Hasta

Some of your examples are a fail in technology, or a secondary factor not being accounted for. Monday nights was one of the worst ones I have seen where the VAR official has looked at a single incident and decided it is (or isn't) a foul judged on the laws of the game.

As I said I don't blame the ref on Saturday for the second yellow. He just needs other refs to make sure they follow suit in order to keep consistent to not make him look an idiot. The first booking we've not discussed. That's a joke as well. 😁

No it's not. It shows the player thinks it's a card and the ref disagrees (or agrees). I certainly don't look at it and think the ref has lost control depending on whether he gives a card or not. Now if the players start shouting at the ref, crowding the ref, or barging him, or forcing him to take a step back then that is different. Book them all day, even send them off. But for card waving where do you stop. If a player gets barged over in the box and a player turns round with his arms out an appeals for a penalty that's not between the two of them. If the ref then gives the penalty has he lost control? What if a player thinks it's a corner, appeals and starts taking the ball towards the corner flag? I get it's the now the rule, refs have to enforce it and players will stop doing it and all that. But I really see card waving on it's own as very low down the issues with the game. It's one of the least examples of disrespect towards officials. I'd rather referees were instructed / advised to get things under control that were not in line with the rules or dangerous than a lad sat on the floor laughing waving a card. For example, there have already been two instances this season where I have seen where a defender has barged a striker out of the way to let it go for a goal kick and the striker has collided with the advertisement board. Anywhere else on the pitch then it's a foul. In this case it's even dangerous as the player falling could bang their head on the boards surrounding. And yet it's ignored.

Fortunately for common sense, the head of referees and the PGMOL both disagree with you and say it was blatant.

I don't think it's necessarily the clubs involved . I think it's the time of the incident combined with the mentality of that particular official. But I'm just guessing obviously as I can't understand how someone trained for that role can get that so badly wrong when millions of couch potatoes who've never read a rule book in their life all clearly see it.

I honestly reckon if that happens in the United box in the first 10 minutes they give it. As it basically changes the final result of the game I think the VAR decides it's too big a call to make. I believe the VAR official has a slight bit of doubt about it, and rather than make the correct call he is decides it will be less controversial not to give it than give it.

Exactly this. At real speed it looked a penalty but nowadays too often the referees won't give it and rely on VAR to bail them out. It's like its less embarrassing to say "I didn't see it" than for it to be given, overturned and say "I saw it incorrectly"

He missed one in the pre-season games hence why he probably was taken off them.

What about verbally saying to the ref "That should be a booking". What about saying anything to the ref "That should be a foul" or "That should be a our throw". If the football authorities were officiating cricket then you for an lbw appeal you would have to turn around and say "Excuse me Mr Umpire but could I have your opinion on whether that was going to hit the stumps or not" If there's any aggression towards the referee then it should be a card. Any crowding around the referee it should be a card. But a simple gesture sat on the floor from 6 feet away to say "That should be a card" should not be a yellow. It certainly should not be a straight red. If it's all about setting an impression I'd be booking people for spitting and and clearing their nose on the pitch long before waving a card. BTW, in the context of the game it probably should have been a card. As it wasn't, it told us you can foul a man who is breaking past you towards the edge of your own box and get away with it, but kick the ball away 3 feet, wave a card or celebrate a goal and in the book you go.

Sky were told it’s not a penalty because “VAR want to leave as many decisions as possible to the on-field referee” 😂😂🤡🤡

I’m just shaking my head at that. If the keeper punches it up in the air, and a striker charges into him like that with his hands around his head and floors him of course it is a free kick. The ref says it’s just a coming together, but the wolves player isn’t even moving towards the goalkeeper. The goalkeeper just flies into him.

Currently thousands of Rotherham fans watching the Man U - Wolves game are screaming at the telly “How come Varane hasn’t been booked for that?”

And then we have the lowest amount of added on time we have seen so far this season. Coincidence?

I thought most of the comments were along the lines of “he’s having a shocker, take him off”. Which was true. There was only one post I recall saying that he was a was a waste of space in general. Unless I’ve missed some.

Why? If I’m playing and I get booked for tugging someone back, and then another player does it to me later I’m surely allowed to say to the ref “that should be a booking”. But I can’t wave a card? It pisses me off when they run aggressively at the ref doing it. But that’s the aggressive attitude. What that lad did today was nothing. He was sat on his arse (after being fouled and dumped there) and was laughing doing it.

Hugging the crowd after he scored.

The ref was correct but the law is an ass. That shouldn’t be the same punishment as pulling someone back breaking clear down the wing, or scything someone down. If he’d jumped up and ran to the ref aggressively then fine. But not sat laughing on the floor. The first booking is nonsense as well. You can score and run across a stand full of opposition fans goading them, but if you happen to touch one of your own fans in celebration you get booked. It massively saved us today, but it’s bollocks.

We’re 7th, outside the play offs on goal difference 🙄

It might be the new rules but until the soft sending off we were well and truly awful today. Then, like at Huddersfield last season, we were looking like scoring every attack. Frustrating we had 20 minutes to find a winner and missed a sackful of decent opportunities. I’d have snapped your hand off for a point at 2-0 though.

Apart from possibly the penalty and the open net that followed.

So? Arsenal play possession football too. Yet Saka cracked on in from outside the box earlier today. Why does possession football mean you can’t shoot? Also, our attacking players seem to take ages to decide who to pass to in the final third. It’s like we won’t play the quick incisive pass incase we lose it, so find the safer option once it becomes available. And yet in our defensive third we try to play first time, eye-of-a-needle incisive passing.

I know. You can guarantee if we are a goal down this will be the first game this season with the standard 4 or 5 minutes on the board.

2 championship goals conceded so far this season. Two fuck-ups in possession at the back.

No. When there’s a full set of fixturess, Which international media outlet would want to broadcast Rotherham V Blackburn?