v Sheffield Wednesday (h) - 06/12/25

[rigger]

8 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

Failing to fulfill fixtures is misconduct - guilt is assumed unless the club can demonstrate they couldn’t have foreseen or reasonably have anticipated and remedied (using best endeavours) the issue prior to the event.

I think the club would struggle to argue this given it’s the second time it’s happened in a few months.

I guess their argument would be ‘haven’t you seen our new pipe thingy and our big sponge thingies’.

Should the EFL not be convinced by this argument, one of the disciplinary options is for the club to be ordered to carry out ‘a specific performance’.

In this situation, I can’t see how such a performance wouldn’t be something along the lines of ‘sort your fucking drains out you muppets’.

Misconduct is such a broad offence that the available punishments go as far as expulsion from the league - I think that one might be a bit too extreme though!!

What happened to Coventry when they couldn't fulfill their home fixtures, when their pitch had cut up because they allowed a rugby game to be played on it ? 

[chaddyrovers]

2 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

They werent, the pitch wasnt quite as bad as v Ipswich but was still unplayable and would have got worse.

Well that your opinion RF99. I have told you mine and yesterday's pitch conditions were worse than Ipswich and were happening sooner in the game. 

2 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

After the Ipswich game, you echoed the club that there was nothing we could do and it wasnt our fault. It was bullshit at the time but a second abandonment seems to have turned those defending the club last time into criticising the club which is at least one small positive. The club and the owners deserve the blame so fair play for not sticking to your guns.

Same old BORING lines of Echoed the club doesnt help your point. Maybe try accepting my opinions. I stand by Ipswich game abandonment comments. 

[wilsdenrover]

8 minutes ago, rigger said:

What happened to Coventry when they couldn't fulfill their home fixtures, when their pitch had cut up because they allowed a rugby game to be played on it ? 

Suspended 5 point deduction and having to pay compensation to their affected opponents:

https://www.efl.com/contentassets/2360941774f04705bf2c384b511bca04/221219--efl-v-coventry-city--agreed-decision--ratified.pdf

[M_B]

Said last time, if the problem is the actual drain into the river not being able to get rid of the water quickly enough, then add more outlets and/or  intercept the drain, dig a sump and pump it over the top into the river.

 

[aletheia]

10 hours ago, ... said:

we played in worse....

Actually, I don't think it is worse.

First, the ball does bounce in the clip and travel reasonably well even though the pitch looks horrendous (as did many in those days.)

[RevidgeBlue]

45 minutes ago, LDRover said:

Shithouse Nixon on his galloping steed right on cue.

If this fat tub of shite isn't on the Venky payroll I'm a brain surgeon.

That might have been his intention but not really.

His "galloping steed" is a boney old nag fit for the knackers yard if he thinks only 60% efficiency on the drainage is acceptable.

Surely that's the whole problem rather than the solution or being acceptable?

[wilsdenrover]

1 minute ago, RevidgeBlue said:

That might have been his intention but not really.

His "galloping steed" is a boney old nag fit for the knackers yard if he thinks only 60% efficiency on the drainage is acceptable.

Surely that's the whole problem rather than the solution or being acceptable?

Can’t see that referenced where I’d expect it to be in the regulations.

Thats why I’ve asked Chaddy to ask Nicko…

[B16Rover]

Is there a condensed timeline of the drainage issues/lack of action? Fitted in the late 80s, Waggots has mentioned he got a quote refused at board level to repair.  After the first postponement we've fitted a PVC pipe into the river, had another postponement and are now on course for a third Vs Oxford?  Anything im missing? What have united utilities said?

[RevidgeBlue]

2 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

Thats why I’ve asked Chaddy to ask Nicko…

Good luck to either of you getting an answer on that.

Edited December 7, 2025 by RevidgeBlue

[chaddyrovers]

40 minutes ago, Devon Rover said:

Why would Hasta ask Nixon what you think?

The questions raised asking your opinion are valid and it would be interesting to know what you think on this (rather than just passing on other people's views without critically appraising them).

Think on what? 

If on abandonment of the game. Posted them last night post game 

[wilsdenrover]

2 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Good luck to either of you getting an answer on that.

I’ve decided not to hold my breath on this one. 😁😁

[Hasta]

https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/blackburn-rovers-sheffield-wednesday-5432460

Don't know if that got linked last night on here but good article.

Edited December 7, 2025 by Hasta

[Penwortham Blue]

48 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

ST holders will get in for free.

They do indeed but I don’t really understand why there is differentiation between ST and folk who paid for match attendance. Both have already paid for the fixture.

[Hasta]

37 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Well that your opinion RF99. I have told you mine and yesterday's pitch conditions were worse than Ipswich

How can you look at this video, and then say yesterday's conditions were worse than this with a straight face.

 

Edited December 7, 2025 by Hasta

[LDRover]

18 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

That might have been his intention but not really.

His "galloping steed" is a boney old nag fit for the knackers yard if he thinks only 60% efficiency on the drainage is acceptable.

Surely that's the whole problem rather than the solution or being acceptable?

Agreed.

I know if I reported on a 60% yield at work I'd have some pretty stern questions to answer.

[wilsdenrover]

Just now, Penwortham Blue said:

They do indeed but I don’t really understand why there is differentiation between ST and folk who paid for match attendance. Both have already paid for the fixture.

They’ll say they are adhering to the two different terms and conditions of the tickets.

Never do more than they have to this lot (and often not even that).

[aletheia]

 https://www.efl.com ›  documents  ›  efl-handbook.pdf 

 

Ground Maintenance 2.1 The Club is to be responsible for the maintenance of the pitch and for the general maintenance of the ground, including (but not limited to) ground safety. The Club must ensure that adequate arrangements are in place to maintain its pitch in good order, as required under Regulation 13. 

28.4 Each Club shall take all reasonable steps to maintain its pitch in good order. The League may require a Club to take such steps as it shall specify if not satisfied that an adequate standard of pitch is being maintained, including but not limited to The League commissioning an independent report on the state of the pitch by a Club, the cost of such independent report to be borne by the Club concerned. 

Guidance

Both the referee and away team manager mark the condition of the home pitch. Should a Club’s average pitch mark fall below 3, The League will write to the Club requesting observations on why their pitch has deteriorated and what remedial measures will be undertaken to ensure that the pitch improves.

28.9 Each Home Club shall provide full pitch frost covers and/or under soil heating (the specification of which shall meet the reasonable satisfaction of The League) which shall be operated to the extent necessary to procure, so far as it is reasonably possible, that the pitch is playable on the occasion of each match. A breach of this requirement which results in the postponement or abandonment of a match shall be dealt with in accordance with Regulation 32, and not Regulation 8.4. 

29 Postponements, Abandonments and Re-Arrangements 29.1 In the event of a fixture postponement no matter the cause, the League will decide the new date on which the fixture is to be played following consultation with both Clubs. 

Guidance

It is not permissible for a club to make a decision to postpone a match and in the first instance Clubs should contact the Football Services Department for advice. The full guidance document is available here.

Re-dating of Postponed Fixtures. Detailed guidance is available for Clubs here, however in summary:

•                    The League will ask the Clubs to mutually agree a date in the first instance;

•                    if Clubs are unable to mutually agree a date, The League will set the date of the fixture and will take into account the following considerations: the provisions of the relevant League policy (as updated from time to time);

•                    the preferred dates of both the Home and Away Club and the rationale for preferences;

•                    Home and Away fixtures either side of the proposed dates;

•                    the ability to date already existing and further potential postponed fixtures;

•                    any interference or possible clashes with Cup fixtures, replays or international fixtures;

•                    any Police and SAG views/requirements; and

•                    any pairing issues.

•                    Notwithstanding the provisions of Regulation 29.1, The League reserves the right at any time to reschedule a League match after consultation with and consideration of representations from the Clubs involved.

•        Each Club must ensure that both: 29.3.1 its home ground (being the ground that is registered in accordance with Regulation 13.5); and

•        29.3.2 any Registered Players,  

 

•                    Every Club must have a publicly stated policy regarding ticket refunds or other arrangements for abandoned matches.

remain available to the Club during the period of four days commencing with the day after the day of the Club’s last fixture in the League Competition (including play off matches) so as to enable the fulfilment of any fixtures (in full or in part) ordered by The League to be played after the end of the Season (if any).

Guidance 56

[RevidgeBlue]

15 hours ago, den said:

Look at the device.

 

So if that's what was referred to by Lynsey Talbot at the Fans Forum, a "drainage sleeve" is actually a second hand exhaust off a Mk 1 Escort?

Looks expensive.

🙄

[Rogerb]

Perhaps for the benefit of transparency the club could make public the drainage report confirming 60% is adequate.

[Rogerb]

The drainage sleeve looks like something James May cooked up in his shed.

[chaddyrovers]

50 minutes ago, Hasta said:

How can you look at this video, and then say yesterday's conditions were worse than this with a straight face.

 

 

Cos its my opinion and I stand by that. Ipswich abandonment was later this was 20 mins sooner and only getting worse. The pitch from start the second half looked very wet and drainage not working properly. 

Also I dont need your video, I was at the game and you could see it getting worse and worse. 

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

.....bought from del boy Trotter!

[RevidgeBlue]

3 minutes ago, Rogerb said:

The drainage sleeve looks like something James May cooked up in his shed.

I can't actually believe that whatever is shown in the photo is what Lynsey Talbot was referring to in the FF.

Surely not even this lot would have the front to pass that off as any form of permanent solution?

[Exiled_Rover]

2 hours ago, Penwortham Blue said:

I think they should go further still, free entry to all Wednesday fans who travelled and to all Rovers ST holders and walks on who attended and £5 charge for anyone else.

I'd like the two afternoons back I've spent travelling to and watching two games get abandoned please.

What's the monetary value of that?

[neophox]

I think it's better we play all our games in away soil. We would probably smash the league then 😁