money and reduce the wage bill further. Quote
Waggy76 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, JHRover said: And just think about what is going to happen come the summer if we do manage to avoid relegation. Gestede collects his bonus and then sets about offloading some more of our bigger earners and better players to make some money and reduce the wage bill further. We won't avoid relegation ! The owners are making sure of that , they have been trying for 3 seasons ! Quote
sharpysharps86 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Just looking ahead to the fixtures for the reast of the season, those final 9 games make for very bleak viewing. Millwall away Boro at home Brum away WBA at home Stoke away Coventry at home Sheff United away Southampton away Leicester at home The fact that they've not managed to beat any of the teams around them has me thinking it's inevitable that they go down this season. 1 1 Quote
G Somerset Rover Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 8 minutes ago, sharpysharps86 said: Just looking ahead to the fixtures for the reast of the season, those final 9 games make for very bleak viewing. Millwall away Boro at home Brum away WBA at home Stoke away Coventry at home Sheff United away Southampton away Leicester at home The fact that they've not managed to beat any of the teams around them has me thinking it's inevitable that they go down this season. Jesus Christ. I missed that off my ‘reasons why we’re going down’ post on this thread. That would have been number 2 behind Venky’s taking us down on our 150th year. 1 Quote
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