Next Rovers manager

[DE.]

Rowett is, imo, the only option that is both sensible and realistic. If we have any hope of getting out of this mess we need somebody with a lot of experience at clubs with limited talent/budget, and who has a pragmatic, results-first mindset. 

There would be no guarantee of success in terms of keeping us in the division, as he has failed before, but he's also succeeded before - as recently as last season with Oxford. I see him as the best choice available as far as realistic appointments are concerned. 

Of course, it's shuffling the deck chairs on the proverbial titanic as long as Venky's are at the helm, but that's the best we can hope for until they leave. 

[Tricky]

 

13 minutes ago, islander200 said:

Nixon saying on bluesky that Rowett is meeting with the club today

[CrouchingNunhiddenCucumber]

17 minutes ago, islander200 said:

Nixon saying on bluesky that Rowett is meeting with the club today

Bloke has his head screwed on, so after meeting the two clowns he'll ask for guarantees they wont give and that will be that 

[RevidgeBlue]

4 minutes ago, Tricky said:

 

I can't decide whether you're a Rovers fan or a Dingle.

Nice dig at BRFCS and the coalition in the background BTW.

[lraC]

6 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

I can't decide whether you're a Rovers fan or a Dingle.

Nice dig at BRFCS and the coalition in the background BTW.

[simongarnerisgod]

18 minutes ago, CrouchingNunhiddenCucumber said:

Bloke has his head screwed on, so after meeting the two clowns he'll ask for guarantees they wont give and that will be that 

they`ll lie to him,promise him that he`ll get what he wants then appoint him,in the coming months poor rowett will realise he`s been duped and by next febuary he`ll be gone,rinse and repeat onto the next candidate

[RevidgeBlue]

2 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

they`ll lie to him,promise him that he`ll get what he wants then appoint him,in the coming months poor rowett will realise he`s been duped and by next febuary he`ll be gone,rinse and repeat onto the next candidate

That may well come to pass but in the meantime we HAVE to as a bare minimum stay up imo.

[Kjell]

Having witnessed how effective we are at bringing in our transfer 'targets', I fully expect us to fail in bringing in Rowett. It will be hard to convince him to sign a deal that is considerably worse than the one he had at Oxford... and then we turn our focus to fringe managers from substandard European leagues.

[Mattyblue]

Yeah the reason Rowett could be reticent are those negative fans.

[RevidgeBlue]

Just now, Mattyblue said:

Yeah the reason Rowett could be reticent are those negative fans.

Who presumably want exactly the same things as him.

A decent transfer/wage budget and for the team to be successful.

[sharpysharps86]

If Rowett has anything about him, he'll see right through Suhail and Gestede. He probably also knows he has a shot at the Leicester job as well, which despite their troubles is arguably a more appealing gig these days, and closer to where he is based.

I'll be really surprised if Rovers appoint someone this week.

[DE.]

17 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

they`ll lie to him,promise him that he`ll get what he wants then appoint him,in the coming months poor rowett will realise he`s been duped and by next febuary he`ll be gone,rinse and repeat onto the next candidate

In fairness IF Rowett did decide to join this circus, I think he's smart enough to know exactly what he's signing up for. Much like Eustace, I imagine he'd demand a release clause set at a reasonable limit. After JDT flat out told everyone that Venky's refused to let him leave when he requested to resign, any manager/head coach with a hint of preservation instinct would make this a non-negotiable demand in contract talks. 

Could also be why this all ends with Rowett refusing to join us. Waggott was the one who allowed Eustace the release clause, presumably, and I'm not convinced Pasha and Gestede would be willing to allow their 'authority' to be undermined by a demand of a reasonable minimum fee release clause. Especially after the petulance that was shown after Eustace left. 

[Blue&WhiteArmy]

Whether we believe what Nixon says or not, on his Patreon he thinks we’ll be speaking to three alternatives if Rowett says no.. have an awful feeling one will be Coleman, no idea who else is possibly on there list..

Really hoping they can get Rowett, I think it’s the most sensible choice considering we’re in massive trouble, really hope we know more by tomorrow/Tuesday too..

Sadly preparing myself for a Nixon exclusive tonight though.. “Rowett says no to Rovers”, at least then I can be pleasantly surprised if they do manage to pull it off and are able to persuade him. Big Big week.

 

[RevidgeBlue]

32 minutes ago, DE. said:

Could also be why this all ends with Rowett refusing to join us. Waggott was the one who allowed Eustace the release clause, presumably, and I'm not convinced Pasha and Gestede would be willing to allow their 'authority' to be undermined by a demand of a reasonable minimum fee release clause. Especially after the petulance that was shown after Eustace left. 

Pasha allowed Lambert a break clause in his contract back in the day.

Im not sure whether the potential problem is Rovers only want a deal until the end of the season. You'd have thought a break clause to allow everyone to take stock would be beneficial to both sides if we went down. 

If despite that everyone was happy with each other there's nothing stopping them extending or re-negotiating the deal. 

Edited 4 hours ago by RevidgeBlue

[alexanders]

What are the thoughts about Hurzeler, Lowe and Frank? 

[G Somerset Rover]

Failure to appoint a new guy well ahead of QPR would lend weight to the theory that they don’t give a flying one if we go down. 

I genuinely wouldn’t be surprised if it’s Johnson at the wheel come Saturday once again.

[alcd]

4 hours ago, CrouchingNunhiddenCucumber said:

Bloke has his head screwed on, so after meeting the two clowns he'll ask for guarantees they wont give and that will be that 

He won't be coming. Looks all set for Chris Coleman. 

[Proudtobeblue&white]

Why would anyone with half a brain come to this shit show. They have waited until the end of the transfer window, any new manager is limited to free agents and loans. Even if you give him/her £500,000, with a bonus doubling that, why? Hiding to nothing working with the two wastes of space and owners with their fingers in their ears. Rowett really would need to be desperate.

[JHRover]

It would be typical Rovers to have last year given Ismael a 3.5 year deal despite big question marks over his competence and ability to last more than 40 games anywhere, and then fail to get Rowett done due to only wanting to offer him a short term deal, this a guy who has proven himself to be a highly competent Championship manager.

I would be totally offended if I were Rowett and these clowns offered me a deal until May. Presumably they now know the mess we are in and the urgent serious need to get some know-how in the dugout but don't want Rowett longer term (because he will seek assurances, resources and influence, none of which the Venky stooges are willing to provide). No, come the summer they will want more of the same - Gestede selecting friendly agents' clients and offloading the precious little quality we have left. 

Someone like Rowett wouldn't stand for that so they will need someone else to oversee that 'phase' of the project.

I expect failure here - they aren't good at getting anything done let alone quickly and I think he will run a mile when he realises what they are planning. A shame because on paper he'd probably love the chance to sort Rovers out and build us up but the Regime doesn't want that as John Eustace will confirm. So it will be embarrassing if/when we fail to get a deal done for an unemployed coach who was last sacked by Oxford. I dread to think who they have as Plan B but suspect Coleman or a foreign coach willing to take a 3-4 month deal.

Edited 1 hour ago by JHRover

[Proudtobeblue&white]

4 minutes ago, alcd said:

He won't be coming. Looks all set for Chris Coleman. 

If so, the arse will have fallen out of the club, and we will be even more of a ghost town. He would fit right in for 30 pieces of silver.

[davulsukur]

13 minutes ago, alcd said:

He won't be coming. Looks all set for Chris Coleman. 

Could easily see Coleman being appointed ahead of Rowett, as he'll be the cheaper option

[Tomphil2]

I'm convinced Ismael had a 12 month break clause as well or he offered to go for a lower pay off, no way were these lot paying him off 2 years plus his assistant.

No way, otherwise why the 3.6 years unless it was whiffy.

An 18 month contract for Rowett with rolling on option would make sense but maybe not good enough for him.

[JHRover]

I think someone like Rowett would want to do a proper job - not just come in for 15 games and then leave again - that's not really a good reputation for someone his age to get. That's the sort of role Warnock carved out for himself in his late 60s and 70s - fine if you are coming out of retirement for a bit then stepping back again but if you are peak of your career you need to be more than just a few games here and there. 

Birmingham was an exception due to the Mowbray health situation.

More important than that will be the two stooges and their plans. They were incompatible with Eustace and I remain convinced that transfer failings in January played a significant part in Ismael's departure, so absolute minimum I expect he will seek some proper assurances about the summer transfer window, and the only way he's getting those is if there's been a recalibration / rethink at the top of the tree and Gestede is being sidelined, which certainly would be deserved and positive if it was, but I think unlikely given the cushy little gig the stooges have got going for themselves and their agent friends. They don't want outsiders upsetting that little arrangement.

[Tomphil2]

Yes Rowett like Lambert or Eustace will present them with his 3 year plan A and plan B.

They won;t like that though because V's don't do plans they do whims and they've already installed the 'planners' they want in Suhail/Owen and Gestede.

So it'll be 'Gary you come in to coach the team and be on the touchline whilst we take care of the rest'

 

[sharpysharps86]

1 hour ago, alexanders said:

What are the thoughts about Hurzeler, Lowe and Frank? 

Ones beyond crap, and the other two are managing Premier League clubs.