Boycott Or Not?

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4 minutes ago, Polky said:

 

Petty. 

[rovers11]

Interesting that they've released a statement about it. They normally dismiss these kinds of things as a "minority of fans". The fact they've released a statement confirms they are worried and ticket sales for the game are very low. Even the most patient of fans have lost patience. Or maybe it's more because no one can face watching De Neve, Henriksson, et al anymore.

The only downside is that it gives Val a ready made excuse when we lose the game. He'll blame the lack of fans in the ground for us losing.

[RevidgeBlue]

12 minutes ago, rovers11 said:

Interesting that they've released a statement about it. 

Not really a genuine statement though is it?

Generic AI inspired waffle which roughly translates as:

"We know there's a boycott planned for Saturday and we really couldn't give a **** but we have to pay lip service to it and say something"

Bit naughty to hint there might be trouble or a nasty atmosphere. Ironically that might persuade a few more to stay away.

Edited 2 hours ago by RevidgeBlue

[Tomphil2]

17 minutes ago, Polky said:

 

You reap what you sow and this has been coming for 15 years it isn't a knee jerk to a run of bad results.

The size of the crowd will make no difference whatsoever to the result and the clowns in charge want as many as possible in there so they can spin it to their bosses as a storm in a tea cup...again.

[davulsukur]

45 minutes ago, Polky said:

 

I guess the ticket sales for the Watford game are in the toilet.

They're clearly rattled but at the same time trying to sow division in the fanbase.

We lose and it's "Well, the boys didn't get the backing from the fans"

Win and it's "The real fans were excellent and backed the lads through thick and thin"

For most people, these words are totally meaningless but it will get the happy clappers chirping again.

Edited 2 hours ago by davulsukur

[wilsdenrover]

They seem worried. 

[wilsdenrover]

How many more fans will it take to make up for the players Ismael says we can’t compete without?? 🤔

[cesus]

"The club remains committed to work constructively with supporters and values their passion". That is absolute horse shit and should have been called out by Radio Lancs. They have been sent an open letter by multiple supporters groups and have ignored it, that is a fact. So they are clearly not committed to working with supporters at all, and Radio Lancs are a vessel peddling questionable statements.

[John]

Assume there will be a response to the club’s (pathetic) statement. It raises serious questions about the continued silence on key issues. The ongoing lack of respect for the fans, combined with the club’s arrogance and contempt, is simply not acceptable.

[rovers11]

52 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Not really a genuine statement though is it?

Generic AI inspired waffle which roughly translates as:

"We know there's a boycott planned for Saturday and we really couldn't give a **** but we have to pay lip service to it and say something"

Bit naughty to hint there might be trouble or a nasty atmosphere. Ironically that might persuade a few more to stay away.

The words in the statement are insignificant. The fact they felt the need to even make a statement is telling.

[dallydally]

Pathetic "statement". They have NO idea how to run a successful  football club!

[dallydally]

55 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said:

You reap what you sow and this has been coming for 15 years it isn't a knee jerk to a run of bad results.

The size of the crowd will make no difference whatsoever to the result and the clowns in charge want as many as possible in there so they can spin it to their bosses as a storm in a tea cup...again.

Totally agree 

[RevidgeBlue]

3 minutes ago, rovers11 said:

The words in the statement are insignificant. The fact they felt the need to even make a statement is telling.

Id say it's the other way round.

I read nothing at all into them issuing a "statement" They have to put out a response of sorts otherwise it looks bad. It's whether the response is genuine and from the heart or offers any hope of improvement that is relevant from our point of view.

Imo it's just the usual meaningless platitudes and lip service. If anyone thinks they're genuinely worried, fair enough, Im not going to try and dissuade them.

If season ticket sales were to fall off a cliff, THEN I think they'd be worried and have to make a genuine effort.

It all has to start somewhere!

[M_B]

47 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

I guess the ticket sales for the Watford game are in the toilet.

They're clearly rattled but at the same time trying to sow division in the fanbase.

We lose and it's "Well, the boys didn't get the backing from the fans"

Win and it's "The real fans were excellent and backed the lads through thick and thin"

For most people, these words are totally meaningless but it will get the happy clappers chirping again.

That's some contradiction, just reading your second line and your last paragraph. 

[bigbrandjohn]

I understand and respect the need for us to make a statement. Believe me I do. I rather like what Wednesday fans did. Waited for 15 mins outside to make their point and then came in. 
whatever we feel, we desperately need the points tomorrow and giving Watford  a home crowd won’t help the players. If we lose and Portsmouth win at home Sunday then we are 4 points adrift with a game more played 
I think it is a foregone conclusion that no player of any worth is going to join us, especially with this unrest. 
We are damned if we do and damned if we don’t. 

[JHRover]

No statement on the club website or twitter page. So just that short generic rubbish they've sent to Radio Lancashire.

'Some supporters'

'Sections of the fanbase'

I don't think they do understand the number of people who have just had enough of it now. 

When they deliver League One, or even scrape Championship survival, their season ticket sales are going to take another hammering.

[wilsdenrover]

12 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Id say it's the other way round.

I read nothing at all into them issuing a "statement" They have to put out a response of sorts otherwise it looks bad. It's whether the response is genuine and from the heart or offers any hope of improvement that is relevant from our point of view.

Imo it's just the usual meaningless platitudes and lip service. If anyone thinks they're genuinely worried, fair enough, Im not going to try and dissuade them.

If season ticket sales were to fall off a cliff, THEN I think they'd be worried and have to make a genuine effort.

It all has to start somewhere!

They could have waited to see how the boycott went before commenting on it.

[Upside Down]

1 hour ago, Polky said:

 

Rattled.

[Hasta]

Why issue a statement to radio Lancashire? I presume radio lancs have asked for a response.

However if they are that sincere why not post it on your own twitter feed and website? Because it’s lip service as they know “no comment” looks bad.

[Dreams of 1995]

The fact they have acknowledged it is good. Those which opposed a boycott regularly told us that the club wouldn’t care

Now they are urging you not to follow it. They care. If you don’t show your face, it is a public display of “enough is enough”

If ever there was more proof in the pudding it is that statement. I urge all fans to boycott. It really will matter

[RevidgeBlue]

14 minutes ago, bigbrandjohn said:

I think it is a foregone conclusion that no player of any worth is going to join us, especially with this unrest. 

Nonsense. If a player has a straight choice between a Club at the top or one at the bottom on the same money then obviously he's usually going to choose the one at the top.

Otherwise pay them and they will come. The problem is we won't pay them. (The going rate)

[Dreams of 1995]

29 minutes ago, bigbrandjohn said:

I understand and respect the need for us to make a statement. Believe me I do. I rather like what Wednesday fans did. Waited for 15 mins outside to make their point and then came in. 
whatever we feel, we desperately need the points tomorrow and giving Watford  a home crowd won’t help the players. If we lose and Portsmouth win at home Sunday then we are 4 points adrift with a game more played 
I think it is a foregone conclusion that no player of any worth is going to join us, especially with this unrest. 
We are damned if we do and damned if we don’t. 

You seem to be leaning on the side of blaming the fans for the predicament the squad finds itself. I could not disagree more

Regardless of what fans are present at Watford, it is the 22 players on the field of play which decide the result

As fans we like to wax lyrical about the impact of the crowd but it really is a matter of muchness. The BBE is not going to be rocking if a boycott is cancelled; the football on show is dire, it is defensive in the first instance but it is neither exciting, quick or full of good moments. Ismael's football is turgid and drags other teams in to our quagmire. Second to this, Ewood has not rocked for a game against Watford in well, god knows

Players will not sign for us not because the fans are unhappy but because the club has a reputation for messing players around. They (the board, the owners) don't pay the going rate, the don't offer good contracts for renewal which rewards loyalty and above all else they don't show a respect for the club

I would say with the most amount of confidence as one could have that the fans will not decide this season. That was decided last summer - when the powers that be decimated our squad of talent and ripped apart a backroom staff with a degree of unnerving carelessness. You reap what you sow but unfortunately football brings with it collateral unlike any other business. It is the fans who suffer from the decisions of idiots. And we have a lot of idiots in charge

Edited 50 minutes ago by Dreams of 1995

[RevidgeBlue]

19 minutes ago, Dreams of 1995 said:

The fact they have acknowledged it is good. Those which opposed a boycott regularly told us that the club wouldn’t care

Now they are urging you not to follow it. They care. If you don’t show your face, it is a public display of “enough is enough”

If ever there was more proof in the pudding it is that statement. I urge all fans to boycott. It really will matter

Just for the avoidance of doubt, when I say that imo the Club aren't REALLY bothered at this stage that's not a criticism of the boycott, I view the boycott as a necessary and suitable first step of any protest effort. It's a comment on the Club's lack of good faith.

When I see not the usual meaningless soundbites about how committed they supposedly are, but a stellar last week of the transfer window and/or some positive action like VI getting potted, then I'll believe they're rattled.

In the meantime with crowds so low anyway Im not expecting miracles out of the boycott but if there is a noticeable reduction in the already pitiful crowds that would be an added bonus.

And like I've said if the boycott evolves organically into a collapse in ST sales I think that WILL rattle them greatly.

Edited 41 minutes ago by RevidgeBlue

[Mattyblue]

Players don’t give a toss. ‘Is the package decent/am I going to get a game?’ Is the start and end of it. 

Do you think Leicester will be getting turned down by players because large numbers of their fans boycotted their West Brom game?

Edited 42 minutes ago by Mattyblue

[RoverDom]

The owners have boycotted us for years. The owners have failed to support the club. Pasha and gestede have failed to support the team when they dismantled it and replaced players with dross. They failed to support JDT and Eustace on the brink of play offs. They failed to support the club when they pissed off and got rid of long standing, well liked staff. They failed to support the team when they stuck with val. 

However it's the fans boycotting one game that will send us down... yeah right.