Mercer Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago (edited) 14 minutes ago, XLM said: I think the point is that there isn't any value to telling people that we may or may not sign a guy. Who cares? We haven't learnt anything. I could have told you that. You can't have it every way! Folk moaning that all seemingly quiet on the transfer front. Isn't a purpose of a MB to share information etc with like minded fans across the MB community? If I get the impression that the likes of you and @roversfan99are NOT in a minority of folk disliking these types of post then I will simply stop posting. Edited 10 hours ago by Mercer 1 Quote
XLM Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 54 minutes ago, Mercer said: You can't have it every way! Folk moaning that all seemingly quiet on the transfer front. Isn't a purpose of a MB to share information etc with like minded fans across the MB community? If I get the impression that the likes of you and @roversfan99are NOT in a minority of folk disliking these types of post then I will simply stop posting. Do whatever you want, I couldn't care less. All I'm saying is that it's not information worth reading if I don't learn anything. You know something, cool. Good for you. Quote
yankfan Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 8 hours ago, yellowsubmarine said: Dont worry we will be "attacking" the transfer window. “ Defenders are coming” used to be our war cry. Now it’s “Attackers are imminent” Quote
yankfan Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 6 hours ago, DutchRover said: Desperate form and horrific injury crisis, relegation looming, and Rudy's "exciting plan" is two signings, one of whom is a loan we have to play even if he is crap. Jorgenson seems a decent prospect (by our standards at least), he made more runs in the channel in his 30 minutes against Ipswich than the rest of the team combined over the season (only a slight exaggeration sadly) and has some pace which is good. Might be more a wide-forward than a central striker but could mesh well with Ohashi (similar) and Gudjohnson central. Cashin had a horrible debut, no question, and while he may be talented and just need nurturing, the signing is unbelievably stupid. We are forced to play him ahead of Pratt who is younger, faster, taller, and on the basis of season so far a better CB, and most important actually our player. The signing is actively detrimental, thanks Rudy. I said at the start of the window we didn't need a CB, for all our lack of goals our defence has been ok, and Carter is about to be back giving us McLoughlan, Miller, Carter, Pratt, Atcheson, Litherland which is not ideal but manageable. A replacement for Hyam, who we should never have sold, was only CB I would have been interested in, and Cashin is the exact opposite of that; short and slow, not tall and injury proof. Offloading Gueye was good, but why do we still have Ribeiro and Pickering who Ismael refuses to play? Why not offload them and bring in an actual Wing-Back while Hedges is crippled, and before he leaves on a free when he gets better (shades of Weimann?), because De Neve is the worst positional player I have ever seen in both attack and defense. I said in the match thread god only knows why Kortrijk kept him and loaned out Alebiosu. CM remains an issue as well, Tronstad has checked out and we refuse to resign him, again god knows why (oh wait yeah our ridiculous self-imposed wage cap; thanks our Billionaire owners), TGH and Forshaw are not good enough and neither should have been signed. Baradji has talent but missed half the season and looks better further forward than CM proper. Henriksson has been another awful Gestede signing, a shame that one as he seemed a decent prospect when we signed him in summer. Then again, I keep forgetting we support a club run for Suhail's bonus not success on the field... We will likely sent Pratt out on loan to stager experience in league 1…where he’ll start for us in the fall Quote
yankfan Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 3 hours ago, Mercer said: Understand Rovers would like to snare (on loan) a forward from a leading PL club (already made 1st team debut). He's only young but an amazing talent who would get the fans out of their seats. The lad's in a different league to anything we have (including Tyjon) and it would be a real coup if we managed to get him (if PL club let him out on loan there will be others also in for him) Right so there about 0% chance we get him. Don’t doubt the rumor just the reasoning that hed end up here Quote
Upside Down Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 5 hours ago, bigbrandjohn said: Watching James Hill and Van Hecke shaking hands. Remembering happier times when we were a proving ground for exceptional talent. Cashin isn’t going to replace Van Hecke and Dunk. He shouldn’t have replaced Pratt. An 18 year old scores an overhead kick for Brighton. If you are good enough you are old enough. Happier times is when we would send our young players out on loan to lower league clubs like Brighton and Bournemouth. 7 Quote
Mattyblue Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago ‘Happier times’ when Van Hecke was here and the owners declined to go for promotion despite being up the top at Christmas. ’Happier times’ when Hill was here and JDT would rather walk out on his contract than stay a minute longer. 5 Quote
... Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 5 hours ago, XLM said: Do whatever you want, I couldn't care less. All I'm saying is that it's not information worth reading if I don't learn anything. You know something, cool. Good for you. What's with the crappy attitude dude? Guys just shared something as a heads up. Stop being a wetwipe because he's not told you every detail. If its true great, if not then ... then its not. Nothing happens. 5 Quote
Ricceh Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 8 hours ago, Mercer said: Understand Rovers would like to snare (on loan) a forward from a leading PL club (already made 1st team debut). He's only young but an amazing talent who would get the fans out of their seats. The lad's in a different league to anything we have (including Tyjon) and it would be a real coup IF we managed to get him (if PL club let him out on loan there will be others also in for him). I think it's fair to say if we already are asking for this lad, others are too. I hate to say it, but there isn't really any reason Rovers would be at the top of an exciting young PL talents list. Surely they would be much happier starting for a team without the behind the scenes circus. Quote
islander200 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, Ricceh said: I think it's fair to say if we already are asking for this lad, others are too. I hate to say it, but there isn't really any reason Rovers would be at the top of an exciting young PL talents list. Surely they would be much happier starting for a team without the behind the scenes circus. Will prem clubs really care about the behind the scenes chaos? Both Manchester United and Manchester City have sent promising young players to Sheffield Wednesday. It depends on who the plsyer is and what other clubs we would be competing with. It may be a young player from one of the North West clubs who would rather the player was loaned to a club close to home Quote
jim mk2 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 4 hours ago, Upside Down said: Happier times is when we would send our young players out on loan to lower league clubs like Brighton and Bournemouth. Abso bloomin ‘ lutely Really irks me more than anything when small minded Rovers fans see clubs like them (and Brentford etc) as “above our level” and say we can’t compete with them. They’re not and we can What they are though are well managed clubs with good owners and executives with ambition, confidence and drive and nous. Burnley have shown what is possible. Has to be said but Rovers need to be run on the Burnley model. 2 Quote
Mercer Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 6 hours ago, yankfan said: Right so there about 0% chance we get him. Don’t doubt the rumor just the reasoning that hed end up here 1 hour ago, Ricceh said: I think it's fair to say if we already are asking for this lad, others are too. I hate to say it, but there isn't really any reason Rovers would be at the top of an exciting young PL talents list. Surely they would be much happier starting for a team without the behind the scenes circus. 21 minutes ago, islander200 said: Will prem clubs really care about the behind the scenes chaos? Both Manchester United and Manchester City have sent promising young players to Sheffield Wednesday. It depends on who the plsyer is and what other clubs we would be competing with. It may be a young player from one of the North West clubs who would rather the player was loaned to a club close to home Why Rovers? A short term deal, 'guaranteed' game time thereby gaining invaluable experience and becoming 'battle hardened' in a challenging and competitive league, we have something of a track record with promising young loan players (Elliott and Van Hecke to name but two) and as @islander200 points out, the parent club may prefer the young lad to be loaned to a club close to home for clear reasons. This would not be about money (loan fee, savings on wages etc) for the parent club but would be about hastening the development of a real young talent. Why not Rovers? Edited 2 hours ago by Mercer 2 Quote
joey_big_nose Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 14 minutes ago, jim mk2 said: Abso bloomin ‘ lutely Really irks me more than anything when small minded Rovers fans see clubs like them (and Brentford etc) as “above our level” and say we can’t compete with them. They’re not and we can What they are though are well managed clubs with good owners and executives with ambition, confidence and drive and nous. Burnley have shown what is possible. Has to be said but Rovers need to be run on the Burnley model. With the way the tv money is vastly expanding and the financial gap between Premier League and Championship widening its more about timing really. The resources to bridge the gap and growing year on year. There are a bunch of clubs who made it the mid to end 2010 and have managed to stick or yoyo (Brighton, Brentford, Bournemouth, Palace, Burnley, Sheff Utd, Wolves). But recent years the only new club in who has stuck a bit is Forest and they spent mega money. Will be interesting of Leeds and Sunderland can last. Quote
TheKitGuy Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago I've a feeling we will be looking at someone like Chido Obi, Biancheri or Reigan Heskey Quote
AndyB Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 57 minutes ago, islander200 said: Will prem clubs really care about the behind the scenes chaos? I would have thought coming here to play under the current shit show would be character building for any young player. If you can thrive at Rovers in its' current state, then you'll be OK anywhere. 1 Quote
roverblue Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago I am at a point where with Ismael I don't think even a tonne of better players would make the difference anymore. He is out of his depth tactically and has no ability to motivate the players. His media skills and excuse culture are the worst since Kean. If we loan some young wonder kids they will drop off a cliff after losing a few in a row. We need a new manager and a raft of experienced championship pros ASAP to keep us up. Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 9 hours ago, Mercer said: Surely, you understand the sensitivities around naming players and that then spreading around social media and alerting other potential suitors. How many players have Rovers signed over last 18 months and name only known when deal done with posters on here then commenting 'that's how to do your business'!!! I named Daniel Oyegoke earlier in the window - difference being good possibility only Rovers might be interested in him and therefore much smaller risk in him being snared by some other club. It's certainly not a stab in the dark!!! Are you for real!? Pretty sure Rovers' fans on this MB would be very interested to know that an exciting young forward talent with a leading PL club is on Rovers' radar. This lad would be a real coup. You are always at me and trying to diss me. Just put me on ignore if you think I post rubbish. Thanks for that Merc. He’d have to be a lot better than Tyjon to get me out of my seat. 3 Quote
pedrob2014 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Going off the stuff Mercer had put I am guessing he is talking about Shea Lacey at United Quote
bluebruce Posted 50 minutes ago Posted 50 minutes ago 1 hour ago, Mercer said: Why Rovers? A short term deal, 'guaranteed' game time thereby gaining invaluable experience and becoming 'battle hardened' in a challenging and competitive league, we have something of a track record with promising young loan players (Elliott and Van Hecke to name but two) and as @islander200 points out, the parent club may prefer the young lad to be loaned to a club close to home for clear reasons. This would not be about money (loan fee, savings on wages etc) for the parent club but would be about hastening the development of a real young talent. Why not Rovers? We are in a relegation fight, one I expect we will lose. I don't want to be guaranteeing anybody game time unless they're already the real deal at this level. Quote
RoyWegerlesLeftToe Posted 41 minutes ago Posted 41 minutes ago 53 minutes ago, TheKitGuy said: I've a feeling we will be looking at someone like Chido Obi, Biancheri or Reigan Heskey Biancheri is on Uniques books, so can see it being him. The other interesting one is Charlie Gray from city (on Uniques books but is a defensive midfielder). Quote
jim mk2 Posted 13 minutes ago Posted 13 minutes ago 1 hour ago, joey_big_nose said: With the way the tv money is vastly expanding and the financial gap between Premier League and Championship widening its more about timing really. The resources to bridge the gap and growing year on year. There are a bunch of clubs who made it the mid to end 2010 and have managed to stick or yoyo (Brighton, Brentford, Bournemouth, Palace, Burnley, Sheff Utd, Wolves). But recent years the only new club in who has stuck a bit is Forest and they spent mega money. Will be interesting of Leeds and Sunderland can last. The Walkers sold out at exactly wrong time. Money coming into the Premier League was about to explode, and we were one of the clubs riding the gravy train. They prided themselves on being business people but they got it badly wrong Quote
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