simongarnerisgod Posted Thursday at 22:31 Posted Thursday at 22:31 we need serious investment in january,all over the pitch,it`s plainly not going to happen,judging by previous windows looking to me like the only teams worse than us are sheff wed,oxford and portsmouth,if we finish 4th bottom then val has done his job,you can`t do much else with a squad like ours Quote
chaddyrovers Posted yesterday at 10:17 Author Posted yesterday at 10:17 12 hours ago, roversfan99 said: Montgomery was constantly being bigged up in the summer, I don't rate him but thats what they were doing, hasnt started a game. Why dont you rate him? Would does he have to do to improve 12 hours ago, roversfan99 said: Has any youngster started a game this season from the academy? In the league or do cup games count?. Quote
SIMON GARNERS 194 Posted yesterday at 10:46 Posted yesterday at 10:46 Where's the Money Honey? 1 Quote
KentExile Posted yesterday at 11:28 Posted yesterday at 11:28 1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said: Why dont you rate him? Would does he have to do to improve In the league or do cup games count?. no Quote
CaptainBeanfart Posted yesterday at 11:31 Posted yesterday at 11:31 If we're playing 3-5-2 then we need at least one centre back and another striker. Get rid of Kargbo since he doesn't have a role in that layout, and probably one of Pickering/Ribeiro. Obviously every position needs an upgrade but that's where we are short. 1 Quote
Jimmy612 Posted yesterday at 12:24 Posted yesterday at 12:24 2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said: In the league or do cup games count?. Haha, we went out of the cup in August, at the first hurdle. Montgomery was played out of position and had a nightmare, Michalski gifted them a goal and is 3rd choice anyway, and Tyjon huffed and puffed and hasn’t been seen since. Maybe we could consider Tavares as one of the U21s. He’s barely been seen since that game either. Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted yesterday at 12:28 Posted yesterday at 12:28 2 minutes ago, Jimmy612 said: Haha, we went out of the cup in August, at the first hurdle. Montgomery was played out of position and had a nightmare, Michalski gifted them a goal and is 3rd choice anyway, and Tyjon huffed and puffed and hasn’t been seen since. Maybe we could consider Tavares as one of the U21s. He’s barely been seen since that game either. Tavares! I'd forgotten we'd signed him. £2m well spent. Quote
Jimmy612 Posted yesterday at 12:33 Posted yesterday at 12:33 4 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: Tavares! I'd forgotten we'd signed him. £2m well spent. I think we all know that £2m is a work of fiction. Maybe if we win the Premier League we might have to pay it. 2 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted yesterday at 12:39 Posted yesterday at 12:39 3 minutes ago, Jimmy612 said: I think we all know that £2m is a work of fiction. Maybe if we win the Premier League we might have to pay it. That's what the Club claimed we spent on him to make them look good so they can't have it both ways and say "actually it wasn't £2m it was only a cheap punt" when he bombs. 1 Quote
roversfan99 Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 3 hours ago, chaddyrovers said: Why dont you rate him? Would does he have to do to improve In the league or do cup games count?. Based on what we have seen, which isnt enough for me to say with any certainty, I dont think hes up to the level, by quite a bit. You dont count the cup games when defending Ismael's record so presumably they dont count here. Even if they do, graduates starting games is at best seldom happening and only in low priority games. Im not saying they should or shouldnt be playing, but Ismael has said that they purposefully didnt fill the full squad for that (stupid) reason. My point was about the contradictory rubbish that the likes of Gestede and Ismael have come out with and keeping coming out with to try and defend the shambles of a summer. 3 Quote
sharpysharps86 Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago With Carter and Wharton both out long term now, we definitely need a couple of new CB's at least, and a recall for O'Riordan on top of that to ensure we have enough cover for playing 3 CB's. Quote
joey_big_nose Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 11 hours ago, CaptainBeanfart said: If we're playing 3-5-2 then we need at least one centre back and another striker. Get rid of Kargbo since he doesn't have a role in that layout, and probably one of Pickering/Ribeiro. Obviously every position needs an upgrade but that's where we are short. Not convinced by Kargbo but I think a quick forward in his style could work in this 352 up front. As you see with Ohashi alot of the forward play is about running the channels and combining with the wide players. Quote
Tugayisgod Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Still 9 games to play before the window opens (and probably more before we get deals over the line) We are probably fine everywhere except of course defensively, I honestly don't know what we would do Miller or McLoughlin get injured or suspended. Same goes for Alebiosu. Can't think of the answer in the current squad for those places Quote
KentExile Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 34 minutes ago, Tugayisgod said: Still 9 games to play before the window opens (and probably more before we get deals over the line) We are probably fine everywhere except of course defensively, I honestly don't know what we would do Miller or McLoughlin get injured or suspended. Same goes for Alebiosu. Can't think of the answer in the current squad for those places If that happens, we will be chucking in Litherland/Atcheson at centre back or Houghton at right wing back (or moving Gardner-Hickman/Montgomery there) Terrifyingly thread bare Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 2 hours ago Author Posted 2 hours ago We deffo need a back up for Alebiosu in the next window 3 Quote
davulsukur Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) By switching to a back 3, we've now shot ourselves in the foot with the summer business, quite spectacularly. We need another centre back, although huge credit to Pratt for last night. Huge question marks over the long term fitness of Wharton and Carter, although Wharton did sign a new deal recently, so he's going no where. We need a commanding centre mid, who can really impose himself on the game in the middle of the park. Tronstad was excellent last night and Montgomery played his part too but oddly, he drifted to the left hand side a lot. Not sure if that was tactical or just the player. Neither are the commanding midfielder we need though. Wingbacks need a serious look, we've got 4 left wing backs, Hedges, De Neve, Riberio and Picks and only Alebiosu on the right. Crazily unbalanced. I suspect both Riberio and Pickering will be binned off in January. Attacking midfield also presents a problem as we've now got Morishita, Henrikson and Cantwell vying for 1 place. The obvious candidate to depart would be Cantwell, based on his wages alone but he's captain and probably the better of the 3. Kargbo now doesn't really have a role, likey used as a striker when back but not sure if he even is one or indeed anywhere near good enough. Jury is well and truly out on the lad. After a crazy amount of recruitment in the summer, we now find ourselves needing a reasonable overhaul of players again across the next 2 windows. Edited 2 hours ago by davulsukur Quote
roversfan99 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 3 hours ago, Tugayisgod said: Still 9 games to play before the window opens (and probably more before we get deals over the line) We are probably fine everywhere except of course defensively, I honestly don't know what we would do Miller or McLoughlin get injured or suspended. Same goes for Alebiosu. Can't think of the answer in the current squad for those places We need more than just defenders. You look at the bench and how weak it was last night. Gudjohnsen and Ohashi seem to benefit from the current system (as do a few others) but there is absolutely no credible alternative to the pair of them. If we are sticking to the current system then we badly need most likely 2 more forwards. Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted 1 minute ago Posted 1 minute ago 2 hours ago, davulsukur said: By switching to a back 3, we've now shot ourselves in the foot with the summer business, quite spectacularly. We need another centre back, although huge credit to Pratt for last night. Huge question marks over the long term fitness of Wharton and Carter, although Wharton did sign a new deal recently, so he's going no where. We need a commanding centre mid, who can really impose himself on the game in the middle of the park. Tronstad was excellent last night and Montgomery played his part too but oddly, he drifted to the left hand side a lot. Not sure if that was tactical or just the player. Neither are the commanding midfielder we need though. Wingbacks need a serious look, we've got 4 left wing backs, Hedges, De Neve, Riberio and Picks and only Alebiosu on the right. Crazily unbalanced. I suspect both Riberio and Pickering will be binned off in January. Attacking midfield also presents a problem as we've now got Morishita, Henrikson and Cantwell vying for 1 place. The obvious candidate to depart would be Cantwell, based on his wages alone but he's captain and probably the better of the 3. Kargbo now doesn't really have a role, likey used as a striker when back but not sure if he even is one or indeed anywhere near good enough. Jury is well and truly out on the lad. After a crazy amount of recruitment in the summer, we now find ourselves needing a reasonable overhaul of players again across the next 2 windows. We're mainly short at CB (due to injuries - albeit you always want at least 5 CBs on your books) and RWB. Pickering and Ribeiro aren't WBs, they've both been left out to dry in this formation. Likewise, we have nobody to back up Alebiosu at RWB. I think CM will sort itself out - if Baradji can actually tackle that is. Quote
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