T4E Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 Just out off interest - did nobody else pick up on the comment from JW yesterday re the applications - it came across that it would appear they already had them before Souness's resignation - very strange don't you think? It did occur to me - quite how you would receive 20 postal applications for a job on the same day as it becomes available is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rover6 Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 Why you shouldn't wish for Strachan Alan Hansen is quite good on TV - doesn't make him a good manager. Who gives a flying fart if Strachan is humorous or comes up with memorable one-liners (Souey was more than capable at that). I want a manager who'll motivate the team, get results and play good football. Mark Hughes comes across as a complete dullard in interviews - but it's his management that's important not his blimin' TV persona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uxbridge rover Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 Nobody has mentioned David Platt yet ? If (as has been stated earlier) JW and the board are looking for an up and coming manager maybe he is the one . ps- not saying he is my choice but people who know him say his training methods are very good and he like to use youth . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greggyk Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 Peter Taylor absolutely ruined Leicester, bought a load of old crap, used appalling tactics and watched them sink out of sight! No way! agreed, No way Peter Taylor. And Dario Gradi has never worked with big players like we have and has no premiership experience. I know i am on my own on this, but I would like to see George Graham as manager. He would fix our defensive problems and he has done really well at every club he has managed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjs Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 Why you shouldn't wish for Strachan Alan Hansen is quite good on TV - doesn't make him a good manager. Who gives a flying fart if Strachan is humorous or comes up with memorable one-liners (Souey was more than capable at that). I want a manager who'll motivate the team, get results and play good football. Mark Hughes comes across as a complete dullard in interviews - but it's his management that's important not his blimin' TV persona. Is he Souness in disguise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 Advocat is 7/1 now on sky bet. At 8 this morning he was 15/1 and yesterday he was 28/1 Hughes is just saying he doesnt go from speculation and i think that he would take it if offered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjs Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 Nobody has mentioned David Platt yet ? If (as has been stated earlier) JW and the board are looking for an up and coming manager maybe he is the one . ps- not saying he is my choice but people who know him say his training methods are very good and he like to use youth . .. and his record with Forest and the u-21s is not very impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greggyk Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 Didnt Advocat have a fall out with Barry Ferguson at rangers?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
den Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 A lot of good reading in the LET A new manager in within a week or so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rover6 Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 (edited) no premiership experience. Nor did Dowie or Mourinho before now. You don't need Premiership experience, just like Stead didn't, to perform. You need talent. David Platt? Deserves as much consideration as Carlton Palmer. Nope, unless we want to waterfall down the leagues. Edited September 7, 2004 by rover6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hasta Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 (edited) With regards to the betfair situation, when looking at the market click on the name of the manager to get a graph on how much money has been traded on each manager and at what price. Now I've not looked since this morning (banned at work ) but compare the amount of money on Dick Advocat to the amount of money on Mark Hughes and Strachan. If people with inside knowledge of Advocats' appointment did know anything then they are hardly getting stuck in are they. If the next Newcastle manager market is still available to view look at the graph for Souness. Ignore the looky sod who had £3 on at 1000/1 for a moment. When his price started to crash multiple bets of well over a grand were placed. By early yesterday morning bets of around £20,000 were piling on Souness albeit at small odds. One report in a Newspaper or on a trustworthy site could bring people to put there fivers and tenners on any one manager. Apart from the top few there is not an awful lot of money around trying to lay the so called outsiders. This means that if 60 people put a tenner on on the basis of one Newspaper report then £600 has been chucked on and the price could drop quite rapidly giving the 66/1 into 25/1 syndrome. It very rarely means anything until significant bets are being layed. Edited September 7, 2004 by Hasta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tris Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 no premiership experience. Nor did Dowie or Mourinho before now. You don't need Premiership experience, just like Stead didn't, to perform. You need talent. David Platt? Deserves as much consideration as Carlton Palmer. Nope, unless we want to waterfall down the leagues. Listen Sturrock boy, your undisguised love for the bacon and egg munching former manager of Southampton renders your view on the next incumbent at Ewood null and void. Zip it. "You need talent" HA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 Agreed with hasts there. So far Hughes is the hot favourite. However i wouldnt be suprised if an outsider or maybe some1 unmentioned may appear alot more in the next few days. Keep your eye on advocat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greggyk Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 (edited) We are trying not to let any personal points of view play a part at this stage. We are very much keeping an open mind thats what JW has said. Does he mean Hoddle?? Also must add, I believe a local radio in either London or Blackburn are saying that Alan Curbishley is in talks with rovers. We are offering him a lot of money. Edited September 7, 2004 by greggyk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T4E Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 Listen Sturrock boy Who needs swear words?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 We are trying not to let any personal points of view play a part at this stage. We are very much keeping an open mind thats what JW has said. Does he mean Hoddle?? PLEASE Nooooooo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rover6 Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 no premiership experience. Nor did Dowie or Mourinho before now. You don't need Premiership experience, just like Stead didn't, to perform. You need talent. David Platt? Deserves as much consideration as Carlton Palmer. Nope, unless we want to waterfall down the leagues. Listen Sturrock boy, your undisguised love for the bacon and egg munching former manager of Southampton renders your view on the next incumbent at Ewood null and void. Zip it. "You need talent" HA Wait a minute, how many games did Sturrock get at Southampton? 13 was it? Won 5 Lost 6. At least I was able to highlight an up and coming manager that was ready for a bigger challenge. Ok, it didn't work out at Soton but it was hardly a absolute failure, in fact, you can't judge him on such a meagre number of matches. You stick to sitting on the fence and mocking people who have the fortitude and intelligence to pass a considered opinion. It only makes you look stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 I'm happy to wait and see who JW and the board decide is right for Rovers....except I shall have a real problem supporting Glenn Hoddle if he were ever to come to Ewod Park. I'd just like to make that clear to the Rovers from the start! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tris Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 You stick to sitting on the fence and mocking people who have fortitude and intelligence You're the only person on the end of any mocking so not guilty of the charge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brownie Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 With regards to the betfair situation, when looking at the market click on the name of the manager to get a graph on how much money has been traded on each manager and at what price. Now I've not looked since this morning (banned at work ) but compare the amount of money on Dick Advocat to the amount of money on Mark Hughes and Strachan. If people with inside knowledge of Advocats' appointment did know anything then they are hardly getting stuck in are they. If the next Newcastle manager market is still available to view look at the graph for Souness. Ignore the looky sod who had £3 on at 1000/1 for a moment. When his price started to crash multiple bets of well over a grand were placed. By early yesterday morning bets of around £20,000 were piling on Souness albeit at small odds. One report in a Newspaper or on a trustworthy site could bring people to put there fivers and tenners on any one manager. Apart from the top few there is not an awful lot of money around trying to lay the so called outsiders. This means that if 60 people put a tenner on on the basis of one Newspaper report then £600 has been chucked on and the price could drop quite rapidly giving the 66/1 into 25/1 syndrome. It very rarely means anything until significant bets are being layed. Advocaat now 8-1. You can only take what's avaliable, you can't crash in on Advocaat. Someone is taking every price that becomes available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brownie Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 With regards to the betfair situation, when looking at the market click on the name of the manager to get a graph on how much money has been traded on each manager and at what price. Now I've not looked since this morning (banned at work ) but compare the amount of money on Dick Advocat to the amount of money on Mark Hughes and Strachan. If people with inside knowledge of Advocats' appointment did know anything then they are hardly getting stuck in are they. If the next Newcastle manager market is still available to view look at the graph for Souness. Ignore the looky sod who had £3 on at 1000/1 for a moment. When his price started to crash multiple bets of well over a grand were placed. By early yesterday morning bets of around £20,000 were piling on Souness albeit at small odds. One report in a Newspaper or on a trustworthy site could bring people to put there fivers and tenners on any one manager. Apart from the top few there is not an awful lot of money around trying to lay the so called outsiders. This means that if 60 people put a tenner on on the basis of one Newspaper report then £600 has been chucked on and the price could drop quite rapidly giving the 66/1 into 25/1 syndrome. It very rarely means anything until significant bets are being layed. Advocaat now 8-1. You can only take what's avaliable, you can't crash in on Advocaat. Someone is taking every price that becomes available. Now 6-1 !!!!!!!!1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Nay Never Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 Personally i wouldn't mind Hughes or Ternent... Think it will be strachan though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 Personally, and I guess I'll get slated for this from some, I'd go for Joe Royle. He certainly has Premiership experience, has done a good job at Ipswich with minimal resources and has brought on the talents of young players like Bowditch, Bent and Westlake. I could see him doing a good job for us as he has with Ipswich (they lie 3rd in The Championship at the moment). However, if I remember correctly, at the time he was appointed at Ipswich he said it'd be his last managerial move, so maybe he's off limits. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parasyte Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 However, if I remember correctly, at the time he was appointed at Ipswich he said it'd be his last managerial move, so maybe he's off limits. You remember correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rover6 Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 I'm a bit disappointed to read that JW won't 'seek' managers out but consider the people who have contacted Rovers. Seems silly really because honest professionals like Hughes are hardly likely to undermine their employers and go to Rovers asking for the job. Or maybe they will...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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